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Muhammad Hobbs

Does 1099-NEC income (hobby or Schedule C) count as earned income for calculating child tax credits?

I've been searching everywhere and still can't find a clear answer. Using TurboTax for the first time this year and getting really confused results. So I received a 1099-NEC for some side work. I tried entering it three different ways to see what would happen - first as hobby income, then as Schedule C, and finally (just as an experiment) as W-2 income using the same dollar amount with no withholding. The results are TOTALLY different! TurboTax is giving me the additional child credits and earned income tax credit when I enter it as W-2 income, but I'm getting nothing when I enter as 1099-NEC or Schedule C (using exactly the same income figure). My total income from all sources is well under $40k for the year. I always thought 1099 and Schedule C income counted as "earned income" just like W-2 wages? Are they somehow different when it comes to calculating these refundable credits? I'm so confused because this makes a huge difference in my refund amount.

Noland Curtis

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You're right to be confused because this is a common misunderstanding. 1099-NEC income and Schedule C income absolutely DO count as earned income for purposes of the Child Tax Credit and Earned Income Tax Credit! The key difference is that with Schedule C income (self-employment), you have to pay both the employer and employee portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes, which reduces your net earnings. When you enter a 1099-NEC properly in TurboTax, it should be calculating your net self-employment income after these additional taxes. Make sure you're entering your 1099-NEC properly as self-employment income using Schedule C. The program should then calculate your self-employment tax and your net earnings from self-employment, which will be used to determine your eligibility for those credits. Don't enter 1099-NEC income as W-2 income - that's incorrect and could cause problems if you're audited. The IRS systems match forms, and they'll know you received a 1099-NEC, not a W-2.

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Diez Ellis

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What about the hobby route? If I enter my 1099-NEC as hobby income instead of Schedule C, will that still count as earned income for these credits? And do I still have to pay self employment taxes on hobby income?

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Noland Curtis

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Hobby income does NOT count as earned income for tax credits. This is a critical distinction - hobby income is reported on Schedule 1 as "Other Income" and is not subject to self-employment tax, but it also doesn't qualify as earned income for purposes of the Child Tax Credit or Earned Income Tax Credit. For self-employment tax, you only pay this on business income (Schedule C), not on hobby income. However, this is a double-edged sword - while you avoid the self-employment tax with hobby income, you lose both the ability to deduct expenses (except as itemized deductions subject to the 2% AGI floor, which was suspended until 2026) and the ability to count the income as "earned" for tax credit purposes.

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The other comments are helpful but let me add something specific about TurboTax that might explain what you're seeing. There's a known issue where sometimes TurboTax doesn't properly calculate EITC and Additional Child Tax Credit with self-employment income if you have a business loss or very small profit after expenses. Double check that you're not over-deducting expenses on your Schedule C. Also, make sure you've completed all the self-employment sections fully - there's a section specifically for self-employment income for EITC purposes that sometimes gets missed.

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Thank you! That might be exactly what's happening. I did have quite a few business expenses that brought my net profit down pretty low. Should I maybe not claim all legitimate expenses if it's hurting my credits eligibility? Or is that not allowed?

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You should always claim all legitimate business expenses - it's not just about being "allowed," it's about accurately reporting your business activity. Intentionally underreporting expenses to increase tax credits could be considered tax fraud. That said, make sure the expenses you're claiming are truly ordinary and necessary for your business. Many people incorrectly classify personal expenses as business expenses. For example, if you use your cell phone 30% for business, only 30% of the cost is a legitimate business expense. Review each expense carefully and make sure it's properly allocated between business and personal use.

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Marilyn Dixon

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Has anyone tried switching from TurboTax to a different tax software? I had this exact problem last year and found that H&R Block's software actually explained the earned income calculations better and showed me why my Schedule C income wasn't qualifying.

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KingKongZilla

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This is a really common confusion point! I went through the exact same thing last year. The key issue is that when you enter 1099-NEC income as Schedule C business income, TurboTax calculates your self-employment tax (15.3% on 92.35% of your net profit), and then it uses your NET earnings from self-employment for the earned income credits - not your gross 1099 amount. So if you received $5,000 on your 1099-NEC, after self-employment taxes and the deduction for half of SE tax, your actual "earned income" for credit purposes might only be around $4,200-$4,300. This reduced amount could be pushing you below the income thresholds needed to qualify for maximum credits. When you mistakenly entered it as W-2 income, TurboTax treated the full amount as earned income without any SE tax deductions, which is why you got different credit amounts. Make sure you're entering it correctly as Schedule C income - the credits should still apply, but the net amount after SE taxes is what counts toward your eligibility calculations.

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Lydia Santiago

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This is such a helpful breakdown! I think this explains exactly what I was experiencing. So just to make sure I understand - my $3,500 in 1099-NEC income would actually show as something like $3,200 in earned income after the self-employment tax calculations, and that lower amount is what determines my credit eligibility? That would definitely explain why TurboTax was giving me different results compared to when I mistakenly entered it as W-2 wages. Thanks for breaking down the math - this makes so much more sense now!

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