Understanding 1099-R State Taxes Withheld for Roth Conversion - Reporting a Distribution with Empty Box 14 and 16
Just completed my in-plan Roth conversion for the 2024 tax year and received my 1099-R. I'm scratching my head about the state tax reporting. Here's my situation: I had a traditional IRA with only after-tax contributions (all tracked on Form 8606, no deductions taken). Before doing the Roth conversion, I was smart enough to roll over just the pre-tax growth portion to my employer's plan. Got a separate 1099-R for that transaction too. Now I'm looking at the 1099-R for the actual Roth conversion transaction, and I notice something weird. Box 15 shows my state and ID number, but boxes 14 and 16 (state tax withheld and state distribution amount) are both empty/zero. My question is: When filing my state taxes, do I still need to report the full conversion amount from Box 2, even though the 1099-R shows nothing in boxes 14 and 16? I'm worried about getting flagged if the state thinks I'm not reporting something that was reported to them by the financial institution. Anyone dealt with this before or know the right way to handle it?
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Derek Olson
What you're seeing is actually pretty common with Roth conversions of after-tax contributions. The form looks confusing, but here's what's happening: Your 1099-R is showing the federal reporting requirements, and since you properly rolled over the pre-tax (growth) portion before converting just your after-tax basis, there's technically no taxable distribution at the state level - which is why boxes 14 and 16 are empty. However, this doesn't necessarily mean you should skip reporting it. Most states require you to report the distribution even if it's not taxable. The safest approach is to include the full amount from Box 2 on your state return, then follow your state's specific instructions for how to report non-taxable retirement distributions. Usually, you'll list the full amount, then subtract it on another line or schedule as a non-taxable distribution. This way, the state can match the 1099-R they received with what you're reporting, but you won't pay taxes on money that shouldn't be taxed.
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Danielle Mays
•Thanks, that makes sense, but I'm still not clear. If my state (California) received a 1099-R with nothing in box 16, wouldn't they be expecting me to report $0 as well? I'm worried reporting the full Box 2 amount might trigger some kind of mismatch in their system. Does the IRA provider even send the 1099-R to the state if boxes 14 and 16 are empty?
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Derek Olson
•The financial institution will still send the 1099-R information to the state even with boxes 14 and 16 being empty. What's important is that Box 15 has your state identified, which indicates they're reporting the transaction to that state. California specifically requires reporting of all distributions regardless of taxability. You'll report the full amount on your CA return, then follow the instructions for Schedule CA to properly identify the non-taxable portion. This prevents any potential mismatch flags because the state will see you acknowledged the transaction occurred, but you're correctly identifying it as non-taxable due to it being after-tax contributions.
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Roger Romero
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Niko Ramsey
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•How does this actually work? Like, do they just call for you or something? I've been trying to reach the IRS for 3 days about my 1099-R issue.
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Kristin Frank
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Kristin Frank
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Micah Trail
I've had this exact situation before with Roth conversions. The key thing to understand is that Box 15 (which shows your state code) is what tells you the distribution was reported to your state, even when boxes 14 and 16 are blank. Most states follow federal treatment for retirement distributions, but there can be differences. For the 8606 tracked contributions (non-deductible basis), the conversion should be non-taxable at both federal and state levels. When preparing your state return, you'll generally need to: 1. Report the distribution amount 2. Then identify the portion that's not taxable at the state level 3. Complete any state-specific schedules for retirement income This approach ensures your return matches what the state received from the IRA custodian.
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Nia Watson
•What if my 1099-R shows a taxable amount in Box 2a even though these were after-tax contributions? My understanding was that the conversion of after-tax contributions shouldn't be taxable, but my form shows otherwise. Did the custodian mess up?
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Micah Trail
•If your 1099-R shows a taxable amount in Box 2a for after-tax contributions, there could be a few explanations. The most common is that the custodian doesn't have records of your basis (the after-tax contributions you made), which is why tracking with Form 8606 is so important. In this case, you'd still report what's on the 1099-R, but you'd use Form 8606 to calculate and show the correct taxable amount (which could be zero if these were truly all after-tax contributions with no earnings). The 8606 essentially overrides what's reported in Box 2a when you've properly tracked your basis.
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Alberto Souchard
Just want to clarify something important that nobody mentioned yet - the distribution code in Box 7 of your 1099-R matters a lot for how this gets reported! What code is shown on your form? If it's code G (Direct Rollover), the state reporting is handled differently than if it's code 7 (Normal Distribution) or 2 (Early Distribution).
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Katherine Shultz
•Good point! I had a similar situation and my Box 7 showed code 2 even though it was a Roth conversion. Apparently my provider coded it as an early distribution rather than a rollover or conversion. Does that change how it should be reported at the state level?
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Malik Johnson
I just went through this exact scenario last month with my Roth conversion. Here's what I learned after consulting with my tax preparer: The empty boxes 14 and 16 are actually correct for your situation. Since you properly separated the pre-tax growth (rolled to employer plan) from the after-tax contributions (converted to Roth), there's no state tax withholding needed on the conversion portion. However, you absolutely DO need to report this on your state return. The fact that Box 15 shows your state code means the transaction was reported to your state tax authority. Here's the process: 1. Report the full Box 2 amount as a retirement distribution 2. Use your state's equivalent of the federal Form 8606 to show this was from after-tax contributions 3. The distribution will be reported but marked as non-taxable I made the mistake of not reporting it initially because the boxes were empty, and I got a notice from my state asking about the "unreported" distribution they had on file. Had to file an amended return to fix it. Your strategy of rolling the growth portion to your employer plan first was smart - it made the conversion much cleaner from a tax perspective!
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