Did I botch my 2023 Roth Backdoor? How do I handle Form 8606 and potential taxes on the conversion?
So I think I messed up my Roth Backdoor last year and I'm not sure what to do now. Here's what happened - around June 2023, I put $6,200 into a Traditional IRA account. I intended to immediately convert it to a Roth IRA (backdoor method) since my income was over the direct contribution limit. But then life got crazy - I switched jobs, moved to a new city, and completely forgot about the conversion part! I just realized yesterday that the money has been sitting in the Traditional IRA earning interest for over 6 months. It's now worth about $6,580. I'm really confused about what to do now. Do I still convert it to a Roth? Will I have to pay taxes on the whole amount or just the earnings? I know I need to fill out Form 8606, but I'm not sure how to report this since I didn't complete the backdoor process in the same tax year as the contribution. Can someone please explain if I've completely messed this up and what my options are now? I'm preparing my taxes and getting anxious about doing this wrong. Thanks!!
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Mateo Hernandez
You haven't messed up your backdoor Roth at all! This is actually a pretty common situation. You can still do the conversion now - there's no requirement that the conversion happen in the same tax year as the contribution. Here's what you need to do: Go ahead and convert the entire Traditional IRA amount to your Roth IRA now. Since you made a non-deductible contribution to your Traditional IRA (assuming you didn't take a deduction on your 2023 taxes), you'll only owe taxes on the earnings ($380). The original $6,200 contribution has already been taxed. For tax reporting, you'll need to file Form 8606 for both 2023 (to report the non-deductible contribution) and 2024 (to report the conversion). On your 2024 taxes, you'll pay ordinary income tax on just the $380 of earnings. The good news is that this is a pretty easy fix and a common situation. The IRS doesn't impose any deadline for converting traditional IRA funds to Roth.
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Aisha Khan
•Thanks for the info! Quick question - what if OP actually DID claim a deduction for the Traditional IRA contribution on their 2023 taxes? Would they need to file an amendment or could they just handle it differently on this year's taxes?
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Mateo Hernandez
•If they claimed a deduction for the Traditional IRA contribution on their 2023 taxes, then they would indeed need to handle it differently. They would have two options. They could file an amended 2023 return (Form 1040-X) to remove the deduction, essentially treating it as a non-deductible contribution as I described above. This would be the cleaner approach and would allow them to only pay tax on the earnings when they convert. Alternatively, if they keep the deduction, they'd need to include the entire converted amount ($6,580) as taxable income on their 2024 return when they do the conversion. This means paying taxes on both the original contribution and the earnings, essentially "undoing" the benefit of the deduction they took.
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Ethan Taylor
I was in exactly the same situation last year and found taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) super helpful for figuring out my backdoor Roth mess. I uploaded my statements and it analyzed my contribution/conversion timeline and told me exactly what to do with Form 8606. The key thing I learned is that you don't need to panic about the timing - you can do the conversion now. But the tax reporting gets a little complicated because you need to track the non-deductible basis across tax years. The tool helped me figure out exactly what numbers needed to go where on the forms.
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Yuki Ito
•Does this tool also help with figuring out if you have existing pre-tax money in other IRAs? I heard that complicates backdoor Roths because of the pro-rata rule? I'm thinking of doing this but I have an old rollover IRA from a previous job.
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Carmen Lopez
•I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How does it actually know what's considered non-deductible vs deductible? Did you have to input a bunch of info about your income and filing status first?
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Ethan Taylor
•Yes! It actually has a specific section for the pro-rata rule. When you upload your statements, it identifies all your IRA accounts and calculates the taxable portion based on your pre-tax and after-tax balances across all IRAs. It saved me from making a huge mistake with my rollover IRA. Regarding how it knows what's deductible - you do need to answer some basic questions about your income and filing status, but it's pretty streamlined. It uses that info to determine if you're over the income limits for deductible contributions. But the real value was in how it tracked my basis and generated the proper entries for Form 8606. It even explained the calculations so I understood what was happening.
