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Has anyone here tried using a sales tax compliance software like Avalara or TaxJar? I'm debating whether it's worth the monthly cost for my small business or if I should just handle it manually until I grow bigger.
I use TaxJar for my online shop (about $60k/year in sales). It's definitely an expense but saves me tons of time. The automated filing feature is worth every penny during tax season. I tried doing it manually for the first year and spent entire weekends just on sales tax returns.
If you're just starting out, might be overkill. I use a spreadsheet to track sales by state, and only file in 3 states currently. Once you hit 5+ states, the software becomes more worth it. A middle ground could be using something like taxr.ai to monitor your nexus thresholds, then switching to automated filing software once you have multiple state obligations.
One thing nobody mentioned yet is the difference between origin-based and destination-based sales tax. Some states (like Texas) are origin-based, meaning you charge the tax rate of your location. Most states are destination-based, meaning you charge the rate of your customer's address. Makes a huge difference in how you set up your shopping cart! Just when you think you understand sales tax, there's always another layer of complexity...
Ugh, seriously?? I didn't even know there was a difference! My shopping cart on my website just has a flat tax rate setting. Sounds like I need to look into tax calculation plugins. Does anyone know if Shopify handles this automatically or do I need additional apps?
Shopify has basic tax calculation built in, but it's not perfect for complex situations. They automatically calculate rates based on customer address, but if you need more sophisticated rules (like product-specific exemptions or detailed nexus settings), you might want a tax app like TaxJar or Avalara's integration. The basic Shopify tax settings work fine for most small sellers though!
Don't forget to check if you're subject to the estimated tax penalty! If your withholding + quarterly payments don't cover enough of your total tax liability, you could face penalties. One thing I do every December is make an extra state tax payment before Dec 31st, which I can then deduct on my federal return for the current year (if I'm itemizing). Also check if making an extra mortgage payment in December gives you more interest to deduct. And don't overlook adjusting your W-4 for next year now, especially with your business income fluctuating.
Thank you for mentioning estimated tax penalties - I hadn't even thought about that! Do you know what percentage of my total tax liability I need to have covered through withholding/payments to avoid the penalty? Also, is the mortgage interest deduction still worth it with the higher standard deduction? We pay about $1,300/month in mortgage interest.
Generally, you need to have paid at least 90% of your current year tax liability or 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) through withholding and estimated payments to avoid the penalty. Since you mentioned both employment and business income, you'll want to calculate this carefully. With the mortgage interest, it depends on your total itemized deductions. At $1,300/month, that's $15,600 annually. For 2024, the standard deduction for married filing jointly is $29,200. So unless your other itemizable deductions (state/local taxes up to $10,000, charitable contributions, etc.) push you over that threshold, the mortgage interest alone won't make itemizing worthwhile. But if you're close to that threshold, making strategic charitable donations could tip you over to where itemizing makes sense.
Has anyone tried "income splitting" between tax years? My accountant suggested I could invoice some clients in January instead of December to push that income to next year. Is that legit?
This is a legitimate strategy called "income timing" or "income shifting" - IF you're using cash basis accounting (which most small businesses do). You can delay sending December invoices until January to recognize that income in the next tax year. Just make sure you're consistent with your accounting method. The flip side is also true - you can accelerate deductions by making business purchases before December 31st rather than waiting until January. Just ensure whatever you purchase is actually needed for your business and isn't just spending money to save on taxes (which rarely makes financial sense).
Just to add a practical tip: Even if you're nowhere near the lifetime exemption limit, you still need to file Form 709 if you give anyone more than the annual exclusion amount ($17,000 in 2023). This creates a record of using your lifetime exemption. I learned this the hard way after making a down payment gift for my same-age cousin's house. I didn't file the form thinking I'd never approach the lifetime limit, but my accountant explained that failing to file the form is technically a violation even if no tax would ever be due.
Do you know what happens if you don't file the 709 form? Are there penalties? I gave my sister about $30k last year for medical bills and had no idea I needed to file anything since I'm nowhere near that lifetime limit.
There can definitely be penalties for not filing Form 709 when required, even if no tax is due. The standard penalty is 5% of the tax owed per month, up to 25%. But since you likely don't owe any actual tax (just needed to file the form), the penalty might be minimal or potentially zero if you can show reasonable cause. For your specific situation with your sister, you might actually qualify for a medical expense exception. Payments made directly to medical providers on someone else's behalf are exempt from gift tax and don't require filing. But if you gave the money directly to your sister who then paid the bills, that's technically a reportable gift. I'd recommend speaking with a tax professional about filing a late 709 to get compliant.
