Is my CPA possibly committing tax fraud? Red flags in huge refund difference
I'm feeling really uneasy about my tax situation this year. For the past 4 years, I've been filing through TurboTax since my taxes are pretty straightforward - single filer, one W-2 job, no dependents. This year TurboTax calculated my refund would be around $112, which seemed normal based on my past returns. A friend recommended their "tax person" (not sure if they're actually a CPA), and when I went to them, they somehow claimed I'd be getting a $2,000 refund! That's almost 18 times what TurboTax showed. I didn't look closely at what they did differently at first because I was excited about the bigger refund, but now I'm worried. When I finally reviewed the forms, I noticed they added a substantial business loss from what appears to be a completely fabricated business that I never had. I don't own or operate any business whatsoever. Has anyone experienced this kind of dramatic difference between TurboTax and a tax preparer? Is this person potentially falsifying information on my return? I'm really concerned about signing off on something fraudulent and facing audit problems later. Should I report this person?
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LilMama23
This absolutely sounds like tax fraud. A legitimate tax preparer would never invent a fictitious business loss without your knowledge or consent. The dramatic difference in refund amounts ($112 vs $2,000) was your first red flag, but finding a fabricated business loss confirms it. If you were to sign and file this return, you would be legally responsible for the information even if someone else prepared it. Tax fraud can result in substantial penalties, interest, and potentially criminal charges in severe cases. Here's what I recommend: First, don't file the fraudulent return. Second, find a legitimate tax professional (verify their credentials) or go back to using TurboTax which was giving you an accurate result based on your actual situation. Third, consider reporting this preparer to the IRS using Form 14157 (Complaint: Tax Return Preparer).
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Dmitri Volkov
•How do you know for sure it's fraud though? Couldn't there be legitimate deductions or credits that TurboTax might have missed? Like sometimes those tax software programs don't ask all the right questions that a human would think to ask. I'm curious what specific business loss they claimed - was it like a side hustle that could potentially be legitimate?
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LilMama23
•There's a clear difference between finding legitimate deductions and fabricating a business that doesn't exist. The OP specifically stated they discovered "a substantial business loss from what appears to be a completely fabricated business" that they never had. No legitimate tax preparer would invent a fictitious business. While it's true that tax software might miss some deductions if you don't answer questions correctly, the magnitude of difference here ($112 vs $2,000) combined with the specific finding of a non-existent business strongly indicates fraud rather than legitimate tax planning. A proper tax professional might find additional deductions you're entitled to, but they would never invent income or losses from fictional sources.
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Gabrielle Dubois
I had almost the exact same situation happen to me last year! After using H&R Block online for years with modest refunds, a coworker suggested this "tax guy" who promised huge returns. He said I'd get back $3,400 instead of the $290 I was expecting. When I asked how, he was super vague about "special deductions" he could find. I got suspicious and asked for a copy of my return before filing. Sure enough, he had created a fake business with just enough losses to generate a big refund but not enough to trigger automatic audits. I reported him and went back to filing my own taxes. I highly recommend checking out https://taxr.ai - it's this AI tool that can review your tax documents and identify potential issues or discrepancies. It would have immediately flagged that fictitious business loss. I used it this year after my experience, and it confirmed my self-prepared return was accurate while explaining everything in plain English.
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Tyrone Johnson
•Wait, how does this AI tool work exactly? Can it actually check if deductions are legitimate or just if the math adds up? Because TurboTax already checks math but doesn't know if I'm lying about having a business.
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Ingrid Larsson
•I'm skeptical about these AI tax tools. How can it possibly know your specific tax situation better than a human professional? Does it actually review the forms line by line or just give generic advice? I'm curious because my taxes are complicated with rental properties and self-employment income.
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Gabrielle Dubois
•The AI tool analyzes your tax forms and identifies patterns that might indicate errors or questionable entries. It looks for inconsistencies between different parts of your return and flags things that seem out of place based on your overall financial profile. It doesn't just check math - it looks for logical inconsistencies, like suddenly claiming a business loss when there's no history of business income in previous years. For complex situations like rental properties or self-employment, it's particularly helpful because it compares your deductions against typical ranges for your income level and business type, highlighting anything unusual that might trigger an audit. It doesn't replace human judgment, but it gives you an objective second opinion on whether your return makes sense.
