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Marcus Marsh

After converting $5K from Traditional IRA to Roth IRA, my 1099-R is causing double taxation - how can I fix this?

I need some help with a tax situation I got myself into. Back in 2023, I accidentally deposited $5,500 into my Traditional IRA account with Vanguard. I realized my mistake about a week later and immediately converted the entire amount to my Roth IRA within Vanguard. The problem is I just received my 1099-R showing this distribution, and when I entered it into my tax software, my tax bill suddenly jumped up. It looks like I'm being taxed on that $5,500 conversion. Since I made the conversion in the same tax year, and the Traditional IRA contribution was non-deductible, I shouldn't have to pay additional tax on this 1099-R, right? I've been looking through the IRS website and saw something about Form 8606 for non-deductible contributions, but I'm totally confused about how to handle this correctly. Does anyone know how to make sure I don't get double-taxed on this conversion? I'm freaking out a bit because my refund just dropped by almost $1,200.

You're absolutely right to be concerned, but there's a straightforward solution. When you convert from a Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA, you need to report it properly to avoid double taxation. Form 8606 is exactly what you need. This form tracks your non-deductible contributions to Traditional IRAs. Since you contributed to a Traditional IRA and then converted to a Roth within the same year without taking a deduction, you'll need to complete Form 8606 to establish that this money has already been taxed. The 1099-R is correctly reporting the distribution from your Traditional IRA, but you need Form 8606 to show that the basis (the amount you contributed with after-tax dollars) should not be taxed again during the conversion.

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Cedric Chung

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So do they need to fill out both Form 8606 Part I for the nondeductible contribution AND Part II for the conversion? Or just one of those parts? My tax software got super confused when I tried to do something similar.

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Yes, you'll need to complete both Part I and Part II of Form 8606. Part I establishes your nondeductible contribution and calculates your basis in your Traditional IRAs. Part II then handles the conversion to the Roth IRA and determines how much of that conversion is taxable. Most tax software should walk you through this, but sometimes you need to specifically indicate that you made a nondeductible contribution before entering the conversion. If your software is getting confused, make sure you're entering the Traditional IRA contribution first as nondeductible, then entering the conversion separately.

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Charity Cohan

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When you do a conversion from traditional to Roth, you're taxed on any untaxed contributions and earnings. If you made a NON-deductible contribution (meaning you already paid tax on it) to your traditional IRA and then converted it, you should only be taxed on any earnings that happened between contribution and conversion. Since you converted just a few days after contributing, there were probably minimal earnings, so most of that conversion should be tax-free. As others have said, Form 8606 is key here - specifically parts I and II.

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Josef Tearle

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If there were literally no earnings between the contribution and conversion (like if the market was down those few days), would the taxable amount be zero? And does the 1099-R differentiate this or do you have to calculate it yourself?

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Charity Cohan

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If there were no earnings (or even if there was a loss), the taxable amount would indeed be zero. The 1099-R unfortunately doesn't differentiate this for you - it typically shows the full distribution amount in Box 1 and often shows the full amount as taxable in Box 2a as well, even when it's not. You have to calculate the non-taxable portion yourself using Form 8606. This is why it's so important to file this form - it's your documentation that establishes which portion of the conversion was after-tax money that shouldn't be taxed again.

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Shelby Bauman

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Make sure you're entering everything in the right order in your tax software! I had this exact problem last year and realized I was entering my Roth conversion before establishing that I had made a non-deductible contribution. Try this sequence: 1) Enter the non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution first 2) Tell the software it was non-deductible 3) Then enter the 1099-R for the conversion In TurboTax, there's actually a specific section for IRA conversions that's separate from regular distributions. If you enter it as a regular distribution, it thinks the whole thing is taxable!

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Marcus Marsh

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Thanks for the sequence tips! I think that's exactly what I did wrong - I just entered the 1099-R directly without establishing the non-deductible contribution first. I'm using TaxAct, not TurboTax, but I bet the principle is the same. I'll try re-doing it in that order and see if it fixes the calculation. Appreciate everyone's help on this!

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