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Arnav Bengali

401k to Roth IRA conversion 1099-R form showing $0 in taxable amount box 2a - is this correct?

I recently did a traditional 401k to Roth IRA conversion and am totally confused about the 1099-R I received. The form shows $0 in the taxable amount box 2a. The "Taxable amount not determined" box is NOT checked, but "Total distribution" IS checked in box 2b. All of boxes 3-6 are completely blank. The distribution code is G. Here's where I'm really scratching my head - when I enter this information exactly as it appears on the form into various tax software programs (tried three different ones), none of them are marking this distribution as taxable income. That seems wrong to me since I thought Roth conversions are generally taxable? Do I need to contact the plan administrator and have them correct this on their end before I file? Or can I just override what's on the form and input the gross distribution amount in box 2a myself? I'm trying to avoid getting into trouble with the IRS because this seems like the kind of thing that would trigger an audit. Or am I completely misunderstanding how this type of conversion works tax-wise? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Sayid Hassan

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You're right to question this! When you convert from a traditional 401k to a Roth IRA, it should generally be a taxable event because you're moving from pre-tax to post-tax money. The distribution code G indicates a direct rollover from a qualified plan to a Roth IRA, which confirms the type of transaction you did. However, the $0 in box 2a is suspicious. The plan administrator should have included the taxable amount there, which is typically the full amount of the conversion (unless you had non-deductible contributions in your 401k). While you could manually override this in your tax software, I'd recommend contacting the plan administrator first to request a corrected 1099-R. This creates a paper trail showing you tried to get the correct documentation. If they refuse or delay, then yes, you can report the full amount as taxable on your return with an explanation. What you definitely don't want to do is file with the incorrect information, as the IRS will likely catch this discrepancy eventually.

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Rachel Tao

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So does that mean even if the 1099-R shows $0 taxable amount, the IRS systems will expect to see the full conversion amount reported as income? Wouldn't it be a red flag if what I report doesn't match the form they received from the plan administrator?

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Sayid Hassan

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Yes, the IRS systems will expect to see the full conversion amount reported as income, and they reconcile information from various sources. That's exactly why contacting the administrator for a corrected form is the best first step. If you need to report it correctly despite having an incorrect form, include Form 8606 with your return to show the calculation of taxable amounts and possibly include a brief explanation statement. The IRS is actually more concerned with underreporting income than overreporting, so you're less likely to trigger problems by reporting more taxable income than what's shown on the form.

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Roger Romero

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Did they tell you whether to report it anyway even with the wrong form? I'm in a similar situation but my plan administrator is taking forever to send a corrected form and the tax deadline is coming up fast.

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Jabari-Jo

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An important point nobody's mentioned yet - double-check if you made any non-deductible contributions to your traditional 401k. If you did, part of your conversion might actually be non-taxable. You would need to file Form 8606 to calculate the taxable portion. The pro-rata rule applies here, which means you have to consider all your IRA balances when determining how much of the conversion is taxable.

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Kristin Frank

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Wait, I thought non-deductible contributions only applied to traditional IRAs, not 401ks? Can you really make non-deductible contributions to a 401k that would change the tax treatment on conversion?

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Jabari-Jo

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You're right that traditional 401ks are generally all pre-tax money (with the exception of after-tax contributions, which are different from Roth 401k contributions). After-tax contributions to a 401k are not common but do exist in some plans. These would be contributions above the pre-tax contribution limit but below the overall annual addition limit. These after-tax contributions would not be taxed again when converted. However, most people don't have after-tax contributions in their 401ks, so the entire conversion amount is typically taxable. Still worth checking your 401k statements to confirm.

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Micah Trail

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Omg I'm going through literally the exact same thing! My 1099-R from Fidelity has a 0 in box 2a for my Roth conversion. Called them and they insist the form is correct and said "the receiving institution needs to determine the taxable amount." Has anyone successfully gotten their form corrected? I'm losing my mind over this!

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Nia Watson

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I had the same issue with Fidelity. Their explanation is technically correct - the distributing plan doesn't always have visibility into your tax basis. But it's super unhelpful. I ended up using the full amount as taxable on my return (Form 8606 helped sort it out) and didn't have any issues. If you're using tax software, just override the default and enter the full amount as taxable.

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Remember that the IRS gets a copy of your 1099-R, so even if you correctly report the taxable amount on your return, their automated matching system might flag the discrepancy. I'd definitely include an explanation statement with your return if the form isn't corrected. Something like: "The amount reported as taxable on line X reflects the correct taxable portion of my Traditional 401k to Roth IRA conversion, despite the distributing institution incorrectly reporting $0 in box 2a of Form 1099-R. Multiple attempts to obtain a corrected form were unsuccessful.

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Does anyone know how to attach an explanation to an e-filed return? Is there a specific form for this or is it just an attachment you add?

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Most tax software has an option to include a statement or explanation with your e-filed return. In TurboTax, look for something like "Miscellaneous Forms" or "Statements" in the forms search. In H&R Block software, it's under "Miscellaneous Forms" as well. If you can't find it, you can also use Form 8275 "Disclosure Statement" for more complex situations, though that might be overkill for this issue. The key is making sure you properly report the correct taxable amount and documenting your good-faith effort to comply with tax laws despite receiving incorrect forms.

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