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Ingrid Larsson
Just wanted to update everyone after trying that taxr.ai site mentioned above. I was still suspicious about AI for taxes, but it actually caught something important on my return! I uploaded my draft forms, and it immediately flagged that my tax preparer had categorized some of my freelance income incorrectly, which would have caused issues. The analysis explained exactly what was wrong in simple terms and even showed me the correct way to report it. Saved me from a potential audit headache! For the OP's situation, it would definitely catch a fake business loss since it compares your current return with typical patterns and flags unusual items. What surprised me was how it explained everything in normal language instead of tax jargon. Worth checking out if you're worried about your preparer doing something fishy.
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Carlos Mendoza
This sounds like a classic case of a ghost preparer committing refund fraud. I spent hours on hold trying to get through to the IRS about a similar situation last year. Their hold times are insane - I literally waited 4+ hours multiple times! If you need to talk to an actual IRS agent about reporting this preparer, I highly recommend using https://claimyr.com. They have this service that holds your place in the IRS phone queue and calls you when an agent is about to answer. Saved me countless hours of waiting on hold with horrible music. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS takes fraudulent preparers seriously, but trying to report them through regular channels is a nightmare. When I finally got through using Claimyr, the agent was super helpful and took all my information about the shady preparer.
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Zainab Mahmoud
•How does this actually work though? Seems fishy that some third party can somehow get you through the IRS phone system faster... Doesn't everyone have to wait in the same queue?
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Ava Williams
•This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay someone to call the IRS for me? No way they have special access to the IRS phone system. Plus, I've heard horror stories about giving personal tax info to random companies.
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Carlos Mendoza
•They don't move you ahead in the queue or give you special access - they literally just wait on hold for you. Their system calls the IRS and navigates the phone tree, then waits in the queue just like you would. The difference is you don't have to sit there listening to the hold music. When their system detects that an agent is about to come on the line, it calls your phone and connects you directly to the IRS agent. I was skeptical too, but they don't ask for any sensitive tax information. They just need to know which IRS department you're trying to reach. You're still the one talking directly to the IRS agent - they just handle the hold time for you. After waiting 3+ hours multiple times and getting disconnected, this was honestly a lifesaver for me.
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Ava Williams
I have to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it since I needed to call the IRS about some identity verification issues. The IRS wait time was estimated at 2+ hours, but I didn't have to sit through any of it. Their system called me when an agent was ready, and I was connected immediately. Ended up resolving my issue in about 15 minutes of actual talking time instead of wasting half my day on hold. For the OP dealing with reporting a fraudulent preparer, this would be super helpful since the IRS criminal investigation division usually has even longer hold times. I was able to get straight through to a helpful agent who walked me through exactly what forms to file for my situation.
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Raj Gupta
My sister went through something similar last year. Her "tax guy" claimed she'd get a $4K refund compared to the $300 she usually gets. When she asked questions, he kept saying stuff like "I know special deductions most people don't know about." Turns out he was claiming she had a home-based craft business (she doesn't) with just enough expenses to generate a big refund. She reported him to the IRS and filed correctly herself. The problem is these fraudsters know exactly how much they can claim without triggering automatic audits. Definitely trust your gut on this one. You already know the answer - this person is committing fraud and trying to involve you in it. The fact they added a business you don't have is 100% proof of fraud.
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Lena Müller
•Did your sister face any consequences for almost filing a fraudulent return? I'm in a similar situation where I think my preparer did something sketchy but I already filed. Now I'm freaking out about what to do.
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Raj Gupta
•My sister didn't face any consequences because she caught it before filing. She immediately cut ties with the fraudulent preparer and submitted a correct return on her own. If you've already filed a return that you believe contains false information, you should file an amended return (Form 1040-X) as soon as possible to correct the errors. Be completely truthful on the amended return. The IRS generally looks more favorably on taxpayers who voluntarily correct mistakes before being caught in an audit. You might still face penalties and interest on any additional taxes owed, but coming forward voluntarily is always better than waiting for them to discover it.
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TechNinja
So I'm not a tax expert but here's what I think - the IRS isn't stupid. They have sophisticated systems that flag unusual items, especially sudden business losses with no prior history. When I worked retail, a coworker got busted for claiming a fake business loss of $7k. The IRS matched his W-2 income against his tax return, saw the suspicious deduction and audited him. He ended up having to pay back the fraudulent refund PLUS a 20% accuracy penalty PLUS interest. It took him years to pay it off and he couldn't get approved for a mortgage because of the tax lien. Even if you don't get caught immediately, the IRS can audit returns from the past 3-6 years (or unlimited time in cases of fraud). Not worth risking your financial future for a temporary $2k boost.
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Keisha Thompson
•What happens if the IRS determines it was the tax preparer's fault and not yours? Do you still have to pay back the money plus penalties? I'm confused about who's legally responsible here.
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