One important distinction: there are actually different types of "skips" in the gift tax world that might be causing confusion: 1. Generation-skipping transfers (gifts to grandchildren or others 37.5+ years younger) 2. Regular gifts (to anyone) that use your lifetime exemption 3. Annual exclusion gifts ($17k per person per year) The lifetime exemption applies to ALL taxable gifts regardless of recipient age, but there's an additional layer of rules (and potentially tax) if the gift is also generation-skipping.
Thank you for this clear breakdown! I was definitely mixing up the different concepts. So if I understand correctly, I can give gifts to anyone (younger, older, same age) and use my lifetime exemption, but there are extra rules if the person is much younger than me (like grandchildren)?
Exactly right! Your lifetime gift tax exemption ($12.92 million in 2023) applies to all taxable gifts regardless of the recipient's age. You can give to your spouse, sibling, friend, or anyone else and it works the same way for basic gift tax purposes. The generation-skipping transfer (GST) tax is an additional layer that only applies to gifts to people who are at least 37.5 years younger than you (or in a defined generational category like grandchildren). These transfers are potentially subject to both regular gift tax and GST tax, but there's a separate GST exemption amount (currently also $12.92 million) to offset this additional tax. This was designed to prevent wealthy families from skipping tax by bypassing a generation.
One practical tip that helped me with tax anxiety: tackle it in 15-minute chunks. I set a timer and forced myself to work on tax stuff for JUST 15 minutes, then take a break if I felt overwhelmed. Sometimes I could keep going after the timer went off, other times I needed to stop, but either way I was making progress. Also, create a separate email folder for all tax-related communication and keep all your tax documents in one physical folder. Half my stress came from feeling disorganized and afraid I'd lose important papers. Finally, calculate your proper withholding for next year using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator. This prevents future surprises. You can adjust your W-4 with your employer to have more taken out each paycheck.
This is brilliant advice about the 15-minute chunks. I've been completely avoiding my tax situation because it feels too overwhelming. Breaking it down like this might actually help me start tackling it. Do you think it's better to start with organizing documents first or jumping straight into the payment plan applications?
I definitely recommend starting with organizing your documents first. Gather everything you have - tax returns, notices from the IRS, pay stubs, bank statements, bills, etc. Just having everything in one place reduces the mental load significantly. Once you have your documents organized, then use a 15-minute session to read through any notices carefully and make notes about what you need to do next. This makes the payment plan application process much smoother because you'll have all the information readily available when filling out forms or talking to representatives.
One thing that helped me with the physical symptoms of tax anxiety was establishing a specific "tax time" routine. I'd make my favorite tea, put on comfortable clothes, and have a friend on standby for moral support via text. Something about having this little ritual made it feel more manageable. Also, for figuring out that "sweet spot" income level - talk to a free tax preparer at a VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) site. They helped me understand my tax bracket thresholds and how much I should set aside from each paycheck. Makes a huge difference in avoiding future surprises.
The tea ritual sounds helpful but where do you find these VITA people? Are they only available during tax season or can you talk to them year-round for planning purposes?
Lincoln Ramiro
Just FYI for anyone confused - even if you don't get a 1099-K because you're under the $5000 threshold, you still need to report the income if it was business income (like if you bought stuff intending to resell it for profit). But if you're just selling your own personal items for less than you originally paid, that's generally not taxable income. I learned this the hard way last year when I overpaid on taxes because I reported everything from my PayPal.
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Faith Kingston
ā¢How do you prove something was a personal item vs inventory if you get audited though? I sell a mix of both and don't keep great records.
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Lincoln Ramiro
ā¢This is definitely a tricky area. For personal items, having original receipts or some documentation of what you initially paid would be ideal, but I know that's not always realistic. What I do now is keep a simple spreadsheet where I note which items are from my personal collection (with approximate purchase date and estimated original cost) versus items I bought specifically to resell. I also take photos of all personal items before listing them, which shows they were used. For business inventory, I keep all receipts and store them separately. Even basic documentation like this can help support your case if questions ever come up.
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Emma Johnson
Does anyone know if the payment apps will still send out 1099-Ks at the $600 threshold anyway, even though the IRS is using $5000? My Depop is linked to PayPal and I've made about $2300 this year.
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Liam Brown
ā¢My accountant said some payment platforms might still send them at $600 because their systems were already updated for that threshold before the IRS made the change. He said to just keep good records either way.
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