IRS anxiety overwhelms me - which tax payment to tackle first (federal or state)?
I'm absolutely drowning in tax anxiety right now. I have just a few days left to set up payment plans for both state and federal taxes, and I'm completely paralyzed by fear. My situation got worse because I earned more income this year, which pushed me into a mess with my tax liability. Every time I try to figure out whether to tackle the federal or state payment setup first, I literally get physically ill - dizzy, nauseous, the works. Then I just abandon the whole thing. I'm at the point where I'm calculating how to earn just enough to cover my basic bills and keep my cat fed properly (even if I have to skip meals occasionally). Making more money this year only created this nightmare. How do I calculate that sweet spot income so I don't end up in this situation again? Thanks for any help. My anxiety is through the roof, and I'm utterly exhausted. UPDATE: Thank you everyone for the advice. Work suddenly dumped 20 hours on me this weekend, so I was completely wiped out. Trying to start the Oregon payment setup today and will update. UPDATE 2: This is complete insanity! I gave up on the state payment after getting confused by their instructions and decided to try the federal IRS setup. Spent THREE HOURS just trying to get "verified" - something they never care about when they're demanding money! Had to dig up documents I haven't seen in forever like my original Social Security card (found it by sheer luck), deal with camera verification, and jump through endless hoops just to PAY THEM. No wonder everyone hates dealing with the IRS. I'm literally shaking right now. Do they think being poor makes you a criminal? I've filed with them for years without this verification nightmare, even during stimulus payments. I'm too upset to continue tonight - will try again tomorrow. So much for their "simple" process!
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Kai Santiago
Try not to panic - this is definitely manageable even though it feels overwhelming right now. The good news is that both the IRS and state tax agencies have procedures specifically for people in your situation. For which to do first - it honestly doesn't matter much. The federal and state systems are completely separate. However, since the IRS can be more intimidating and has more collection power, I'd suggest starting there. The IRS offers payment plans that are fairly straightforward to set up, and they have specific "Currently Not Collectible" status for genuine hardship cases. For managing your income going forward, the issue isn't earning more - it's planning for the tax liability. You might benefit from having taxes withheld at a higher rate or making quarterly estimated payments so you don't face a large bill at filing time. Remember that having tax debt doesn't make you a bad person. Millions of Americans struggle with this, and there are established pathways to resolution.
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Lim Wong
•Thanks for this information. I heard somewhere that the IRS automatically puts a lien on your property if you owe them. Is that true or just more scary tax mythology? Also, what counts as a "hardship case" - do I need to be literally homeless or is being unable to afford both taxes and basic living expenses enough?
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Kai Santiago
•The IRS doesn't automatically file tax liens anymore - that policy changed several years ago. They generally only file liens in specific circumstances, usually involving larger amounts or repeated non-payment. Most payment plans don't trigger liens if you stay current with the agreement. For hardship status (Currently Not Collectible), you don't need to be homeless. The IRS looks at your necessary living expenses versus your income. If paying your tax debt would prevent you from affording basic living expenses (housing, utilities, food, medical care, transportation to work), you may qualify. They use standardized allowances for different expense categories based on your location and household size.
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Dananyl Lear
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Noah huntAce420
•Does this actually work for state tax issues too? Or is it just for federal IRS problems? I'm dealing with both right now and the state is actually being more aggressive than the feds.
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Ana Rusula
•I'm suspicious of any service claiming to make dealing with the IRS easy. How much does this cost? There are so many tax relief scams out there charging thousands for what you can do yourself for free.
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Dananyl Lear
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Ana Rusula
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Fidel Carson
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Isaiah Sanders
•How does this actually work though? I don't understand how a service can hold my place in line with the IRS and then somehow transfer me in. Seems like the IRS wouldn't allow that kind of system manipulation.
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Xan Dae
•This sounds like complete nonsense. The IRS phone system is notoriously understaffed and impossible to navigate. I've tried calling dozens of times over the past two years about my audit and NEVER got through to anyone helpful. I highly doubt any service can magically solve this problem.
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Fidel Carson
•It's actually pretty straightforward how it works. The service calls the IRS and navigates the phone tree for you, then waits on hold. When an IRS representative answers, the service calls your phone and connects you directly to that representative. It's not manipulating anything - it's just waiting on hold so you don't have to. The IRS doesn't have any restrictions against this because from their perspective, it's just a regular call that's being transferred to you when an agent picks up. I was skeptical too until I tried it. The difference is you're not spending hours listening to that awful hold music and worrying if you'll get disconnected after waiting so long.
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Xan Dae
I have to publicly eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, my tax situation reached crisis level when I received a certified letter from the IRS threatening levy actions. In desperation, I tried the service, fully expecting it to be useless. To my complete shock, I got a call back within 45 minutes saying an IRS agent was on the line. In ONE PHONE CALL, I was able to set up a reasonable payment plan and stop the collection actions. The IRS agent even helped identify a mistake in my account that reduced what I owed by nearly $2,000. I'd spent literally months trying to get through on my own with no success. The relief of actually resolving this is indescribable. My blood pressure has probably dropped 20 points just from having this handled. For anyone dealing with tax anxiety like the original poster - getting a real person on the phone makes all the difference in the world.
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Fiona Gallagher
One practical tip that helped me with tax anxiety: tackle it in 15-minute chunks. I set a timer and forced myself to work on tax stuff for JUST 15 minutes, then take a break if I felt overwhelmed. Sometimes I could keep going after the timer went off, other times I needed to stop, but either way I was making progress. Also, create a separate email folder for all tax-related communication and keep all your tax documents in one physical folder. Half my stress came from feeling disorganized and afraid I'd lose important papers. Finally, calculate your proper withholding for next year using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator. This prevents future surprises. You can adjust your W-4 with your employer to have more taken out each paycheck.
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Thais Soares
•This is brilliant advice about the 15-minute chunks. I've been completely avoiding my tax situation because it feels too overwhelming. Breaking it down like this might actually help me start tackling it. Do you think it's better to start with organizing documents first or jumping straight into the payment plan applications?
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Fiona Gallagher
•I definitely recommend starting with organizing your documents first. Gather everything you have - tax returns, notices from the IRS, pay stubs, bank statements, bills, etc. Just having everything in one place reduces the mental load significantly. Once you have your documents organized, then use a 15-minute session to read through any notices carefully and make notes about what you need to do next. This makes the payment plan application process much smoother because you'll have all the information readily available when filling out forms or talking to representatives.
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Nalani Liu
One thing that helped me with the physical symptoms of tax anxiety was establishing a specific "tax time" routine. I'd make my favorite tea, put on comfortable clothes, and have a friend on standby for moral support via text. Something about having this little ritual made it feel more manageable. Also, for figuring out that "sweet spot" income level - talk to a free tax preparer at a VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) site. They helped me understand my tax bracket thresholds and how much I should set aside from each paycheck. Makes a huge difference in avoiding future surprises.
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Axel Bourke
•The tea ritual sounds helpful but where do you find these VITA people? Are they only available during tax season or can you talk to them year-round for planning purposes?
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