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Has anyone mentioned quarterly estimated taxes yet? If ur making ANY profit with ur LLC, ur supposed to be paying taxes quarterly, not just at year end. I learned this the hard way and got hit with penalties my first year!!

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Natalie Chen

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This is a really good point. The IRS expects you to pay taxes as you earn income, not just once a year. If you expect to owe more than $1,000 in taxes for your business income, you should be making quarterly estimated tax payments.

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Just wanted to add something that might help with the quarterly tax situation - if your business had a loss last year (like yours did), you don't need to make quarterly payments for that year. But if you expect to be profitable in 2024, you'll want to start making estimated payments. The safe harbor rule is helpful too - if you pay at least 100% of what you owed last year (110% if your prior year AGI was over $150k), you won't get penalties even if you end up owing more. Since you had no business profit in 2023, your safe harbor amount would just be based on any other income you and your spouse had. Also, don't stress too much about the amendment process. I amended my return last year to add my LLC income and it was pretty straightforward through TurboTax. The key is just making sure you have all your business expenses properly categorized. Keep digital copies of everything - receipts, bank statements, platform fees from Etsy, etc. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable when you're clearly trying to comply and report everything correctly.

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Carmen Ruiz

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This is really helpful information! I'm just getting started with understanding all this tax stuff for my LLC. One quick question - when you say "safe harbor rule," does that mean I should base my 2024 quarterly payments on our 2023 total tax liability (from our joint return), or just on any business income we had in 2023? Since the LLC had a loss, I'm trying to figure out what amount to use for calculating those quarterly payments.

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Has anyone considered the Alternative Minimum Tax implications here? I'm not a tax expert, but I think large capital gains can sometimes trigger AMT, which might change the math on this decision.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Good point about considering broader tax implications. For capital gains specifically, AMT doesn't usually present a major concern as capital gains are taxed at the same rate under both regular tax and AMT systems. However, large capital gains can indirectly impact AMT by increasing your overall income, which might affect AMT exemptions and adjustments. This is especially true if you have other AMT preference items like state tax deductions or certain tax credits.

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Klaus Schmidt

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One additional consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet is the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT). If your modified adjusted gross income exceeds $200k (single) or $250k (married filing jointly), you'll owe an additional 3.8% tax on investment income, including capital gains. Realizing $675k in gains could potentially push you into NIIT territory if you weren't already there, which would add another layer to your tax calculation. This applies regardless of which state you're in since it's a federal tax. Also, consider whether you might benefit from tax-loss harvesting in your portfolio before the move. If you have any unrealized losses, you could realize those alongside some of your gains to reduce the overall tax impact while still achieving your goal of avoiding Georgia's state tax on the net gains. The timing strategy could work well, but make sure you're accounting for all the federal tax implications, not just the state tax savings.

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Has anyone tried calling Green Dot directly? I'm in the same situation but wondering if they can give status updates on pending transfers. The IRS says my refund was sent 6 days ago but still nothing in my account.

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Jay Lincoln

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I called Green Dot last year when this happened to me. They were actually surprisingly helpful. You need your SSN and the exact refund amount to verify your identity. They could see exactly when they received it from IRS and when they sent it to my bank. In my case, they had already sent it but my bank was holding it for 24 hours. Got it the next day.

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I completely understand your panic - I went through the exact same thing two years ago when I accidentally selected "pay fees with refund" without really thinking about it. My refund was $7,800 and I was terrified I'd lose it all. Here's what actually happened: The process took about 10 days total from when the IRS said "refund sent" to when I got my money. Green Dot received it from the IRS, deducted the TurboTax fees (around $120 in my case), and then transferred the remainder to my bank account. No issues at all. The key is to stay on top of tracking it. Use the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool religiously - check it every morning. Once it changes to "refund sent," start counting business days. If you don't see anything after 7 business days, that's when you should start making calls to TurboTax support. I know the horror stories online are scary, but remember that millions of people use this option every year without problems. The people who post online are usually the ones who had issues, not the vast majority who got their refunds normally. You're going to be fine - just keep monitoring and don't hesitate to contact support if needed.

