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Why are my Backdoor Roth IRA Contributions showing up as income on TurboTax? W2 income + conversion question

Hey everyone, I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to retirement accounts and investing, so I could really use some help here. I make about $145k as a single filer, and this year (2024) I decided to try the backdoor Roth IRA method after reading about it online. I opened a Traditional IRA around February, contributed $6000, and then converted it to a Roth IRA about a week later. Now I'm working on my taxes using TurboTax, and I'm freaking out because it's saying I owe an extra $1300 to the IRS? This doesn't seem right. Looking at my Vanguard 1099-R form, Box 1 (Gross Distribution) shows $6,002.15, and Box 2a (Taxable Amount) also shows $6,002.15. When I entered this into TurboTax, it added this amount on top of my W2 income, making my total income around $152k including wages, some interest income, dividends, a small capital gain, and this "taxable IRA distribution" of $6,002. I'm super confused because I thought the whole point of the backdoor Roth was that I'm using post-tax money? The $6k I contributed came from my checking account, which was money I've already paid taxes on. Why is TurboTax treating this as additional income? Also, do I need to fill out Form 8606? TurboTax doesn't seem to be prompting me for this. I'm worried I messed something up in the process and now I'm being double-taxed. Any help would be really appreciated!

You definitely need Form 8606! This is exactly why your taxes are showing incorrectly. The 1099-R only shows that you took money out of your Traditional IRA (the conversion part), but without Form 8606, the IRS doesn't know that it was nondeductible contributions. TurboTax should absolutely be prompting you for Form 8606, but sometimes it misses this. You need to manually add it. Look under the Forms section or search specifically for "8606" in TurboTax. This form is where you report nondeductible contributions to a Traditional IRA. On Form 8606, you'll show that your Traditional IRA contribution was made with after-tax money, which establishes your "basis" in the IRA. This prevents that money from being taxed again when you convert to a Roth IRA. Without this form, the IRS assumes all money converted was pre-tax (deductible) contributions, which is why you're seeing an increase in your taxable income. The only part that should potentially be taxable is any earnings that occurred between the time you made the contribution and when you converted it. Since you converted quickly, this should be minimal (the $2.15 difference between your $6000 contribution and the $6002.15 distribution).

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So where exactly in TurboTax do you add the 8606 form? I've been clicking around for 20 minutes and can't find it anywhere. Is it under deductions or income or what?

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In TurboTax, you can find Form 8606 by going to the "Tax Tools" menu, then selecting "Tools," and then "Form Search." Type "8606" in the search box and it should appear. Select it to add it to your return. Another way is to go through the IRA contributions section. If you haven't already entered your IRA contributions, go to the Deductions & Credits section, look for Retirement & Investments, and then IRA contributions. When you indicate you made a non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution, it should trigger Form 8606. Make sure you follow through all the questions about the conversion too.

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I see lots of people mentioning Form 8606, but nobody has clearly explained WHAT to enter on it. Here's exactly what you need to do: On Form 8606: - Part I is where you report your nondeductible contribution to the Traditional IRA - Line 1 would be your $6000 contribution - Lines 2-3 about basis would be zero if this is your first time - Complete the calculation through line 14 - Part II is for the conversion to Roth IRA - Line 16 would be your total distribution ($6002.15) - The calculations will show that only the $2.15 in earnings is taxable You should end up with line 18 showing just the small amount of earnings as taxable, NOT your entire contribution. This matches your 1099-R but tells the IRS that most of it was already taxed money.

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This is SUPER helpful, thank you! I've been trying to find these specific steps. One more question - do I also report the $6000 contribution somewhere else, or is Form 8606 the only place I need to show it?

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Form 8606 is the primary place to report the nondeductible Traditional IRA contribution. You don't claim a deduction for it elsewhere on your return. In TurboTax, you should still go through the IRA contribution section to indicate you made a Traditional IRA contribution, but when asked if you want to deduct it, select "No" (since you're over the income limit for deducting IRA contributions). This should then guide you to Form 8606.

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Happened to me last year too! Just want to clarify something - the small earnings between contribution and conversion ($2.15 in your case) ARE actually taxable. You have to pay tax on that tiny bit of growth. But the original $6000 contribution is NOT taxable again as long as you document it properly with Form 8606. If you don't file Form 8606, the IRS has no way to know that you already paid tax on that money, which is why TurboTax is calculating additional tax on the full amount. The form establishes your "basis" (already-taxed amount) in the Traditional IRA.

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This is why the backdoor Roth is so annoying! All this paperwork for a simple retirement contribution. Makes me wonder if it's even worth it. I make around the same as OP and I've just been investing in a taxable brokerage instead to avoid all these hoops.

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