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1099R - Two forms with different distribution codes - help understanding Roth rollover

I'm in my late 20s and honestly clueless about retirement accounts and tax forms, so please bear with me. I switched jobs last fall and decided to roll over my previous employer's 401K into a Roth IRA. I finally received my 1099R forms, but I'm confused because I got TWO different ones instead of just one like I expected. The first 1099R shows about 80% of my total rollover amount with $0 withheld for Federal taxes and has some distribution code on it. The second form shows the remaining 20% of my rollover amount but has a completely different distribution code. I don't understand why I received two separate forms with different codes when it was all just one rollover transaction. Can someone explain what these different distribution codes mean and if I need to report them differently on my taxes? I'm using TurboTax and not sure if I should be entering both forms separately or combining them somehow. I really don't want to mess this up and trigger an audit or something!

The reason you received two 1099-R forms with different distribution codes is because you rolled over a Traditional 401(k) into a Roth IRA, which is called a "conversion." Since these are different types of accounts (pre-tax vs. after-tax), the IRS treats this as two separate transactions. The first form showing 80% of your funds with $0 withheld likely has a code "G" distribution code, indicating a direct rollover. The second form with the remaining 20% probably has a different code (possibly a "1" or "7") because this portion might have been withheld for taxes since you're converting from a pre-tax account to an after-tax Roth account. When you convert traditional retirement funds to Roth, you generally need to pay income tax on the converted amount. You'll need to enter both 1099-R forms separately in TurboTax, exactly as they appear. The software will guide you through the process and calculate any tax implications.

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Thanks for the explanation. I looked at both forms again and you're right - the first one has code G and the second one has code 7. So does this mean I'll owe taxes on that 20% amount? I wasn't expecting to pay any taxes since I thought rollovers were tax-free. Will this significantly impact my refund?

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You're welcome! Yes, you will owe taxes on the amount shown on the form with code 7. Rollovers between the same type of accounts (traditional to traditional or Roth to Roth) are generally tax-free, but when you convert from a traditional 401(k) to a Roth IRA, you're moving money from a pre-tax account to an after-tax account. The tax impact depends on your current income tax bracket. The converted amount (that 20%) gets added to your taxable income for the year. For example, if you're in the 22% tax bracket and converted $10,000, you might owe around $2,200 in additional taxes. TurboTax will calculate this precisely based on your complete tax situation.

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You should also check if any of your rollover was after-tax contributions. When I did my 401k to Roth conversion, I had both pre-tax and after-tax money in my 401k. The after-tax portion wasn't taxable again when converting to Roth. Check your 401k statements to see if you had any after-tax contributions - it could reduce what you owe.

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That's interesting, I didn't know there could be after-tax contributions in a 401k. How would I know if I had any? My old 401k statements just showed an overall balance but didn't break down what was pre-tax vs after-tax.

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You would need to look at your contribution history or call your previous 401k administrator. The year-end statements usually separate traditional pre-tax contributions from any after-tax contributions you made. Some employers allow after-tax contributions above the standard annual limits. If you made after-tax contributions, your administrator should have tracked this basis separately. You'll need to file Form 8606 with your tax return to report this. It's definitely worth checking - when I rolled over my 401k, about $12,000 was after-tax contributions that didn't get taxed again during the Roth conversion.

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This is exactly the kind of situation that trips up a lot of people! Don't worry, you're not alone in finding this confusing. The key thing to remember is that when you convert from a traditional 401k to a Roth IRA, you're essentially moving money from a pre-tax account (where you got a tax deduction when you contributed) to an after-tax account (where withdrawals in retirement are tax-free). The two different 1099-R forms with different distribution codes are the IRS's way of tracking the different parts of this transaction. Make sure to enter both forms exactly as they appear in TurboTax - the software is designed to handle this scenario and will walk you through it step by step. One tip: double-check if your employer withheld any federal taxes from the conversion. If they didn't withhold enough to cover the tax you'll owe on the conversion, you might want to make an estimated tax payment to avoid underpayment penalties. Good luck with your taxes!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the estimated tax payment part you mentioned. Since I'm using TurboTax, will it automatically calculate if I need to make an estimated payment, or do I need to figure that out myself? I'm worried about getting hit with penalties since this is my first time dealing with a Roth conversion and I had no idea it would create a tax liability.

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