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Has anyone had success with trying tax attorneys to fix this sorta issue? I'm in a similar situation but I also have some self-employment income that complicates things and I'm worried about doing it wrong again.
I used a tax attorney last year for a similar situation with rejected returns AND self-employment complications. It cost about $1200 but was 100% worth it for the peace of mind. They handled everything, negotiated with the IRS on penalties, and even found deductions I'd missed that nearly covered their fee. Just make sure you find one who specializes in tax resolution, not just general tax preparation.
I just went through this exact nightmare last month! Like you, I had no idea my return was rejected and only found out when trying to file this year's taxes. The panic is real, but it's absolutely fixable. Here's what worked for me: First, I called the IRS directly (yes, it took multiple attempts and hours on hold) to confirm the rejection and understand exactly why it happened. In my case, it was also an AGI mismatch - turns out I had used my gross income instead of my adjusted gross income from the previous year. The IRS agent explained that since my return was never successfully filed, I'm considered a non-filer for that year. The good news is they have systems in place for this situation. I had to: 1. Refile the rejected return immediately using the correct AGI (I used $0 since my previous year's return was also rejected initially) 2. Request first-time penalty abatement since I had a clean compliance history 3. Set up a payment plan for the taxes owed plus minimal penalties The whole process took about 6 weeks to fully resolve, but the stress relief was immediate once I had a clear plan. Don't let the fear paralyze you - the IRS actually wants to help you get back into compliance. You've got this!
This is such a relief to read! I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation and the panic has been overwhelming. Quick question - when you called the IRS, did you need any specific information beyond your SSN to verify your identity? I'm worried they'll ask for details from the rejected return that I might not have readily available. Also, how did you know to request the first-time penalty abatement? Did the agent mention it or did you have to specifically ask for it?
ugh im in the same boat. been dealing with this for 2 months now. feels like im just spinning my wheels š«
I just went through this nightmare last month! If you haven't received any letters yet, definitely check your mail regularly - sometimes they take forever to arrive. In the meantime, try logging into your IRS account online to see if there are any notices there. Also, if you're expecting a refund, that's usually when they flag accounts for identity verification. The whole process is super frustrating but you'll get through it! Make sure to have all your documents ready before calling - it makes the process way smoother.
I'm really sorry you're going through such a difficult situation. You absolutely have the right to file your taxes even without your husband's cooperation. Here are your main options: **File Married Filing Separately (MFS):** You can file using only your own W-2 and income information. You don't need his documents at all for this option. Just be aware that MFS typically results in higher taxes and you'll lose certain credits and deductions. **Get his information directly from the IRS:** You can request a wage and income transcript that will show all income reported under his SSN. Call the IRS at 1-800-908-9946 or access it online through your IRS account. **Contact his employer:** As his spouse, you may have rights to request wage information directly from his HR department, especially if you've filed jointly before. **Don't miss the deadline:** It's better to file MFS now than face late filing penalties. You can always amend to joint later if you reconcile, but you can't go from joint to separate. **Document everything:** Save any texts or communications where he refuses to provide tax info - this could be important if you end up in divorce proceedings or need to claim innocent spouse relief later. Consider consulting with a tax professional who can help you understand the financial impact of filing separately versus jointly. You shouldn't have to sacrifice your financial wellbeing because your spouse won't cooperate with basic tax obligations.
This is such a thorough summary of all the options available! I really appreciate how you've laid everything out so clearly. One thing I wanted to add from my own experience - when you do request those wage and income transcripts from the IRS, make sure you request both the "Wage and Income Transcript" and the "Account Transcript" for the tax year. The wage transcript shows what employers reported, but the account transcript will show you if a return has already been filed under your SSN. This way you'll know immediately if your husband has already filed jointly using your information without permission, which unfortunately happens more often than people think in these situations. If that's the case, you'll need to file a paper return with a cover letter explaining the situation, and it becomes a whole different process. Better to know upfront what you're dealing with!