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Mia Roberts

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Has anyone here actually been audited for their IRA conversions? I've been doing backdoor Roth for years but always worry I'm doing something wrong with the Form 8606.

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The Boss

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I was audited in 2022 specifically about my IRA conversions. The issue wasn't the backdoor strategy itself but that I had failed to file Form 8606 for one year, which messed up my basis tracking. Make sure you file that form EVERY year you make non-deductible contributions, even if you don't do a conversion that year!

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Mia Roberts

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That's really good to know! I'm going to double check all my past 8606 forms now. Did they make you pay penalties for the missed form or just correct the basis calculation?

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Your tax reporting breakdown looks correct! Just to reinforce what others have said - the key is maintaining accurate Form 8606 documentation for all your non-deductible contributions. One thing to double-check: make sure your brokerage statements clearly show the dates and amounts for each transaction. For your 2025 taxes, you'll want to verify that your 1099-R reflects the full $13,000 conversion amount. Sometimes brokerages split these into separate 1099-Rs if the conversions happened on different dates. Also, since you're doing this strategy regularly, consider setting up a simple spreadsheet to track your non-deductible basis year over year. It makes the Form 8606 preparation much easier and gives you a clear audit trail. The IRS wants to see consistent reporting, so having your own records beyond what the forms show can be really helpful if questions ever come up. Good luck with your tax filing!

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This is really helpful advice about tracking everything in a spreadsheet! I'm new to IRA conversions and feeling overwhelmed by all the documentation requirements. Quick question - when you mention that brokerages might split conversions into separate 1099-Rs, does that create any issues for tax reporting? Do you just add them together on Form 8606, or do they need to be reported separately somehow? Also, for someone just starting with this strategy, are there any common mistakes I should watch out for beyond the Form 8606 filing that everyone's mentioned?

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Carmen Reyes

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Just a heads up that Venmo payments over $600 are now being reported to the IRS anyway through 1099-K forms. So even if your employer doesn't send a 1099-NEC, Venmo might send you a 1099-K for all those payments. Either way the IRS will know about the income.

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Andre Moreau

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That's actually not happening this year! The IRS delayed the $600 1099-K reporting requirement again. The threshold is staying at $20,000 AND 200 transactions for 2024 tax filings. So most people getting paid through Venmo won't get a 1099-K unless they hit both those numbers.

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Freya Larsen

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Just to add some practical advice - make sure you're keeping detailed records of ALL your contractor expenses too! Since you're getting paid through Venmo and working as an independent contractor, you can deduct legitimate business expenses on Schedule C. Things like your home office space, internet bills, computer equipment, software subscriptions, travel for work, and even a portion of your phone bill can potentially be deducted. This can significantly reduce your taxable income and the self-employment taxes you'll owe. Also, don't forget you'll need to pay quarterly estimated taxes if you expect to owe $1,000 or more for the year. With $18,500 in contractor income, you'll likely owe both income tax and self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare). The IRS expects payments throughout the year, not just at filing time. Consider setting aside 25-30% of each payment you receive to cover your tax obligations. It's better to overpay slightly than get hit with underpayment penalties!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to being a contractor and had no idea about the quarterly tax payments. When you say 25-30% of each payment, does that include both federal and state taxes? I'm in California so I know state taxes can be pretty high. Also, is there a simple way to calculate what I should be setting aside, or should I just use that percentage as a rough estimate?

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Alana Willis

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Yes, that 25-30% should ideally cover both federal and state taxes! In California, you're looking at potentially high state income tax on top of federal taxes and self-employment tax. For a rough breakdown: federal income tax might be 12-22% depending on your total income, self-employment tax is 15.3%, and California state tax could be another 6-9%. So 30% might actually be on the conservative side for CA. For a more precise calculation, you can use the IRS Form 1040-ES worksheet or online calculators that factor in your state. The IRS also has a withholding calculator on their website. Since you've already earned $18,500, you might want to make a catch-up estimated payment soon if you haven't been setting money aside. The next quarterly deadline is usually January 15th for the previous quarter. Don't forget to track those business expenses @Freya mentioned - they can really help reduce that tax burden!

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