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Fatima Al-Suwaidi

TurboTax errors when reporting retirement account rollovers from 401k to Traditional IRA to Roth IRA

I'm struggling to figure out how to properly report my rollovers in TurboTax, keep getting error messages and could really use some help. Here's what happened with my retirement accounts this year: 1. Got laid off from my job in September and did a direct rollover of my 401k (~$87,000) to a traditional IRA at Fidelity. 2. About 3 weeks later, I realized I didn't actually want a traditional IRA for tax reasons, so I did another direct rollover to a Roth IRA at Vanguard. 3. Now I've received two 1099-R forms: one for the 401k to Traditional IRA move, and another for the Traditional IRA to Roth IRA conversion. The entire amount was transferred in both rollovers, but TurboTax keeps flagging errors when I try to enter this. I think I'm supposed to pay taxes on the conversion to Roth, but the software isn't calculating this correctly or something? Not sure if I need to mark these as rollovers or conversions or both. Totally confused and don't want to mess this up!

Those multiple rollovers can definitely be tricky in tax software! Let me help clarify how to handle this situation. For the first transaction (401k to Traditional IRA), this is a non-taxable direct rollover. When entering the 1099-R for this transaction in TurboTax, you should: - Make sure box 7 on the 1099-R shows code "G" for direct rollover - Indicate this was rolled over to a Traditional IRA - The taxable amount should be zero since it's a rollover between pre-tax accounts For the second transaction (Traditional IRA to Roth IRA), this is actually a conversion, not just a rollover, and is taxable: - When entering this 1099-R, the full amount will be taxable income - TurboTax should recognize this as a conversion rather than just a rollover - The taxable amount will be the entire amount moved from Traditional to Roth The errors might be occurring because TurboTax sometimes needs specific information entered in a certain order. Try re-entering the forms from scratch, following the prompts exactly.

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Sofia Morales

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Thanks for the explanation! I'm a bit confused about the tax implications though. If I'm understanding right, I'll owe taxes on the full $87k I converted to Roth? Is there any way to spread that tax hit over multiple years or am I stuck paying it all this year?

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You'll need to pay taxes on the full amount converted from Traditional to Roth IRA in the year the conversion happened. Unfortunately, the option to spread the tax burden over multiple years was a special provision that only applied to conversions made in 2010. For your current situation, the entire converted amount will be added to your taxable income for this year. This could potentially push you into a higher tax bracket, so it's worth calculating the impact. If you've already completed the conversion, you'll need to plan for the tax bill, but for future reference, some people choose to convert portions of their Traditional IRAs over several years specifically to manage the tax impact.

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Dmitry Popov

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Does it actually work with TurboTax specifically? I've tried other "helpers" before that end up being totally generic and not actually showing the screens or options I need to select.

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I'm a bit skeptical of these AI tax tools. How does it handle state-specific issues? I'm in CA and they treat some retirement account transactions differently than federal.

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Miguel Silva

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Yara Nassar

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Make sure you're using the most recent version of TurboTax! I had a similar rollover situation and the older version I was using didn't handle the forms correctly. After updating, it worked much better. Also double check that you're entering the correct distribution codes from Box 7 on your 1099-Rs. The code for the first rollover should be different from the code for the conversion to Roth. That might be causing the errors.

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Thanks for the suggestion! I just checked and I'm using the latest version (2024 for tax year 2023), but you might be right about the distribution codes. The 401k to Traditional IRA 1099-R has code "G" in Box 7, but the Traditional to Roth 1099-R has code "2" - does that sound right? Maybe that's where TurboTax is getting confused?

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Yara Nassar

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Yes, that actually sounds correct! Code "G" indicates a direct rollover to another qualified plan (your 401k to Traditional IRA), which is non-taxable. Code "2" typically indicates an early distribution, but for IRA to Roth IRA conversions, that's often the code used since technically it's considered a distribution from your Traditional IRA that's then contributed to your Roth. The confusion might be in how you're telling TurboTax about the second transaction. When entering the second 1099-R, make sure you specifically indicate it's a conversion to a Roth IRA rather than just a regular distribution. There should be a specific question or option for this in the interview process. It's easy to miss!

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Don't forget you'll need to file Form 8606 for the traditional IRA to Roth conversion! This is super important and easy to miss. Also make sure you're not getting hit with an early withdrawal penalty. The conversion itself is exempt from the 10% penalty, but TurboTax sometimes flags it incorrectly if you don't answer all the questions in the right order.

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Absolutely right about Form 8606! I did the same kind of conversion last year and initially TurboTax calculated a 10% penalty. I had to go back and specifically indicate it was a Roth conversion to get it to stop applying the penalty. The software doesn't always pick up on this automatically.

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