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Javier Morales

Making a Backdoor Roth IRA Contribution & Conversion for 2022 in 2023 - Tax Implications?

I made a contribution of $12,500 to my Traditional IRA back in April 2023 (just before the tax deadline). I designated $6000 of that amount for the 2022 tax year, with the remaining $6500 counting toward 2023. After making the contribution, I immediately converted the entire $12,500 into my Roth IRA. Now I'm working on my 2023 tax return and I'm getting hit with some unexpected tax consequences. I thought the backdoor Roth conversion would be straightforward, but it looks like I'm missing something important about the timing of contributions versus conversions across different tax years. Can someone explain what's happening here and if I've made a mistake? I'm worried I might be getting double-taxed or missing some form I should be filing. Any advice would be really appreciated!

The issue you're running into is likely related to Form 8606, which needs to be filed separately for each tax year involved in your backdoor Roth process. For the 2022 tax portion: You should have reported the $6000 non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution on your 2022 tax return using Form 8606. This establishes your basis so you don't get taxed again when converting. For the 2023 tax portion: You'll need to report both the $6500 contribution for 2023 AND the full $12,500 conversion on your 2023 return. The conversion is reported on Form 8606 again, but you'll also need to report it on your 1040. The tricky part is that conversions always count for the calendar year they occur in (2023), regardless of which tax year the contributions were designated for. So while your contributions were split between tax years, the entire conversion is a 2023 event for tax purposes.

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Thanks for explaining! So if I didn't file Form 8606 with my 2022 return (which I've already filed), do I need to file an amended return for 2022? Or can I just include both years' worth of Form 8606 information with my 2023 return?

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Yes, you should file an amended return (Form 1040-X) for 2022 along with a completed Form 8606 to properly establish your non-deductible basis for that $6000 contribution. This is important because without it, the IRS may treat your entire conversion as taxable income when it shouldn't be. For your 2023 return, you'll complete another Form 8606 showing the $6500 non-deductible contribution for 2023 and the full $12,500 conversion. The form will calculate how much of the conversion is taxable based on your total non-deductible basis ($6000 + $6500 = $12,500), which should result in little to no taxable amount if done correctly.

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One thing to watch out for with backdoor Roth IRAs - if you have ANY other traditional IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA funds that have pre-tax money, you'll get hit with taxes based on the pro-rata rule. The IRS looks at ALL your IRA money across all accounts. For example, if you have $50,000 in a traditional IRA from an old 401k rollover and you do a $6,000 non-deductible contribution followed by a conversion, you can't just convert the $6,000 tax-free. The IRS will consider it proportional to your total IRA balance.

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Does this pro-rata rule apply even if the other traditional IRA is with a different company? Like if my backdoor Roth is with Vanguard but I have an old IRA at Fidelity?

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Yes, the pro-rata rule applies regardless of where your IRA accounts are held. The IRS doesn't care if they're at different institutions - they look at the total of all your traditional, SEP, and SIMPLE IRAs combined when calculating how much of a conversion is taxable. It's one of the most common mistakes people make with backdoor Roth conversions. The only way around it is to either convert all your pre-tax IRA money (and pay the taxes), or if you have a 401k that allows it, roll your pre-tax IRA funds into the 401k before doing the backdoor Roth process.

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Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting a backdoor Roth? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if it handles this correctly or if I need to go to a tax professional.

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I used TurboTax last year for my backdoor Roth and it worked fine, but you have to be careful about how you enter everything. Make sure you indicate that your Traditional IRA contribution was non-deductible. There's a specific section for Form 8606 in TurboTax where you'll report both the contribution and conversion.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! I'll look for that Form 8606 section specifically. Did you find that TurboTax explained the process well, or did you need to already understand what you were doing?

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