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1099-R State Taxes Withheld for Roth Conversion - Reporting Requirements?

Just got my 1099-R for my 2024 Roth conversion and I'm confused about state reporting. I converted from my traditional IRA to my Roth IRA last year, and the traditional IRA only had after-tax contributions (all tracked on Form 8606). Before doing the conversion, I had rolled the pre-tax growth portion to my employer's 401k plan (got a separate 1099-R for that transaction). Looking at the 1099-R for the Roth conversion now, and box 14 (state tax withheld) and box 16 (state distribution) are both showing zero/blank. Box 15 does show my state and the state ID number though. My question is: do I still need to report the full conversion amount from box 2 to my state on my tax return even though the 1099-R shows nothing in boxes 14 and 16? I'm worried about getting this wrong and having my state come after me later. Any help would be appreciated!

This is actually a common question with Roth conversions. The short answer is that most states will want you to report the conversion, even if there were no state taxes withheld. The 1099-R is primarily showing you that no state taxes were withheld at the time of the conversion, but that doesn't mean the transaction isn't reportable to your state. Since your traditional IRA contributions were after-tax (non-deductible), you likely won't owe additional tax on the conversion amount, but the transaction itself still needs to be reported. Your state tax return will typically have sections that mirror the federal return where you'll report this conversion. You'll need to include the 1099-R information, and your state will determine if any tax is due based on your state's specific rules for retirement distributions and conversions.

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Thanks for the response! That makes sense, but I'm still a bit confused. If my contributions were all after-tax and I already paid tax on that money years ago, would my state try to tax me again on the same money? And what exactly should I put for the state distribution amount since box 16 is blank?

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You generally shouldn't be double-taxed on the same money. Most states follow the federal tax treatment where you don't pay tax again on after-tax contributions. Your Form 8606 helps establish your tax basis to prevent double taxation. For the state distribution amount, you would typically report the same amount that's in Box 2 of your 1099-R (the taxable amount). If Box 16 is blank, states usually default to using the federal amount. Just make sure to attach a copy of your Form 8606 to your state return if required, as this documents your after-tax basis.

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How does this actually work? Do you just upload your 1099-R and it tells you what to do? I've got a similar situation but with a 401k to Roth IRA conversion and I'm totally lost on the state reporting part.

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. Does it actually give you state-specific guidance? Because I know different states handle retirement distributions differently (some states don't tax retirement income at all, while others fully tax it).

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You upload your tax documents and it analyzes them right away. It breaks down exactly what each box means and gives you state-specific guidance. The system recognized my 1099-R was for a Roth conversion and explained the different reporting requirements. Yes, it definitely provides state-specific information. That was actually the most helpful part for me. It flagged that my state has different rules than federal for certain types of retirement distributions and explained exactly how to report it on my state return. It covers all 50 states and their different approaches to retirement income taxation.

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I was initially skeptical about using an AI tool for something as specific as Roth conversion state tax issues, but I gave https://taxr.ai a try after seeing it mentioned here. Honestly surprised by how helpful it was! I uploaded my 1099-R forms from a similar Roth conversion situation, and it immediately identified that my state (California) requires reporting the gross distribution even though no state tax was withheld. It even explained which state form lines to use and how to properly document the non-taxable portion. The state-specific guidance was spot on - even identified a special schedule my state requires for certain retirement transactions that my regular tax software didn't flag.

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If you're still having trouble with figuring out the state tax part of your Roth conversion, you might want to try calling the state tax department directly. I tried that route last year with a similar issue and spent HOURS trying to get through to someone who could actually help. I eventually discovered https://claimyr.com which got me connected to my state tax agency in about 20 minutes instead of the typical 2+ hour wait. There's a demo video of how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c that explains the process. Basically they wait on hold for you and call when an agent picks up. For something as specific as state tax treatment of Roth conversions with zero state withholding, talking to someone who knows your state's exact rules might be the safest bet.

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Wait, so you pay someone else to wait on hold for you? How does that even work? Wouldn't the IRS or state tax department just hang up when they realize it's not you who's been waiting?

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I don't know about this. Sounds like a way to jump the line while everyone else waits. Plus how would the tax agent even know they're talking to the right person if you weren't the one who called initially? I doubt state tax departments would be okay with this.

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They don't actually talk to the agent for you. The service waits on hold in your place, and when an agent comes on the line, you get a call to connect you directly with that agent. You do all the talking yourself. It's not about jumping any lines - you're still in the same queue as everyone else. The difference is you don't have to personally sit there listening to hold music for hours. The system just alerts you when it's your turn and connects you. The tax departments don't care because you're the one who ends up talking to them.

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I was very skeptical about using a hold-waiting service for tax issues, but I tried Claimyr last week when I needed to talk to my state tax department about a Roth conversion reporting issue similar to yours. I was impressed! I had expected it might be problematic or that the state would refuse to talk to me, but it worked exactly as advertised. I got a call back when an agent was on the line (saved me sitting on hold for 1.5 hours according to their time estimate), and I was able to ask my specific questions about reporting Roth conversions with no state withholding. The agent confirmed I needed to report the distribution even with zeros in boxes 14 and 16, and explained which specific form to use for my state. Honestly wish I'd known about this service years ago for all those wasted hours on hold!

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I just wanted to add that I had this exact same situation last year. Roth conversion from tIRA with only after-tax contributions, and boxes 14 and 16 were blank on my 1099-R. My accountant explained that the financial institution that processed your conversion isn't responsible for determining your state tax liability - they just report whether they withheld any state taxes (which they didn't in your case). You still need to report the distribution to your state, but since it was all after-tax contributions, you likely won't owe additional state tax on it. Just make sure you have your Form 8606 history to prove those were after-tax contributions if you ever get audited.

