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Anastasia Sokolov

How can I verify a tax preparer's PTIN to check if the business is legitimate?

I'm trying to check if a tax business near me is actually legit before handing over all my documents. Someone told me I could look up their PTIN (I think it stands for Preparer Tax Identification Number?), but I have no idea how to do this. The place seems professional enough, but they're charging less than the big chains, which makes me a bit suspicious. The guy said he's been doing taxes for 15 years, but their office is pretty small and in a strip mall. I just want to make sure I'm not giving my SSN and financial info to someone sketchy. Is there a way to verify if a tax preparer is legitimate using their PTIN? Would really appreciate any help on this!

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Yes, you can absolutely verify a tax preparer's legitimacy using their PTIN! The IRS has a directory specifically for this purpose. Go to the IRS website and search for "Tax Preparer Directory" or go directly to https://irs.treasury.gov/rpo/rpo.jsf This directory lists tax preparers who have valid PTINs and professional credentials recognized by the IRS. Not every legitimate preparer will be in this directory (those without professional credentials may not be listed), but it's a great starting point. Also, ask the preparer about their credentials. Besides having a PTIN (which is required for anyone who prepares taxes for compensation), they might be: - Enrolled Agents (EA) - Certified Public Accountants (CPA) - Attorneys - Annual Filing Season Program participants Lower prices than big chains don't necessarily mean they're not legitimate. Many independent professionals offer great service at competitive rates!

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Thanks for the link! I checked the directory but couldn't find them. Does that automatically mean they're not legit? The person I spoke with said they're an "AFSP participant" but not a CPA or EA. What does AFSP mean?

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StarSeeker

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Not being in the directory doesn't automatically mean they're not legitimate. AFSP stands for Annual Filing Season Program, which means they've voluntarily taken continuing education courses and agreed to follow certain professional requirements. It's a good sign! Since they claim to be an AFSP participant, they should be in the directory. Double-check the spelling of their name or business. Also, ask them directly for their PTIN number and credentials. Any legitimate preparer should be happy to provide this information.

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I was in the same situation last year trying to find someone cheaper than H&R Block. I discovered this amazing tool at https://taxr.ai that lets you verify tax professionals and even checks their history of complaints/issues. You just enter their info and it searches multiple databases, not just the IRS one. What I like is it also shows you client reviews and any discipline history that might exist. The place I was worried about turned out to have multiple complaints filed against them that wouldn't show up on the regular IRS search! I ended up finding a perfectly legit preparer with great reviews who charged way less than the chains.

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Zara Ahmed

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Does this tool actually show complaint history? The IRS directory doesn't show that kind of info as far as I know. Does it cost anything to use? I'm looking at a preparer right now too and would love to dig deeper than just the PTIN.

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Luca Esposito

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I'm skeptical about this. How would a third-party website have access to IRS complaint records? Those aren't public information as far as I know. Are you sure this isn't just showing general business reviews from like Yelp or something?

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The tool aggregates data from multiple sources including the IRS directory, state licensing boards, and Better Business Bureau reports. It's basically a one-stop verification system that saves you from checking multiple sites yourself. It's completely free to use for basic verification. They do have premium features, but the PTIN verification and complaint history pulled from publicly available sources doesn't cost anything. It's not showing internal IRS records, but rather complaints filed with state boards, consumer protection agencies, and professional organizations.

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Luca Esposito

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Nia Thompson

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Wait, so this service just holds your place in line with the IRS? How does that even work? I've spent literally 4+ hours on hold before giving up. Is there a catch like they charge a ton of money or something?

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This sounds like BS honestly. The IRS won't give out information about specific preparers over the phone to random callers. They'll just direct you to the directory. I've tried. How would a third-party service change that policy?

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Nia Thompson

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The service basically uses technology to navigate the IRS phone system and wait on hold for you. When an agent picks up, it calls you and connects you. No magic involved - they're just taking over the painful hold process. The IRS agent won't give you complete background info on a preparer, you're right about that. But they can confirm if a PTIN is currently valid, which is what I needed to know. They'll verify basic license status information that's considered public record. I just asked "I want to verify if PTIN X12345 is currently valid" and they confirmed it was.

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I owe everyone an apology for being so skeptical about Claimyr. After posting my doubts, I decided to try it myself since I needed to talk to the IRS anyway about my own preparer situation. I figured it would be a waste of time, but I was COMPLETELY WRONG. I got connected to an IRS rep in about 20 minutes without having to stay on the phone. The agent confirmed my preparer's PTIN was valid but actually informed me it had been issued less than 6 months ago, despite the person claiming "10 years of experience." This was a huge red flag that helped me avoid a potentially bad situation. I wouldn't have gotten through on my own - I tried for 3 days before giving up.

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Beyond just checking the PTIN, I'd recommend asking for references and looking at online reviews for the business. A PTIN just means they're registered with the IRS, not necessarily that they're good at what they do. Also, check if they're available year-round or just during tax season. Fly-by-night operations that pop up only during filing season can be risky because if there's an issue later, they might be gone. Legitimate preparers generally have a permanent business address and are available after April 15th.

