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Ashley Simian

Gambling Taxes: Can I get taxes back when my losses exceed a jackpot?

Hi everyone, I hit a $3,800 jackpot earlier this year and they immediately withheld about $950 for taxes at the casino. The thing is, I'm pretty sure I've lost way more than I've won this year at gambling (not just this jackpot but overall). From what I understand, if my total losses exceed my total gambling winnings for the year, I shouldn't owe any taxes on the gambling income, right? So does that mean I'll get that $950 withholding back when I file? I'm confused about how to actually report this on my taxes. Do I need to provide documentation of all my gambling activities to the IRS to show my overall losses? And if so, what kind of documentation do they expect? I usually just use TurboTax, but I'm thinking I might need to hire a professional for this situation. Anyone dealt with this before?

Oliver Cheng

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Yes, you can potentially get those taxes back! Here's how it works: gambling winnings are reported as "Other Income" on your tax return (Schedule 1), but you can deduct your gambling losses as an itemized deduction on Schedule A up to the amount of your winnings. The catch is you must itemize your deductions rather than taking the standard deduction. So this only benefits you if your total itemized deductions (including gambling losses, mortgage interest, charitable donations, etc.) exceed your standard deduction ($13,850 for single filers in 2024). If you're already itemizing for other reasons, then definitely claim those gambling losses! You'll need to document your losses. Keep a gambling diary or log with dates, locations, types of gambling, people you gambled with, and amounts won/lost. Bank statements showing ATM withdrawals at casinos, casino reward cards that track play, and losing tickets/receipts all help substantiate your claims.

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Taylor To

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Thanks for explaining! One question - do I have to list each gambling session separately somewhere, or do I just total everything up for the year? And what about the W-2G form I received for the jackpot - do I need to attach that to something specific?

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Oliver Cheng

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You don't need to list each session separately on your tax return, just the total losses as an itemized deduction. However, you should keep detailed records of each session in case you're audited. Regarding your W-2G, you'll report the income shown on that form on Schedule 1 as "Other Income." The form itself will be electronically transmitted to the IRS by the casino, but keep your copy for your records. The withholding shown on the W-2G will be reported on your Form 1040 as federal income tax withheld, which counts toward your total tax payments for the year.

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Ella Cofer

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Kevin Bell

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Does it actually help you track your sessions too? I'm terrible at keeping records and basically just have a bunch of ATM receipts and some player's card statements. Can it make sense of that mess or do I need organized records already?

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I've seen a few of these tax tools but I'm always skeptical. How does it handle the itemized deduction threshold issue? Like if my standard deduction is higher anyway, does it tell you not to bother with the gambling loss deduction?

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Ella Cofer

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It doesn't track your gambling sessions in real-time, but it helps you organize what you have. You can upload those ATM receipts and player's card statements, and it helps categorize them into a proper gambling log format that the IRS accepts. It really helped me make sense of my scattered records. Yes, it absolutely analyzes whether itemizing makes sense for your situation! It compares your potential itemized deductions (including gambling losses) against your standard deduction and recommends the better option. In my case, it showed that even with my gambling losses, the standard deduction was still higher, but I still needed to report the winnings correctly.

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Felix Grigori

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Felicity Bud

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Wait, how is this even possible? The IRS wait times are insane. Is this some kind of premium line or something? I don't understand how a third party can get you through faster than calling directly?

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Max Reyes

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Sounds like a scam to me. Nobody can magically skip the IRS phone queue. And why would you need to talk to the IRS anyway when all this gambling tax info is available on their website? Seems like a waste of money when you could just google the rules.

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Felix Grigori

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Max Reyes

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One important thing nobody's mentioned - if you use a players club card at the casino, request a win/loss statement for the year! Most casinos will provide this, and it's considered pretty solid documentation by the IRS. I learned this the hard way after trying to piece together loss documentation from memory and random receipts. Also, don't forget that if your total itemized deductions (including your gambling losses) don't exceed the standard deduction, you still have to report the W-2G winnings as income, but you won't get any tax benefit from your losses. That's the frustrating part of gambling taxes - the IRS always knows about your big wins (via W-2G) but doesn't automatically know about your losses.

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Adrian Connor

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Do you know if those player card statements are accepted by themselves or do I still need other records? I have my card statement but it doesn't show EVERYTHING because sometimes I forget to use the card.

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Player card statements are good supporting documentation, but ideally you should have additional records too. The IRS wants to see a log or diary of all gambling sessions with dates, locations, amounts won/lost, and type of gambling. For the sessions where you didn't use your card, try to gather other evidence like ATM withdrawals at the casino, credit card statements, or even notes in your calendar. The more documentation you have, the better your position if you're questioned. Remember that player cards don't track table games very accurately, so those sessions especially need separate documentation.

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Aisha Jackson

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I see a lot of advice here but I'm confused about one thing... if I have $5000 in winnings (including a $3000 jackpot) but $7000 in losses for the year, do I still have to report the $5000 as income and then separately deduct $5000 in losses? Or can I just report the net loss of $2000? Does turbo tax handle this correctly?

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You MUST report the full $5000 as income on Schedule 1, then deduct up to $5000 as an itemized deduction on Schedule A. You can never deduct more than your winnings, and you can't just report the net amount. This is why gambling taxes can be unfair - you have to report all winnings but can only deduct losses if you itemize. TurboTax does handle this correctly if you follow the prompts carefully. It will ask about your W-2G, then separately ask about gambling losses on the itemized deductions section. Just make sure you're tracking both numbers separately.

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Something to keep in mind - even if you get your withholding back, you'll need to be prepared for potential scrutiny from the IRS if your gambling losses are substantial compared to your income. They sometimes flag returns where gambling losses seem unusually high relative to someone's financial situation. The key is having rock-solid documentation. Beyond what others have mentioned, I'd also recommend keeping photos of your losing tickets if possible, and if you play table games, try to get pit boss signatures on your session records when you have big losses. Some casinos will do this if you ask. One more tip: if you're planning to claim gambling losses this year, consider opening a separate bank account just for gambling funds next year. It makes tracking much cleaner and provides a clear paper trail of your gambling activity that's separate from your regular expenses.

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This is really helpful advice about documentation! I'm curious about the separate bank account idea - do you just deposit your gambling budget into that account and then only use those funds at casinos? And when you withdraw cash at casino ATMs, does that automatically create the paper trail you're talking about, or do you need to do something additional to track it properly? Also, regarding the pit boss signatures - is that something most casinos are willing to do, or do you have to ask at specific times? I've never thought to ask for that kind of documentation while playing.

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