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That's super helpful! Did you just put the same amount from box 2 on your state return even though box 16 was blank? And did you have to file any special forms with your state return?

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Yes, I used the same amount from box 2 on my state return. Most state forms are designed to pull numbers directly from your federal return anyway. I didn't need any special state forms, but I did include a copy of my Form 8606 with my state return to document the non-deductible contributions. My state doesn't have its own version of Form 8606, so they rely on the federal form. It might be different in your state though, so you might want to check your state's tax department website for any specific forms related to retirement distributions.

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Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting Roth conversions with blank state distribution boxes? Does it handle this situation correctly or do I need to override something?

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I used TurboTax last year for this exact scenario. It correctly handled the state portion when I entered the 1099-R information. The software asked if the distribution was reported to my state, and I selected "yes" even though box 16 was blank. It then properly reported it on my state return without taxing the after-tax portion. Just make sure your 8606 history is accurate in the software too.

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One important thing to note - if your state taxes retirement distributions differently than the federal government, you might need to make adjustments on your state return. For example, some states exempt retirement income up to certain limits, while others fully tax it regardless of whether it was taxed federally. Check your state's department of revenue website for specific guidance on Roth conversions. Most states have publications that explain their treatment of retirement distributions, including Roth conversions. That's the most reliable source rather than hoping a tax preparer gets it right.

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I had a very similar situation with my 2024 Roth conversion! My 1099-R also showed zeros in boxes 14 and 16, which initially made me think I didn't need to report anything to my state. After doing some research and calling my state tax department, I learned that you definitely need to report the conversion amount even when those boxes are blank. The blank boxes just mean no state taxes were withheld at the time of conversion - it doesn't mean the transaction isn't reportable. What helped me was looking at my state's specific instructions for retirement distributions. Most states have you report the same amount that's in box 1 or box 2 of your 1099-R (depending on your state's rules). Since your traditional IRA had only after-tax contributions and you have Form 8606 documentation, you shouldn't owe additional state tax on the conversion, but the reporting is still required. I'd recommend checking your state's tax department website for their specific guidance on retirement distributions and Roth conversions. Every state handles these differently, so getting the official guidance for your specific state is the safest approach.

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Thank you for sharing your experience! This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. I was getting worried that I might be missing something important since those boxes were blank. Your point about checking the state-specific guidance is spot on - I've been looking at general information but haven't dug into my state's specific rules yet. Did you find that your state's website had clear instructions about Roth conversions specifically, or was it more general retirement distribution guidance that you had to interpret? Also, when you called your state tax department, were you able to get through quickly or did you have to wait on hold for a long time? I'm debating whether to try calling them directly or just follow the general reporting guidance.

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My state's website had a dedicated section for retirement distributions that included specific examples for Roth conversions, which was really helpful. They even had a FAQ that addressed the exact scenario of blank state withholding boxes on 1099-Rs for conversions. As for calling the state tax department - I got lucky and only waited about 45 minutes, but I called early in the morning on a Tuesday. I've heard from others that wait times can be 2+ hours during busy periods. If you do decide to call, I'd suggest trying early morning or late afternoon on weekdays to avoid peak times. Honestly, if your state's website has clear guidance (like mine did), you might not even need to call. The key things to look for are their instructions on reporting retirement distributions and whether they have any special treatment for after-tax conversions. Most states will want you to report the full conversion amount but won't tax the portion that represents your after-tax contributions.

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My state's website had a specific section on retirement distributions that included Roth conversions, though it wasn't super detailed. The general guidance was helpful but I still had questions about the specifics of my situation. As for calling the state tax department - I actually used one of those hold-waiting services that was mentioned earlier in this thread (Claimyr) because I didn't want to sit on hold for hours. It worked great and I got connected to an agent in about 30 minutes instead of the 2+ hour wait time they quoted when I first called. The agent was able to confirm exactly how to report my conversion and which forms I needed. If you do decide to call, I'd definitely recommend using a service like that to avoid the long hold times. The peace of mind from talking to an actual state tax expert was worth it for me, especially since Roth conversion reporting can vary so much between states.

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My state's website actually had pretty detailed guidance specifically about Roth conversions, but it was buried in their retirement income publication rather than being prominently featured. I had to search through several PDF documents to find the relevant sections. As for calling the state tax department - I waited on hold for about 90 minutes before getting through to someone who could help. It was frustrating, but the agent I spoke with was very knowledgeable and walked me through exactly how to report the conversion on my state return. She confirmed that even with blank boxes 14 and 16, the conversion amount still needed to be reported using the amount from box 2. If you decide to call, I'd recommend having your 1099-R and Form 8606 handy, along with any specific questions written down. The agent was able to give me state-specific guidance that I couldn't find anywhere online. Given what some others mentioned about services that wait on hold for you, that might be worth considering if you don't want to spend the time waiting yourself.

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My state's website had pretty general retirement distribution guidance, but it did mention Roth conversions specifically in their FAQ section. The key thing I learned is that most states default to using the federal tax treatment unless they have specific exceptions. As for calling the state tax department - I actually had a terrible experience with the wait times! I spent over 2 hours on hold the first time I tried, and then got disconnected. That's actually why I was interested when someone mentioned that Claimyr service earlier in this thread - wish I had known about it when I was dealing with this issue. If you do decide to call, I'd recommend trying early in the morning right when they open, or late in the afternoon. Mid-morning and lunch time seemed to have the worst wait times. But honestly, if you have clear documentation with your Form 8606 showing the after-tax basis, following the general reporting guidance on your state's website should be sufficient. The main thing is just making sure you report the distribution amount even though no state taxes were withheld. Better to report it and owe nothing than to not report it and have questions later!

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