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Yara Assad

Discovered my tax preparer doesn't have a valid PTIN. Do I need to report this to the IRS?

I just found out something concerning about the person who's done my taxes for the last 3-4 years - they don't have a valid PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number). I'm just a regular client, not a tax professional myself, and I stumbled across this information accidentally. Now I'm really worried about what this might mean for my past tax returns. How serious is this issue? Is this something that happens frequently in the tax preparation world, or is this a major red flag? I'm debating whether I should report this to the IRS or someone else. Would my past returns be in jeopardy? Would appreciate any insight from people who might know more about this situation than I do.

Olivia Clark

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This is definitely concerning. A valid PTIN is required by law for anyone who prepares federal tax returns for compensation. The IRS requires all paid tax preparers to have a PTIN and renew it annually. This raises a few issues: First, your returns might not have been signed properly by the preparer (they're supposed to include their PTIN). Second, it suggests your preparer might not be keeping up with professional requirements, which could indicate they're not staying current on tax law changes either. You have a few options. You could start by asking your preparer about it directly - there might be an explanation (though I can't think of a good one). You could also file Form 14157 (Complaint: Tax Return Preparer) with the IRS to report the issue. The IRS can then investigate. As for your past returns, they're still legally your responsibility even if prepared incorrectly. If there are errors, you could potentially face penalties or interest, though the IRS might be lenient if you can show you relied on what you thought was a qualified professional.

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Would the IRS actually come after the taxpayer in a case like this? Seems pretty unfair if the client had no idea the preparer wasn't properly registered.

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Olivia Clark

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The IRS generally holds taxpayers responsible for what's on their return, regardless of who prepared it. That's why the signature line includes language that you're signing under penalties of perjury. However, the IRS does recognize when taxpayers act in good faith. If the returns were otherwise accurate and complete, you probably don't have much to worry about. The IRS is more interested in going after the preparer in these situations. They're the ones violating regulations by preparing returns without a valid PTIN.

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Does this actually work with the IRS? Like will they accept this as some kind of proof if you get audited or something?

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Amina Diallo

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Malik Jenkins

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I used to work in tax preparation (not an official advisor now). One thing to consider is whether your preparer has other credentials even if their PTIN isn't current. Are they a CPA or an Enrolled Agent? If so, they might have just let their PTIN lapse by accident while maintaining their other professional credentials and knowledge. Not excusing it - it's still a compliance failure on their part. But the real question is whether your returns were prepared accurately, not just whether they had the proper ID number when filing.

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Yara Assad

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Thanks for this perspective. They're not a CPA from what I know, just a local tax preparation business. Would it be appropriate to directly ask them about their PTIN status, or would that likely just cause them to get defensive?

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Malik Jenkins

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I think it's completely reasonable to ask them directly. A professional should be able to answer questions about their credentials without getting defensive. You might say something like, "I was researching tax preparers and learned about PTINs. Could you tell me about your credentials and PTIN status?" If they get extremely defensive or evasive, that's actually useful information for you in making decisions about continuing with them. A simple oversight in renewal would typically be met with "Oh, thanks for bringing that to my attention, I'll get that updated right away.

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Just wondering what software your preparer used? I'm asking because some tax software won't even let you e-file as a paid preparer without entering a valid PTIN. So either they're paper filing (which is unusual these days), using consumer software and pretending they're not a paid preparer, or somehow bypassing verification systems.

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Eduardo Silva

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Good catch. This is a huge red flag to me. If they're bypassing systems or misrepresenting themselves to the software, what else are they being dishonest about?

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