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this stressful situation on top of everything else you're going through in your marriage. What you're experiencing is unfortunately more common than you might think, and you definitely have options. The good news is that you can absolutely file without your husband's W-2 by choosing "Married Filing Separately" as your filing status. When you file separately, you only need to report your own income and can only claim your own deductions - no information from your husband required. Here's what you should know: **The downside:** Filing separately usually means you'll pay more in taxes than you would filing jointly, and you'll lose access to several tax benefits like education credits, child tax credit (or get a reduced amount), and the earned income credit. **The upside:** You can file on time, avoid penalties, and you're not dependent on your husband's cooperation. **Important:** Make sure you haven't already been included on a joint return. You can request a tax transcript from the IRS to see if anything has been filed under your SSN already. Don't let his refusal to cooperate force you into missing the filing deadline - that will just create more problems with penalties and interest. File separately now, and if your situation improves later, you can potentially amend to file jointly (though not the reverse). Consider consulting with a tax professional to understand exactly what the financial impact will be for your specific situation. You shouldn't have to be held hostage by someone else's unwillingness to share basic tax information.
This is really helpful advice, Connor! I'm curious about one thing you mentioned - when you say we can "potentially" amend to file jointly later, are there specific circumstances where that wouldn't be allowed? I know someone mentioned earlier that you can't go from joint to separate, but I want to make sure I understand all the limitations before I make this decision. Also, is there a time limit on how long you have to make that change? I'm hoping things might improve between us, but I don't want to count on something that might not be possible later on.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the impact on your parent's Social Security benefits if they're already receiving them. Since this income would be considered earned income, it could affect their Social Security benefits if they're under full retirement age. For 2024, if your parent is under full retirement age and receiving Social Security, they can earn up to $22,320 without any reduction in benefits. But if they earn more than that, Social Security will reduce their benefits by $1 for every $2 earned above the limit. This is something to factor into your payment calculations alongside the ACA subsidy impacts. Also, even though you're exempt from federal employment taxes, your parent might still want to consider making voluntary Social Security contributions if they're not already maxed out on their credits. They can do this by paying self-employment tax on the income (treating it as self-employment income instead of wages), which might be beneficial for their long-term Social Security benefits.
This is such an important point that I hadn't considered! My mom is 64 and receiving Social Security, so this could definitely impact her benefits. At $12,000 annually, she'd be well under the $22,320 limit, but it's good to know about that threshold. The voluntary Social Security contributions idea is interesting too. Would she report this as self-employment income on Schedule C instead of wages on line 1b if she wanted to make those contributions? And would that change any of the other tax implications we've been discussing? Also, does anyone know if the Social Security earnings limit applies to the total of ALL her earned income, or just the household employee wages? She makes about $28,000 from her part-time job plus the $12,000 I'd be paying her.
The Social Security earnings limit applies to ALL earned income, not just the household employee wages. So if your mom is making $28,000 from her part-time job plus $12,000 from childcare, that's $40,000 total - well above the $22,320 limit. This means her Social Security benefits would be reduced significantly. At $40,000 total earnings, she'd be $17,680 over the limit ($40,000 - $22,320). Social Security would reduce her benefits by $8,840 (half of the excess). This is a major consideration that could outweigh any benefits of the arrangement. Regarding the voluntary Social Security contributions - yes, she could potentially report this as self-employment income on Schedule C instead of wages on line 1b, which would subject it to self-employment tax (15.3%). However, this doesn't change the Social Security earnings limit calculation - self-employment income still counts toward that limit. The main benefit would be earning additional Social Security credits if she needs them for future benefit calculations. Given her current income level and Social Security status, you might want to recalculate whether this arrangement makes financial sense, or consider reducing either the childcare payments or her other work hours to stay under the earnings limit.
