Income increase puts me over Roth IRA limit after already contributing - what are my options now?
I put $6,500 into my Roth IRA back in February this year assuming my income would be around $135,000 like last year (2024), which was under the $146,000 limit for single filers. But I just got a promotion with a 25% raise, which is gonna push me to about $169,000 for the year. So now I'm freaking out because I've already contributed the max to my Roth IRA but won't actually be eligible! From what I can tell online, I have these options: 1. Just remove the excess contribution - Would this trigger any penalties? The money would go back to my money market account at Vanguard, right? I'm thinking since the tax year isn't over yet, maybe there's no penalty? 2. Recharacterize to Traditional IRA - I could switch the $6,500 from Roth to Traditional IRA. I don't have a Traditional IRA yet (just my Roth, a 401k from old job, and a regular brokerage account). Does this make a backdoor Roth easier later? 3. Do nothing - But then I'd pay a 6% penalty on the whole amount every year, and if I try to withdraw later I'd get hit with the 10% early withdrawal penalty too. One more thing - my investments are down about 12% since I contributed in February. If I withdraw now, do I withdraw the current value or the original contribution? And if the market rebounds later this year, does it matter when I actually do the withdrawal? I'm also worried I might have overcontributed for 2024 too. The income limit was $146,000 but my MAGI was $135,000 which might only allow a partial contribution. Do I need to fix that too?
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Zoe Dimitriou
You've got the situation pretty well understood! Let me clarify a few things about your options: For option 1 (removing excess), you can request a "return of excess contribution" from Vanguard. This won't trigger the 10% early withdrawal penalty as long as you do it before the tax filing deadline (including extensions). You'll only pay taxes on any earnings that came from that contribution. Since you're currently showing a loss, there won't be earnings to tax. For option 2 (recharacterization), this is actually a really smart move if you're considering backdoor Roth contributions in the future. The recharacterization essentially treats your contribution as if it had gone to Traditional IRA from the beginning. Then you could convert it back to Roth (the backdoor method) which has no income limits. As for your investments being down - this actually works in your favor. If you withdraw or recharacterize, you'll only move the current value (the reduced amount), not your original contribution. So you'd be "removing" less money than you put in. Regarding your 2024 contribution concern: If your MAGI was $135,000, you should be eligible for a partial contribution, not the full amount. The phase-out range for 2024 starts at $129,000, so you might need to address this too.
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QuantumQuest
•If they recharacterize to Traditional IRA then do backdoor Roth, wouldn't the pro-rata rule come into play if they have that rollover IRA from an old 401k? I thought that complicates the backdoor strategy?
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Zoe Dimitriou
•Good catch! You're absolutely right. The pro-rata rule would indeed apply if there are existing pre-tax IRA balances (including rollover IRAs). In this case, since they mentioned having a Rollover IRA, they would need to consider the total value of all traditional, SEP, and SIMPLE IRAs when calculating how much of their conversion would be taxable. If the Rollover IRA contains a significant amount, it could make the backdoor Roth less attractive from a tax perspective. A potential strategy could be to see if their current employer's 401(k) allows for incoming rollovers from IRAs. If so, they could roll the Rollover IRA into their current 401(k) before doing the backdoor Roth, which would eliminate the pro-rata issue.
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Jamal Anderson
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•Did they help with actually submitting the paperwork to Vanguard? That's what I'm most confused about - how to actually execute the withdrawal or recharacterization.
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Fatima Al-Hashemi
Something nobody has mentioned yet - check if your 401k allows for "mega backdoor Roth" contributions! I was in a similar situation and discovered my company plan allows after-tax contributions that can be converted to Roth. Since the after-tax 401k contribution limits are much higher than IRA limits, I was able to redirect my retirement savings there instead of worrying about the Roth IRA income limits. Worth checking if your plan offers this!
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Andre Lefebvre
•I've heard about mega backdoor Roth but wasn't sure how it worked. Does this mean I could keep my existing Roth IRA contribution and just do additional savings through the 401k after-tax option? Or would I still need to deal with my over-contribution issue first?
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Fatima Al-Hashemi
•You would still need to address your over-contribution issue first. The mega backdoor Roth through your 401k is a separate strategy that doesn't fix your current Roth IRA problem. To do the mega backdoor, your 401k plan needs to allow three specific things: 1) after-tax contributions (beyond the normal $23,000 limit), 2) in-plan Roth conversions, and 3) either in-service distributions or in-plan rollovers. Not all plans offer these features, so you'd need to check with your HR department or plan administrator.
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Dylan Mitchell
Worth mentioning that the timing for recharacterization or removal is important. You have until your tax filing deadline INCLUDING EXTENSIONS to fix this - even if you don't actually file an extension. So for 2025 taxes (for the 2024 tax year), that gives you until October 15, 2025. But don't wait until the last minute because the financial institutions can take time to process these requests!
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Sofia Martinez
•Does this mean that even if I file my taxes in February 2025, I still have until October 15th to fix an overcontribution from 2024?
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Amara Nnamani
•Yes, exactly! Even if you file your taxes early in February, you still have until October 15th to correct overcontributions from the previous tax year. This is because the IRS allows corrections up to the extended deadline regardless of when you actually file. However, there's an important caveat - if you already filed your return and claimed the Roth IRA contribution on it, you'll need to file an amended return (Form 1040X) after you make the correction. So it's definitely easier to handle the recharacterization or removal before you file your taxes if possible.
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Dmitry Smirnov
Just want to add one more consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're considering the recharacterization route, make sure to factor in your state tax situation too. Some states don't allow deductions for Traditional IRA contributions, so even though you'd get the federal deduction, you might still owe state taxes on the contribution. Also, regarding your concern about potentially overcontributing for 2024 - with a MAGI of $135,000, you would have been eligible for a reduced contribution of about $4,600 (not the full $6,500). So you'll likely need to address that excess too. The good news is you can handle both years' corrections at the same time with your broker. One tip from my experience: when you call Vanguard, ask specifically for their "retirement specialists" rather than general customer service. They're much more knowledgeable about these types of contribution corrections and can walk you through exactly what forms you'll need and how it will be reported on your 1099-R.
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Noland Curtis
•Thanks for the state tax insight - that's something I hadn't even considered! I'm in Texas so no state income tax to worry about, but good point for others reading this. Really appreciate the tip about asking for Vanguard's retirement specialists too. I called their general line yesterday and the rep seemed unsure about some of the details. I'll definitely ask to be transferred to someone who handles these corrections regularly. One question about handling both years at once - do I need separate forms for the 2024 and 2025 corrections, or can Vanguard process them together? Want to make sure I don't mess up the paperwork side of this.
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