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Excess Roth IRA contributions from 2022 - Too late to withdraw in 2024?

I just realized I messed up my Roth IRA contributions back in 2022 and I'm freaking out a bit. When I was doing my taxes for that year, there was a red flag showing $4630 in excess contributions to my Roth even though I'm positive I only put in the $6000 limit. After digging through some old tax documents, I figured out it had something to do with my MAGI being around $140k that year, which apparently starts phasing out Roth eligibility (who knew??). The problem is, I had no clue about this income limit at the time and never withdrew the excess money. Now it's 2024, and I'm worried sick about what to do. Is it too late to fix this? Will I get hammered with penalties? Has anyone dealt with excess Roth IRA contributions years after the fact? Any advice would be super appreciated!

This is a common issue with Roth IRAs that catches many people by surprise. The income limits for Roth IRA contributions are often overlooked until tax filing time. For 2022, the Roth IRA contribution limit started phasing out at a MAGI of $129,000 for single filers and was completely phased out at $144,000. With your MAGI around $140k, you were in the phase-out range, which explains why part of your contribution was considered excess. The good news: You can still fix this. You have two main options: 1) Remove the excess contribution and associated earnings, or 2) Recharacterize the excess contribution to a Traditional IRA if you're eligible. Both options involve some paperwork and potentially some tax consequences, but they're better than leaving the excess contribution untouched and continuing to accrue the 6% penalty each year. Contact your IRA custodian immediately to discuss these options. They'll have the forms needed to process either correction method. Just be aware that you'll likely owe the 6% excise tax for each year the excess remained in the account (2022 and 2023).

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Would OP also need to file amended returns for 2022 and 2023 if they remove the excess contributions now? And what about the earnings on that excess amount - are those taxed differently?

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You may need to file Form 5329 for both 2022 and 2023 to report the excess contributions and pay the 6% penalty for each year if you haven't already done so. Whether you need to fully amend your returns depends on your specific situation. For the earnings on the excess contributions, if you withdraw them now, they would be considered taxable income in 2024 (the year of withdrawal), and since you're withdrawing them after the due date for your 2022 return, those earnings may also be subject to the 10% early distribution penalty if you're under 59½.

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year with excess Roth contributions from 2021. My income unexpectedly jumped and I had no idea about the MAGI limits. I spent hours trying to figure it out myself but kept running in circles with all the IRS jargon. I finally used https://taxr.ai to analyze my situation - uploaded my tax docs and retirement account statements, and it gave me a clear breakdown of exactly what happened and my options. Saved me a ton of time trying to decipher IRS publications. The tool recommended I do a "return of excess contribution" with my brokerage (Fidelity in my case), and calculated exactly how much I needed to withdraw including the earnings. Made the whole process way less stressful.

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How does taxr.ai handle the calculations for the earnings portion? I've heard different brokerages calculate those differently, and I'm worried about getting it wrong and creating an even bigger problem.

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools. Did it actually save you money compared to the penalties? And how complicated was the process with your brokerage after getting the recommendation?

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The tool uses the IRS-approved method for calculating earnings on excess contributions, which is what most brokerages use too. It gave me the formula and the exact amount based on my account performance. When I called Fidelity with this number, they confirmed it was correct. The process definitely saved me money. I was looking at a 6% penalty every year until I fixed it, plus potential additional penalties. Even with paying tax on the earnings, it was much cheaper to fix it properly. After getting the recommendation, I just had to call Fidelity, tell them I needed to do a "return of excess contribution" for my Roth IRA, provide the amounts, and they handled the paperwork. Took about 20 minutes on the phone plus signing a form they sent by email.

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Just wanted to update after using taxr.ai for my excess Roth IRA situation. I was really skeptical at first (as you could probably tell from my earlier comment), but decided to try it since I was getting nowhere with my research. Gotta say, it was actually super helpful. The tool identified that I could do a "recharacterization" instead of a withdrawal since I was still within certain time limits, which I didn't even know was an option. This ended up saving me some money on taxes for the earnings. The step-by-step instructions made it easy to call my broker and get it fixed. They walked me through exactly what forms to ask for and what to say. If you're dealing with excess contributions like OP, definitely worth checking out.

