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Mei Liu

How to handle excess Roth IRA contributions from 2021 with Vanguard?

So I just got notified that my $6000 Roth IRA contribution for 2021 was actually over the limit (ugh!). Apparently my income was higher than I expected that year and now I'm stuck with excess contributions. I'm trying to figure out the correct process to remove this money from my Vanguard account without making things worse. I started going through Vanguard's online process for removing excess contributions, but honestly, I'm second-guessing every step. The form asks for tax year of the excess, earnings attributable to the excess, and some other details I'm not 100% confident about. Has anyone gone through this process before? What's the right way to handle excess Roth IRA contributions from 2021 at this point? Am I going to get hit with a bunch of penalties? I really want to make sure I'm doing this correctly to avoid digging myself into a deeper hole with the IRS.

This situation happens more often than you'd think! To properly handle excess Roth IRA contributions from 2021, you need to complete a "return of excess contribution" request with Vanguard. The process requires you to specify the tax year (2021), the exact amount of excess ($6000 in your case), and the earnings attributable to those excess contributions. Vanguard can help calculate the earnings portion, which is important because those earnings are taxable in the year you withdraw them. Since we're now past the tax filing deadline for 2021 (including extensions), you'll unfortunately face a 6% excise tax for each year the excess remained in your account. You'll need to file Form 5329 to report the excess contribution and pay the penalty.

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Amara Chukwu

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Does the 6% penalty apply each year until they remove it? Like would they owe 6% for 2021, another 6% for 2022, and another 6% for 2023, and potentially another 6% for 2024 if they don't get it out soon??

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Yes, the 6% excise tax applies for each year the excess contribution remains in the account. So in this case, if the excess hasn't been removed yet, they would owe 6% for 2021, another 6% for 2022, and another 6% for 2023. This is why it's important to address excess contributions as soon as possible. If they remove the excess now, they can stop the penalty from applying to 2024, but they'll still need to pay the penalties for the previous years by filing Form 5329 for each affected year.

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Ava Thompson

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Something to consider - instead of removing the excess contribution, you might be able to apply it to next year's contribution if you haven't already maxed out for that year. Vanguard calls this "recharacterizing" the contribution. Still need to pay the 6% penalty for the years it was excess, but it could simplify the process going forward.

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Mei Liu

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Can you really apply a 2021 excess contribution to a future year? I thought recharacterization was just for switching between traditional and Roth, not for changing which year the contribution applies to?

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Ava Thompson

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You're right about the terminology - I didn't use the correct term. What I meant was that you can apply the excess contribution toward a future year's contribution limit, but you're still liable for the 6% penalty until it's properly applied. So in your case, if you haven't contributed the max for 2024 yet, you could leave the money in there and count $6000 of it toward your 2024 contribution instead of physically removing it. You'd still owe the 6% penalty for 2021, 2022, and 2023, but it would save you from having to calculate earnings and going through the withdrawal process.

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Miguel Ramos

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Quick question for anyone who's done this: if the entire $6000 was excess, does Vanguard just close your Roth IRA completely? Or do they just remove the money but keep the account open?

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They just remove the money and any associated earnings - they don't close your account. I had this exact situation with Vanguard last year, and my account stayed open with a $0 balance after the removal.

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StarSailor

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Word of warning from someone who procrastinated on fixing an excess contribution - the 6% penalty really adds up over multiple years. Don't wait to fix this! I ended up paying almost $1100 in penalties because I waited over 3 years to correct mine.

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