This is such a complex situation with multiple moving parts! I went through something similar when hiring my sister to watch my kids. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple decision matrix to weigh all the factors everyone's mentioned here. For your mom's situation specifically - earning $40,000 total with Social Security at 64 - the benefit reduction could be substantial as GalaxyGlider calculated. But remember this isn't necessarily "lost" money - it's more like forced savings. When she reaches full retirement age, Social Security will recalculate her benefits to account for the months they were reduced, which increases her future monthly payments. That said, you might want to consider a hybrid approach: maybe start with a lower payment amount (say $8,000 annually instead of $12,000) to keep her closer to the earnings limit, and supplement with non-cash benefits like covering her gas, providing meals, or other family support that isn't considered earned income. Also, definitely verify her current Social Security status - if she's already at full retirement age, the earnings limit doesn't apply at all, which would change the entire calculation!
This is really helpful advice about creating a decision matrix! The hybrid approach you mentioned is brilliant - I hadn't thought about supplementing with non-cash benefits. That could be a great way to provide additional value to my mom without pushing her over the Social Security earnings limit. Just to clarify on her age - she's 64, so definitely not at full retirement age yet. Full retirement age for her birth year would be around 66 years and 2-4 months, so we're still dealing with the earnings test. Your point about the reduced benefits being like "forced savings" is interesting, but I'm wondering about the cash flow impact in the meantime. If her monthly Social Security gets reduced by hundreds of dollars, that could create a real financial hardship even if it means higher future payments. The $8,000 payment idea might be the sweet spot - keeping her total at around $36,000, which would still trigger some benefit reduction but not as severe. Do you remember what other non-cash benefits you provided that didn't count as income? I'm thinking things like paying for her groceries when she's watching my daughter, or covering her phone bill since she uses it for our childcare coordination.
William Schwarz
Don't panic! I've been through this exact scenario multiple times. When SBTPG switches from "funded" to "unfunded" overnight, it almost always means they've completed processing and sent your refund to your bank. It's terrible wording on their part - "unfunded" sounds like disaster but it actually means "forwarded to your bank account." Since your deposit date is tomorrow, I'd expect to see the money in your account by tomorrow morning, possibly even tonight depending on your bank's processing schedule. The zero balance you're seeing is normal too - once they release the funds, their system resets. Keep checking your bank account and try not to stress. In my experience, the money shows up right on schedule even after this scary status change!
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Diego Vargas
ā¢This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm a newcomer here and was absolutely freaking out when I saw that status change this morning. The terminology really is terrible - who thought "unfunded" was a good way to describe "successfully forwarded to your bank"? š Your explanation makes so much sense and I feel way better now. I'll stop obsessively checking SBTPG and just watch my bank account instead. Thanks for taking the time to reassure a panicked newbie!
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Connor Byrne
As someone who's been through this exact situation before, I can totally understand the panic you're feeling right now! The "unfunded" status after seeing "funded" is actually SBTPG's confusing way of telling you they've successfully processed your refund and sent it to your bank. It's really poor terminology on their part - "unfunded" sounds like something went terribly wrong when it actually means "mission accomplished, money sent to your account." I went through the same heart attack last year and my money showed up exactly on schedule the next morning. The zero balance display is also normal - their system resets once they've released the funds. Try to breathe and check your bank account tomorrow morning. Based on everyone's experiences here, you should see your money right on time!
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Diego Vargas
ā¢Thank you so much for this reassuring explanation! As someone completely new to this whole tax refund process, I was honestly on the verge of tears when I saw that status change. The way you described it as "mission accomplished" instead of disaster really helps put it in perspective. I had no idea this was normal - I thought SBTPG had lost my money or something terrible happened overnight! It's crazy how poor their communication is. I'll definitely check my bank account first thing tomorrow and try to get some sleep tonight instead of refreshing the SBTPG page every 5 minutes. Really appreciate you taking the time to help calm down us newcomers who are experiencing this panic for the first time!
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