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If you're trying to contact the IRS about this excess contribution issue, good luck. I spent 4 HOURS on hold last week trying to get clarification about my similar situation with excess contributions. Never got through. Then a friend told me about https://claimyr.com - they have this service where they basically wait on hold with the IRS for you, then call you when an agent is actually on the line. You can also see how it works at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. I was really skeptical but figured it was worth a shot since I needed answers before filing my taxes. It worked surprisingly well - they called me back in about 90 minutes with an actual IRS agent on the line. The agent confirmed I could still fix my excess contribution issue from a previous tax year and walked me through the exact process. Saved me from making a costly mistake on my return.

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Wait, how does this actually work? Do they just have people sitting around calling the IRS all day? Why would they do this for others?

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This sounds like BS honestly. The IRS won't talk to a third party about your taxes without authorization. How would they transfer the call to you and why would the IRS stay on the line for that?

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They don't talk to the IRS about your taxes at all. They literally just wait on hold for you. When they reach a human IRS agent, they call your phone and connect you directly to the agent. Think of it like having someone physically sit at your desk and wait on hold while you do other things, then they wave you over when someone finally answers. They don't discuss your information or situation at all - they just bridge the call to you as soon as a human answers. It's completely legit and doesn't violate any authorization rules because they're not accessing your tax info or speaking on your behalf. Once connected, it's just you and the IRS agent talking directly.

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Ok I need to follow up on my skeptical comment above. I actually tried the Claimyr service because I was desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my excess IRA contribution issue before filing my taxes this year. I'm honestly shocked that it worked exactly as described. They called me when they had an IRS agent on the line, connected us, and then I just had my conversation directly with the IRS. The agent explained that I could still correct my excess contributions from 2022 by filing Form 5329 for both 2022 and 2023, paying the 6% penalty for each year, and then either withdrawing the excess + earnings or recharacterizing to a traditional IRA if eligible. Saved me at least 3 hours of hold time and the stress of trying to multitask while keeping a phone to my ear. Sorry for being a doubter!

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Another option nobody's mentioned yet - you could apply the excess contribution to a future year if you're planning to contribute less than the max. For example, if you're eligible to contribute to a Roth in 2024 but won't max it out, you could apply the excess from 2022 toward your 2024 contribution limit. You'd still pay the 6% penalty for 2022 and 2023, but it might be easier than dealing with withdrawal or recharacterization if your plan is to keep contributing anyway.

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That's an interesting option I hadn't thought about. Would I still need to file anything special for 2022 and 2023 to show that I'm now applying that excess to 2024? Or does just paying the penalty take care of it?

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You would need to file Form 5329 for tax years 2022 and 2023 to pay the 6% excise tax for each of those years. Then when you do your 2024 taxes, you would indicate that you're applying prior year excess contributions to your 2024 contribution limit. The important thing is that you don't make a full contribution for 2024 if you're applying the excess from 2022. For example, if the 2024 limit is $7,000 and you're applying $4,630 from 2022, you would only be able to contribute an additional $2,370 for 2024. It's a good option if you're short on cash but still want to maintain your retirement savings.

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Another thing to consider - the contribution limits for Roth IRAs increase sometimes. For 2024, the limit is $7,000 for those under 50. Depending on your expected income this year, that might affect your decision about how to handle the excess.

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The Roth income limits also increased for 2024. For single filers, the phaseout range is now $146,000-$161,000. So if OP's income is similar to 2022 (around $140k), they might be fully eligible this year without any phaseout.

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That's a good point. With the new higher income phaseout ranges, OP might not run into the same problem for 2024. But they still need to address that 2022 excess contribution issue regardless of their current situation. Leaving it unresolved means continuing to pay that 6% penalty year after year.

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