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Hailey O'Leary

Help! Excess IRA contribution issue on Form 5329 - carrying over from previous years

I'm stressing out over something weird on my Form 5329 while doing my taxes this year. There's an excess contribution from 2023 showing up, but when I looked at my 2023 tax stuff, it seems like it actually originated back in 2022! I'm totally confused about how this happened and what to do next. Does this mean I'm stuck reporting this excess contribution forever? Line 18 makes it seem like I might be. And have I already been hit with penalties twice for the same mistake? For background, I've been doing backdoor Roth conversions for several years now. I've always been super careful to do the process correctly - putting money in my Traditional IRA first and then immediately converting it to my Roth before any interest gets added. I thought I was doing everything right, but now I'm worried I messed something up along the way. Can anyone help me figure out how to fix this excess contribution issue once and for all?

Cedric Chung

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This is a common issue with backdoor Roth conversions. When you see an excess contribution carrying forward on Form 5329, it usually means something went wrong in the reporting process rather than the actual contribution process. First, check if you properly reported both the non-deductible contribution to your Traditional IRA on Form 8606 AND the conversion to the Roth IRA. Many people correctly do the transactions but miss reporting one step on their tax forms, which can create this phantom "excess contribution" that carries forward. To fix this, you'll need to amend the return where the error first appeared (looks like 2022 in your case). Once you correct that year's return with the proper reporting, the excess contribution should disappear from subsequent years. You shouldn't have to report it in perpetuity if you fix the original error. And no, you shouldn't be penalized multiple times for the same excess contribution - that would be double taxation. But you do need to correct the original return to stop the carryover.

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Talia Klein

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So if they need to amend 2022, do they also need to then amend 2023? Or will fixing 2022 automatically resolve the issue for 2023 and current tax year?

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Cedric Chung

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They would need to amend both 2022 and 2023 returns. Fixing the 2022 return establishes the correct basis and reporting of the contribution/conversion, which eliminates the excess contribution at its source. Then they'll need to amend the 2023 return to remove the carried-over excess contribution since it was based on the erroneous 2022 information. Only after both prior years are corrected can they properly file their current year return without the phantom excess.

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Josef Tearle

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I had this exact problem with my backdoor Roth. The key is Form 8606 - you need to make sure you're properly reporting the non-deductible contribution to the traditional IRA. If you miss that step, the system thinks you've made an excess contribution. Check if you filed Form 8606 for 2022. If not, you need to file an amended return for 2022 with the proper Form 8606, then amend 2023 as well. Once you break the chain, you won't have to keep reporting it. Make sure that on Form 8606: - You report the non-deductible contribution - You properly report the conversion to Roth - You track your basis correctly

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I'm going to look back at my records and check if I filed Form 8606 correctly in 2022. I think you're right - I may have reported the Roth conversion but missed reporting the initial non-deductible contribution. Do I need to file an amended return for both 2022 and 2023 or just 2022?

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Josef Tearle

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You'll need to file amended returns (Form 1040-X) for both 2022 and 2023. Start with 2022 to properly document the non-deductible contribution and conversion. Then amend 2023 to remove any excess contribution carryover that was incorrectly reported. I recommend filing the 2022 amendment first, waiting for it to be processed, and then filing the 2023 amendment. This creates a clear paper trail for the IRS to follow. It's a bit of work, but it's the only way to break the chain and stop paying the 6% penalty year after year.

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Shelby Bauman

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I see so many people having problems with backdoor Roths. Is it even worth it anymore? I've been thinking about doing one but these issues make me nervous.

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Quinn Herbert

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It's definitely worth it if you're over the income limit for direct Roth contributions. The paperwork isn't that bad once you understand it. The key is making sure you report both steps: 1. Non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution (Form 8606) 2. Conversion to Roth IRA (also on Form 8606) Most issues happen because people miss reporting step 1. As long as you document everything properly, backdoor Roths are still a great strategy for high earners.

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Shelby Bauman

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Thanks, that's helpful. I make just over the limit for direct Roth contributions, so it sounds like it might be worth the extra paperwork. Do you use special software to make sure you're reporting everything correctly?

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Lena Schultz

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Just went through this exact same nightmare with my 2022-2023 backdoor Roth situation. The cascade effect is real and super frustrating! What helped me was creating a timeline of exactly what happened each year: - 2022: What contributions were made, what conversions happened, what forms were filed - 2023: What excess showed up, what penalties were assessed - Current year: What's carrying forward Once I mapped it out, I could see that I had properly made the non-deductible contribution in 2022 but my tax software didn't generate the Form 8606 correctly. The IRS saw the Roth conversion but not the underlying traditional IRA contribution basis, so they treated the whole conversion as taxable income PLUS flagged it as an excess contribution. The good news is that once you fix the original year (sounds like 2022 for you), the excess contribution issue should resolve. You'll need to amend both 2022 and 2023, but after that you should be clear. Don't let this scare you away from backdoor Roths - they're still worth it, just need to be extra careful with the paperwork!

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