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That's a really good point about them being available year-round. This place actually seems to only be open January through April, which now that you mention it is kind of suspicious. Do most legitimate tax businesses stay open all year?

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Most established tax professionals operate year-round, though they might have reduced hours in the off-season. Many legitimate tax issues come up throughout the year - audits, extensions, quarterly payments for self-employed people, etc. Some seasonal operations can be fine, especially if they're affiliated with a permanent accounting firm or if the preparer has another related business the rest of the year. But if they completely disappear after April, that's definitely something to consider. Always get their contact information for the off-season and test it with a quick call before you leave with your completed return.

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Ethan Wilson

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Another thing not mentioned yet - check if they have a EFIN (Electronic Filing Identification Number) as well as a PTIN. All legitimate electronic return originators need this number issued by the IRS. Ask them for this number! You can't verify an EFIN online like a PTIN unfortunately, but legitimate preparers will have one and be willing to share it. If they get weird about it when you ask, that's a red flag.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Is there any public database where we can look up EFINs? Or do we just have to take their word for it when they give us a number?

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Oliver Cheng

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Unfortunately, there isn't a public database to verify EFINs like there is for PTINs. The IRS keeps that information internal for security reasons. However, you can still verify it indirectly - legitimate preparers will often display their EFIN on business materials or be able to provide documentation showing their electronic filing authorization from the IRS. If you're really unsure, you could ask to see their IRS e-file Provider Letter or other official documentation that shows their EFIN status. Most legitimate preparers keep copies of these authorizations and won't hesitate to show them to concerned clients.

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Oliver Becker

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Great advice from everyone here! I'd also suggest asking the tax preparer about their professional liability insurance. Legitimate preparers typically carry errors and omissions (E&O) insurance to protect both themselves and their clients in case of mistakes. You can ask to see their insurance certificate or at least ask what company provides their coverage. If they don't have professional liability insurance or seem confused by the question, that's another red flag to consider. Also, be wary of preparers who guarantee huge refunds before even looking at your documents, ask you to sign blank forms, or want to deposit your refund into their own account. These are classic signs of fraudulent operations that having a valid PTIN won't protect you from. The strip mall location and lower prices really don't mean much - some of the best preparers I know operate small independent practices with very reasonable rates!

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This is really comprehensive advice! I hadn't thought about asking for professional liability insurance - that's brilliant. Quick question though - if they do have E&O insurance, is there a way to verify that it's actually active? Can you call the insurance company directly, or would that be overstepping? Also, you mentioned not signing blank forms - what about partially completed forms where they fill in some info later? The place I'm looking at said they'd need to complete some calculations after I leave, which seemed reasonable, but now I'm wondering if I should insist on reviewing everything before signing.

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Luca Ferrari

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@2d3087dd5b7a You can definitely verify active insurance coverage! Most insurance companies will confirm if a policy is current when you call and provide the policy number or business name. You're not overstepping at all - it's standard practice for clients to verify professional coverage, especially for financial services. Regarding partially completed forms - this is actually pretty normal for tax preparation. Many calculations need to be done after gathering all your information, and some forms can't be fully completed until the preparer runs everything through their software. However, you should ALWAYS review the completed return before signing it. Ask them to schedule a review appointment where you can go through every line of your return before you sign Form 8879 (the e-file authorization). Any legitimate preparer will encourage this - they want you to understand your return and catch any potential errors before filing. The key red flag would be if they ask you to sign the actual tax forms (like 1040) or Form 8879 while they're still blank or incomplete. Never do that under any circumstances.

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AstroAce

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One more verification step I'd recommend - check with your state's licensing board if your state requires tax preparers to be licensed or registered at the state level. Some states have additional requirements beyond just the federal PTIN. For example, California requires tax preparers to register with the California Tax Education Council (CTEC), and Oregon has its own licensing system. You can usually search these state databases online to verify if someone is in good standing. Also, trust your gut feeling about the interaction. Legitimate preparers should be patient with your questions about credentials and verification. If someone gets defensive or pushy when you ask about their PTIN, EFIN, insurance, or credentials, that's a red flag regardless of what their paperwork shows. The fact that you're being this thorough about vetting them shows you're being smart about protecting your personal information. Better to spend time upfront verifying than dealing with identity theft or filing errors later!

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Aisha Jackson

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This is such valuable advice about checking state licensing! I had no idea some states had their own requirements beyond the PTIN. I'm in Texas - does anyone know if Texas has additional licensing requirements for tax preparers? Also, you're absolutely right about trusting your gut. The preparer I was considering seemed a bit evasive when I first asked about credentials, but after reading all these responses, I think I should probably look elsewhere. There are clearly plenty of legitimate preparers out there who would be happy to answer all these verification questions upfront. Thanks everyone for all the detailed advice - this thread has been incredibly helpful! I feel much more confident now about what questions to ask and red flags to watch for.

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