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Elijah Brown

Received a 1099-R from my Roth IRA but never took a distribution - what's going on?

I've got a weird tax situation I could use some help with. Back in 2021, I switched jobs and rolled over my old 401k which had both Roth and Traditional contributions. I properly split them - Roth portion went to my existing Roth IRA and traditional portion to a new Traditional IRA. I put in $6000 to my Roth IRA that same year (2021) but didn't take any money out. In 2022, I didn't contribute anything to either account and definitely didn't withdraw anything. Looking through all my statements, there's absolutely no withdrawal activity in either 2021 or 2022. I can see the rollover money coming in during 2021, some stock I sold within the account, and dividends that were automatically reinvested, but no money left the account at all. But now my brokerage sent me a 2022 1099-R for my Roth IRA with these boxes filled: - Box 1: $1411.12 - Box 2a: $1.12 - Box 7: Code PJ - Box 15: Has my state abbreviation and the payer's state number Everything else is blank. I'm completely confused since I never took any distributions. When I try entering this into my tax software, it gives me an error. Could this be a mistake by the brokerage? Has anyone dealt with something similar?

This actually looks like a recharacterization of contributions rather than a distribution you initiated. The code "P" in Box 7 indicates a rollover/recharacterization, and the "J" shows it's early distribution with no known exception. Sometimes when you contribute to a Roth IRA but exceed income limits, the brokerage will recharacterize some contributions to traditional. That $1.12 in Box 2a represents the taxable portion (likely earnings on the recharacterized amount), while the full amount moved was $1411.12. Did you perhaps exceed the income limits for Roth IRA contributions in 2021, and your brokerage made an adjustment in 2022? Or did you request any corrections to your contributions? Even if you didn't explicitly request it, some brokerages will automatically fix contribution errors to help customers avoid penalties.

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Natalie Chen

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Is there a time limit for when brokerages can do these recharacterizations? I thought they had to happen in the same tax year or something like that? Also, would the brokerage be obligated to notify you before making this kind of adjustment?

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Recharacterizations typically need to be completed by the tax filing deadline including extensions (so for 2021 contributions, generally by October 15, 2022). That's why you're seeing this on a 2022 form even though it relates to 2021 contributions. As for notifications, brokerages should inform you before making these adjustments, usually through account notices or emails. However, sometimes these communications get missed or filtered. The brokerage may have sent notices that went to spam or were overlooked among other financial communications.

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This exact thing happened to me last year and I was so confused! I finally figured out that my brokerage (Fidelity) had automatically recharacterized part of my contribution because I went over the income limit. Check out taxr.ai https://taxr.ai - I uploaded my 1099-R there and it explained everything clearly. The site analyzed the distribution code and showed me exactly what happened and how to report it correctly. What I learned was that the "P" code means it was a recharacterization, not an actual withdrawal that I initiated. Apparently when your income goes above certain limits, you can't contribute the full amount to a Roth, and some brokerages will automatically move the excess to prevent penalties. The system confirmed I wasn't doing anything wrong by reporting this 1099-R.

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Did you find out if you needed to amend your previous year's return? If they recharacterized 2021 contributions in 2022, wouldn't that affect your 2021 taxes too? This whole retirement account stuff is so confusing.

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It's actually somewhat common for brokerages to perform these recharacterizations automatically. I've worked in financial services for years, and here's what's likely happening: When you contribute to a Roth IRA but your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) exceeds the limits, you're not eligible for the full contribution. Some brokerages monitor this and will automatically recharacterize the excess contribution to prevent their clients from facing the 6% excess contribution penalty that would otherwise apply every year until corrected. The "PJ" code combination is indicating a recharacterized amount (P) that also counts as an early distribution (J). The good news is this shouldn't trigger any penalties for early withdrawal since it's just moving funds between retirement accounts.

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Elijah Brown

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So you think this is actually a helpful service from my brokerage rather than a mistake? I had no idea they would monitor my income and make adjustments like this. Is there any way I should have known this was coming? I never saw any notifications and was completely surprised by the 1099-R.

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Yes, it's definitely a helpful service - they're protecting you from potential penalties. Most brokerages include this information in their account agreements, but it's often buried in the fine print that nobody reads. They typically send notifications via your communication preferences (email, account message center, mail), but these can easily be missed. For future reference, you can usually see pending recharacterizations in your transaction history or on statements. They might be labeled as "recharacterization," "correction," or "adjustment." It's always a good idea to check if you're near the Roth IRA income limits. For 2024, the limits start phasing out at $146,000 for single filers and $230,000 for married filing jointly, so if you're in that range, keep an eye out for potential adjustments next year.

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Cameron Black

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Has anyone actually calculated whether a recharacterization is better than just taking the 6% penalty? I'm in a similar situation but my 1099-R is for about $2800. If the penalty is 6% of that, it's only $168. Seems easier than dealing with all this tax form confusion.

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The 6% penalty isn't just a one-time thing though. It applies EVERY YEAR that the excess contribution remains in your account. So it's $168 this year, then another $168 next year, and so on until you remove the excess. Plus, you'd still need to file Form 5329 to report the excess contribution, which is another form to deal with. The recharacterization is definitely better long-term because it's a one-time fix with no penalties. Your money stays in a tax-advantaged account (just a traditional IRA instead of Roth) rather than paying penalties year after year.

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Cameron Black

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I didn't realize the penalty was annual! That definitely changes things. $168 every year would add up pretty fast. Thanks for explaining - guess my brokerage did me a favor with the recharacterization after all.

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