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Paolo Rizzo

How to Fix an HSA Excess Contribution - Need Help with Removal Process

I messed up and really need some advice on fixing an HSA excess contribution. Here's what happened: Started a new HDHP through my job on January 1st, 2025. My employer has been making pre-tax contributions to my Optum HSA from my paycheck every two weeks since then. All good so far. But then I made a big mistake in January 2025 - I opened a second HSA with Vanguard and contributed about $3,800 toward the 2024 tax year using money from my personal checking account. I just realized I wasn't eligible to make this contribution since I wasn't covered by an HDHP at all during 2024! Now I need to remove this excess contribution from my Vanguard HSA before the April 15th filing deadline to avoid penalties. Here's my planned process to fix this: 1. Submit an Excess Contribution Removal form with Vanguard 2. Move my HSA investments to cash position and wait for trades to settle 3. Wait for Vanguard to return the money to my checking account 4. Verify in May that either I don't receive a 5498-SA form for 2024, or if I do, it shows $0 contribution 5. File my 2024 taxes normally without including any HSA forms or deductions related to this mistake 6. Next year, make sure I receive the 1099-SA from Vanguard showing the excess contribution removal 7. Include this 1099-SA when filing my 2025 taxes, which should trigger Form 8889 My main questions: - For tax year 2025, will I need to pay taxes on both the excess contribution amount AND any earnings, or just the earnings portion? - What specific tax forms will be involved besides the 1040? - Is there anything I'm missing in my plan to correct this? Really appreciate any help on this - I'm worried about getting hit with penalties!

Amina Sy

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You're mostly on the right track with your plan to fix the HSA excess contribution issue! Let me clarify a few things: When you remove an excess HSA contribution before the tax filing deadline (including extensions), you'll need to pay income tax on any earnings generated by that excess contribution, but not on the contribution amount itself since it was made with after-tax dollars. The earnings portion will be added to your income for the year in which you take the distribution (2025 in your case). For the forms: When you file your 2025 taxes, you'll receive a 1099-SA from Vanguard showing the distribution. The 1099-SA will have code "2" in box 3 indicating an excess contribution removal. You'll need to file Form 8889 with your 2025 taxes, and the earnings portion will flow to your 1040 as "Other Income." One thing to check - make sure you specifically request Vanguard to process this as a "return of excess contributions." Some HSA providers have specific forms for this purpose. This ensures proper coding on the 1099-SA. Your plan to skip filing Forms 5329 and 8889 for 2024 is correct since you're removing the excess before the deadline. Just make sure Vanguard completes the removal before April 15th!

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This is super helpful, thanks! Quick follow-up question: do I need to specifically calculate the earnings myself, or will Vanguard handle that calculation when I submit the excess contribution removal form? Also, if the money I contributed has actually lost value rather than gained, do I still need to report anything?

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Amina Sy

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Vanguard will calculate the earnings (or losses) for you when you submit the excess contribution removal form - you don't need to do this calculation yourself. They'll determine the exact amount based on IRS guidelines. If your investments have lost value, those losses can offset the original contribution amount that's returned to you. You won't get a tax benefit from the losses, but you'll receive back less than you originally contributed. Even with losses, you'll still need to report the distribution on your 2025 taxes using the 1099-SA that Vanguard provides, but the earnings amount in Box 2 would be negative or zero.

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NebulaNomad

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Javier Garcia

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How is this different from just using TurboTax or something? And how much does it cost? Seems like the IRS guidelines should be clear enough about excess contributions without needing special software.

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NebulaNomad

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Emma Taylor

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Javier Garcia

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Something important nobody mentioned yet - be careful about the timing between when you request the excess contribution removal and the tax filing deadline. I had an HSA excess contribution last year, requested the removal with plenty of time (3 weeks before deadline), but my HSA provider (HealthEquity) took forever to process it. The removal wasn't actually completed until after the deadline, which meant I had to file Form 5329 and pay the 6% excise tax! I was able to get it refunded the following year, but it was a huge hassle. I'd recommend requesting the removal ASAP and following up aggressively with Vanguard to make sure it's processed well before April 15th.

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Paolo Rizzo

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Thanks for this warning - that's super helpful! Do you know approximately how long Vanguard typically takes to process these requests? Should I be calling them weekly to check on the status?

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I don't have experience with Vanguard specifically, but with most HSA providers I'd recommend submitting the request at least 4-6 weeks before the deadline. Definitely call and confirm they received your request, then follow up weekly. Ask for specific timeframes and get everything in writing if possible. Some providers will expedite if you explain the tax deadline situation, but don't count on it. If you're getting close to the deadline and it's not processed, you might want to file for an extension on your taxes just to be safe.

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One thing I learned the hard way - make absolutely sure you specify the correct tax year when requesting the removal! My provider had a confusing form that made me think I was requesting removal for the correct year, but they processed it for the wrong year. Also, double check that the 1099-SA you receive next January actually shows distribution code "2" for excess contributions. Mine initially came with code "1" (normal distribution), which would have messed up my taxes completely. I had to request a corrected 1099-SA.

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CosmosCaptain

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Good point about the distribution code! How did you get them to issue a corrected 1099-SA? Did you just call and ask, or did you need to provide documentation?

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Great question about getting corrected 1099-SA forms! I had to call my HSA provider's customer service and explain that the distribution code was incorrect. They initially pushed back saying their system was right, but I had to escalate to a supervisor. The key was having documentation - I kept copies of my original excess contribution removal request form that clearly stated it was for excess contributions. I also referenced the specific IRS guidelines about distribution codes (Publication 969). Once I showed them the written request and cited the IRS rules, they agreed to issue a corrected 1099-SA. It took about 3 weeks to get the corrected form, so definitely don't wait until tax season to check this! I'd recommend reviewing your 1099-SA as soon as you receive it in January and calling immediately if the code is wrong. Also, for anyone dealing with this - save EVERYTHING related to your excess contribution removal request. Having that paper trail made all the difference when I needed to prove what I had actually requested.

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