Eva, I completely understand your anxiety about the treaty termination - I went through something similar when I moved from the US to a non-treaty country about three years ago. The good news is that while it does add complexity, you definitely won't face the "double taxation nightmare" you're worried about. Here's what actually happens in practice: The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) is your primary shield - it's currently $126,500 for 2024 and applies regardless of treaty status. For a multi-year move like you're considering, you'll likely qualify under the bona fide residence test, which is often easier than tracking the 330-day physical presence requirement. For income above the FEIE threshold, the Foreign Tax Credit prevents true double taxation. Since Hungary has a 15% flat tax rate, you'll often end up owing the difference between Hungarian and US rates to the IRS, but not paying full tax to both countries. One strategic consideration: Hungary's cost of living is significantly lower than most US locations, so even if you face some additional tax complexity, your overall financial situation could still improve substantially. Plus, as an EU resident, you'd gain access to the entire European market for business opportunities. My advice: don't let tax considerations alone drive this major life decision. The tools to manage international taxation exist and work well - it's just a matter of understanding and implementing them properly. Consider consulting with an expat tax specialist who knows both systems before making your final decision. The move might actually work out better financially than staying in the US, even without the treaty protection!

Eva, I can definitely relate to your concerns about the treaty termination - it's natural to worry about potential double taxation when you hear that kind of news. But after reading through all the responses here, I think you're getting some really solid advice that should put your mind at ease. What strikes me most is how many people have successfully navigated similar situations in non-treaty countries. The combination of FEIE ($126,500 exclusion for 2024) plus Foreign Tax Credits for income above that threshold really does prevent the "nightmare" scenario you're worried about. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned much: consider the broader financial picture beyond just taxes. Hungary's significantly lower cost of living, access to excellent healthcare, and your ability to travel freely throughout the EU as a resident could provide substantial value that outweighs the additional tax complexity. If you're serious about this move, I'd suggest creating a simple spreadsheet comparing your total costs (including taxes, living expenses, healthcare, etc.) between staying in the US versus moving to Hungary. You might be surprised to find that even with some additional tax obligations, you could come out ahead financially while gaining a much better quality of life. The tools to manage international taxation are well-established and proven - don't let the fear of complexity prevent you from pursuing what sounds like an exciting opportunity!

As someone who recently went through a similar international move, I wanted to share some practical insights that might help with your planning. The domicile question is definitely nuanced, but the key thing to remember is that keeping your NYC apartment doesn't automatically mean you're maintaining US domicile - it's really about your overall life pattern and intent. Since you're moving your family to Singapore and keeping the apartment unfurnished, that actually supports establishing Singapore as your new domicile. A few practical tips from my experience: 1) Start documenting your Singapore ties immediately - open local bank accounts, get utility bills in your name, register with local authorities, etc. The earlier you start building this paper trail, the stronger your position. 2) Be strategic about your US ties. Things like maintaining your US driver's license or keeping extensive personal belongings in the NYC apartment could work against you. Consider what you truly need to keep vs. what might send mixed signals about your intent. 3) Track your physical presence meticulously. Even if you establish foreign domicile, spending too many days back in the US visiting your apartment could still trigger tax residency under other tests. 4) Since Singapore has no tax treaty with the US, you'll want to understand Singapore's tax residency rules too. You don't want to accidentally become a tax resident of both countries without proper planning for double taxation. The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion will likely be your best friend here, and the physical presence test (330 days abroad in any 12-month period) might be easier to meet initially than proving bona fide residence. Consider consulting with a tax professional before you move to set up the transition properly - it's much easier to plan ahead than to fix issues after the fact!