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Carmen Lopez
Ok so I was skeptical about taxr.ai but I actually tried it after posting here and I'm genuinely surprised. It picked up on something I completely missed - I had a small traditional IRA from years ago that would have triggered the pro-rata rule on my backdoor conversion. The tool recommended I roll that old IRA into my current employer's 401k before doing the conversion to avoid the pro-rata calculation altogether. This saved me from paying taxes on a much larger amount. It also created a custom 8606 worksheet showing exactly what numbers to put where, which was way clearer than the IRS instructions. For anyone confused about backdoor Roths like I was, it was actually super helpful. I'm usually pretty hesitant with tax tools but this one knew its stuff about Roth conversions.
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AstroAdventurer
If you're still having issues figuring this out, you might want to get actual help from the IRS directly. I had a similar issue with Form 8606 last year and spent DAYS trying to get through to someone. Finally used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and got connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold forever. They have a demo of how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent walked me through exactly how to fill out the form correctly for my backdoor Roth and confirmed I was only liable for taxes on the earnings portion. Having that direct confirmation from the IRS gave me peace of mind that I wasn't missing anything or setting myself up for an audit.
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Andre Dupont
•Wait, how does this actually work? They somehow get you to the front of the IRS phone queue? That sounds too good to be true...
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Zoe Papanikolaou
•I called the IRS three times last month and got through just fine without paying anyone. This sounds like a scam to me. Why would you pay some company when you can just call early in the morning and get through?
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AstroAdventurer
•It's actually pretty straightforward - they use an automated system that calls the IRS repeatedly until they get through, then they call you and connect you. It's like having someone sit on hold for you. When they get through, your phone rings and you're connected to the IRS agent who's already on the line. I had tried calling early in the morning multiple times with no luck. Maybe you got lucky, but during tax season the wait times can be 2+ hours if you get through at all. I've been hung up on after waiting an hour more than once. For me, it was worth it to not waste half a day on hold, especially when I needed specific guidance on Form 8606 that could potentially save me from paying unnecessary taxes.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
Ok I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try calling the IRS myself again about my own backdoor Roth question... and spent 2.5 hours on hold before getting disconnected. Got frustrated and tried the service. Got connected to an IRS rep in 22 minutes and got my 8606 questions answered completely. The agent confirmed that I had messed up my own backdoor process but showed me how to correct it on this year's return without needing to amend last year's taxes. For anyone dealing with backdoor Roth conversion questions, getting direct answers from the IRS was actually really valuable. The agent even emailed me some documentation about non-deductible contributions that clarified everything. I'm still shocked I got through so quickly during peak tax season.
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Jamal Wilson
Remember that if you have ANY other traditional IRA money (like old 401k rollovers), the backdoor Roth gets much more complicated because of the pro-rata rule. The IRS doesn't let you just convert the non-deductible contribution - you have to convert proportionally from all your IRA balances. For example, if you have $50,000 in traditional IRA money from an old 401k rollover, and then you add $6,200 non-deductible for your backdoor, you can't just convert the $6,200. The conversion would be considered to come proportionally from both sources, so most of it would be taxable. Many people overlook this and get hit with unexpected taxes. One workaround is to roll any existing traditional IRA funds into your current employer's 401k (if they allow it) before doing the backdoor.
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NebulaNova
•Thanks for mentioning this! I should have included this detail in my original post - I don't have any other traditional IRA accounts, so thankfully the pro-rata rule won't be an issue for me. It's just this one contribution that I need to handle correctly. But that's a really important point for others considering the backdoor Roth method. The pro-rata rule can definitely complicate things if you have existing IRA balances.
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Jamal Wilson
•Glad to hear you don't have other IRA balances! That makes your situation much simpler. Just proceed with the conversion now, and be sure to file Form 8606 for both tax years as others have mentioned. Since this is your only IRA, you'll only pay tax on the earnings portion ($380). Make sure to keep good records of this conversion for future reference, as you'll need to track your basis if you do more backdoor Roth conversions in the future.
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Mei Lin
Just to add one more thing about Form 8606 - make sure you don't miss filing it for BOTH years. I forgot to file it the year I made my non-deductible contribution (only filed it the year I did the conversion) and it caused a huge headache. The IRS sent me a letter questioning the conversion, and I had to provide extra documentation proving the original contribution was non-deductible. Save yourself the trouble and make sure you file Form 8606 for 2023 (reporting the non-deductible contribution) and then again for 2024 (reporting the conversion).
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Is there a penalty for filing Form 8606 late? I just realized I should have filed it last year for a non-deductible contribution but didn't.
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