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Isabella Russo

Help with 1099-R for Roth 401k to Roth IRA Rollover where employer made Traditional contributions

I recently moved my Roth 401k from my previous job to a Roth IRA in 2024, but I'm completely stuck on how to report this correctly. The complication is that my employer made contributions to my 401k as traditional (pre-tax) money, not Roth. From what I understand, I need to report the employer's traditional contribution portion as a conversion, but this is where I'm hitting a wall. Looking at my 1099-R, Box 5 shows my personal Roth contributions, but there's nothing that clearly indicates the employer's traditional contribution amount. I could probably figure it out by digging through old statements, but shouldn't this information be included somewhere on the 1099-R? The tax software I'm using isn't helping either. All the prompts seem to assume I'm converting an entire traditional account to Roth, not dealing with this mixed situation. Has anyone dealt with this before? Do I need to manually calculate and report the employer contribution portion as a conversion? Or is it possible the payer didn't report it properly and I should just leave it alone? Really confused about the right approach here.

Rajiv Kumar

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This is actually a common situation with mixed Roth/Traditional rollovers. The 1099-R doesn't typically break down the employer contribution portion separately, which makes reporting tricky. What you need to do is calculate the employer contribution amount from your old statements. This portion should be reported as a conversion from Traditional to Roth, which means it will be taxable. Your personal Roth contributions (the amount in Box 5) have already been taxed, so those aren't an issue. Most tax software has a way to handle partial conversions, but it's not always obvious. Look for options like "partial rollover" or "partial conversion" rather than whole-account options. You might need to manually enter the employer contribution amount as the taxable portion. Don't ignore this just because it's not clearly spelled out on the 1099-R. The IRS can match the total rollover amount with what you report, and you don't want to get flagged for underreporting income.

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So wait, if I'm understanding this right, I need to pay taxes on the employer contribution part even though I never saw that money as income? That seems like double taxation. And how do I determine exactly what portion was employer vs my own contributions if the 1099-R doesn't break it down?

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Rajiv Kumar

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You're not being double-taxed. The employer contributions to a traditional 401(k) were made pre-tax, meaning you never paid income tax on that money in the first place. When you convert those funds to a Roth IRA, you're changing pre-tax money to after-tax money, which requires paying the taxes you hadn't paid before. For determining the breakdown, you'll need to look at your 401(k) statements or call your former plan administrator. They should be able to tell you exactly how much was employer contribution (pre-tax) versus your own Roth contributions. It's worth the effort to get these numbers right.

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Daniela Rossi

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Don't forget to check if your 401k plan provides a breakdown between your Roth contributions and the employer's traditional contributions in your year-end statement! Mine actually had a separate form called a "Rollover Statement" that broke everything down cleanly, but they didn't automatically send it - I had to request it specifically. Call your old plan administrator and ask for detailed documentation of your account balance at the time of rollover, with specific breakdowns of contribution types. Makes this whole process much easier than trying to piece it together from the 1099-R alone.

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I didn't know about requesting a Rollover Statement! Would this be something different than my regular quarterly statements? And would it show the exact tax basis I need?

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Daniela Rossi

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Yes, it's different from your regular statements. The Rollover Statement is specifically designed to help with tax reporting when you move money between retirement accounts. It typically shows the exact breakdown of pre-tax vs. after-tax contributions, which is exactly what you need. Not all plan administrators call it the same thing, but if you ask for documentation showing the tax basis of your rollover with a breakdown of contribution types, they'll know what you need. This document makes tax reporting much more straightforward and gives you documentation to back up your tax filing if questions ever come up.

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Ryan Kim

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Has anyone used the Form 8606 for reporting this kind of partial conversion? My accountant said I need to fill this out to show the taxable portion of my rollover but I'm completely lost on how to complete it properly.

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Zoe Walker

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Form 8606 is definitely required here. Part II is specifically for reporting conversions from traditional, SEP, or SIMPLE IRAs to Roth IRAs. You'll enter the total distribution on line 8, then the taxable amount (your employer contributions) on line 10.

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Carmen Diaz

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I went through this exact same situation last year and it was definitely confusing at first! Here's what I learned from my tax preparer and some research: The key is understanding that your employer's traditional contributions were never taxed when they went into your 401k, so when you roll them to a Roth IRA, that's essentially a conversion that triggers taxable income. Your personal Roth contributions that show in Box 5 are fine since you already paid taxes on those. What helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking my contribution history. I went back through my pay stubs and 401k statements to identify exactly how much my employer contributed as traditional (pre-tax) money versus my own Roth contributions. This gave me the exact amount I needed to report as taxable conversion income. Most tax software will handle this once you know the amounts - look for the section on "partial rollovers" or "mixed traditional/Roth distributions." You'll enter the total rollover amount, then specify how much was already taxed (your Roth portion) versus how much needs to be taxed now (employer traditional portion). Don't skip this step - the IRS will eventually catch discrepancies between what your 1099-R shows and what you report, and it's much easier to get it right the first time than deal with notices later!

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Zara Rashid

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This is really helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation and the spreadsheet idea makes so much sense. Quick question though - when you say "go back through pay stubs," what specifically should I be looking for? Is it the employer match amounts or something else? I'm worried I might miss something important in my calculations.

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