This is such a thorough discussion! As someone who recently completed a similar transition (moved to Switzerland while keeping a property in Boston), I wanted to add one more perspective that might be helpful. The IRS Publication 519 (U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens) actually has some excellent guidance on domicile determination that applies to citizens as well. It emphasizes that domicile is about your "fixed, permanent, and principal home" - the place you intend to return to even when absent. The key word here is "intent." Since you're planning to move your family to Singapore and keeping the NYC apartment unfurnished, you're actually creating a strong factual pattern for establishing Singapore domicile. The fact that you're not setting up the apartment as a ready-to-occupy residence works in your favor. One practical consideration I learned the hard way: if you do decide to visit your NYC apartment periodically, consider staying in hotels instead of the apartment itself during some visits. This helps reinforce that the apartment isn't functioning as your residence. I know it sounds counterintuitive when you own the property, but it's another data point that supports your position that Singapore is now your home. Also, don't forget about potential New York State tax implications. NY can be quite aggressive about claiming continued residency, especially for high-value NYC properties. Make sure you understand both federal and state requirements for establishing non-residency. The investment in proper tax planning upfront will definitely pay off - international tax issues only get more complicated the longer you wait to address them properly!

I'm in the exact same boat! Filed January 31st with cycle code 0405 and have been checking my transcript religiously. As a fellow gig worker (I do Uber), I totally understand the stress of waiting for that refund when you have car expenses piling up. Based on what everyone's saying about Thursday updates, I'm really hoping we both see movement this week. The uncertainty is the worst part - at least now I know to focus my checking on Thursday mornings instead of refreshing constantly throughout the week. Hang in there!

I feel your pain on this one! I'm also a gig worker (Instacart) and filed around the same time with cycle code 0405. What I've learned from tracking this obsessively is that the IRS processes returns in batches, and our cycle means we're in the Thursday update group. I've been checking every Thursday morning around 3-4 AM Eastern and finally saw movement last Thursday - got my 846 refund code with a deposit date of this Wednesday. The key thing that helped my sanity was understanding that 21 days is just an estimate, not a guarantee. With all the early filers this year, they're running a bit behind normal timelines. Since you filed January 29th, you should definitely see something soon. Try to check just once on Thursday mornings instead of daily - it really does help with the stress. Your transcript will update when it updates, and checking more often won't make it happen faster. Hang in there!

One important thing to note - if your state taxes retirement distributions differently than the federal government, you might need to make adjustments on your state return. For example, some states exempt retirement income up to certain limits, while others fully tax it regardless of whether it was taxed federally. Check your state's department of revenue website for specific guidance on Roth conversions. Most states have publications that explain their treatment of retirement distributions, including Roth conversions. That's the most reliable source rather than hoping a tax preparer gets it right.

I had a very similar situation with my 2024 Roth conversion! My 1099-R also showed zeros in boxes 14 and 16, which initially made me think I didn't need to report anything to my state. After doing some research and calling my state tax department, I learned that you definitely need to report the conversion amount even when those boxes are blank. The blank boxes just mean no state taxes were withheld at the time of conversion - it doesn't mean the transaction isn't reportable. What helped me was looking at my state's specific instructions for retirement distributions. Most states have you report the same amount that's in box 1 or box 2 of your 1099-R (depending on your state's rules). Since your traditional IRA had only after-tax contributions and you have Form 8606 documentation, you shouldn't owe additional state tax on the conversion, but the reporting is still required. I'd recommend checking your state's tax department website for their specific guidance on retirement distributions and Roth conversions. Every state handles these differently, so getting the official guidance for your specific state is the safest approach.

I wonder if it's worth trying a different tax software? I started with TurboTax and it said I had to mail my Oregon return, but when I tried FreeTaxUSA with the exact same information, it let me e-file with no problems. Could be worth the time to input your info elsewhere if you really want to avoid mailing.

Another thing to check is whether you're filing early in the tax season. I had this exact problem with Michigan a couple years ago - filed in late January and was forced to mail my return even though my situation was straightforward. When I called the state tax department, they explained that they sometimes disable e-filing for certain forms or situations at the very beginning of tax season while they're still testing their systems. The rep suggested I wait until mid-February and try again. Sure enough, when I re-submitted the same return information a few weeks later, it went through electronically with no issues. Might be worth holding off for a couple weeks if you filed very early, especially since you mentioned this hasn't been a problem in previous years.