How Do I Calculate Qualified Business Income Deduction for My First 1099-MISC Income?

Hey everyone, I'm totally new to filing with 1099-MISC income this year. I've been trying to use two different tax software programs to double-check my work (FreeTaxUSA and TurboTax), but they're giving me different calculations for the Qualified Business Income Deduction and now I'm confused. Here's what each one seems to be doing: TurboTax calculates it as: 0.2 * (1099 Income - Schedule C Expenses) But FreeTaxUSA does it as: 0.2 * (1099 Income - Schedule C Expenses - Self Employment Tax Deduction), where they're taking the Self Employment Tax Deduction as 50% of the Self Employment Tax My 1099-MISC income is about $24,500 and I have around $3,800 in Schedule C expenses if that helps. I'm super confused about which calculation method is actually correct? Does one of these programs have it wrong or am I missing something? This is my first rodeo with self-employment taxes and I want to make sure I'm doing everything right!

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Diego Chavez

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The FreeTaxUSA calculation is correct. When calculating your Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction, you need to use your net business income after accounting for the deduction for half of self-employment tax. The QBI deduction is generally 20% of your "qualified business income," but qualified business income is your business net profit AFTER the deduction for half of your self-employment tax. This is because the half of self-employment tax that you can deduct is considered a business expense. So the correct formula is indeed: 0.2 * (1099 Income - Schedule C Expenses - Self Employment Tax Deduction) This gives you the accurate QBI deduction amount. TurboTax might be showing you an initial calculation before it factors in the self-employment tax deduction in the final numbers.

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Diego Chavez

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Yes, you've got it right! You need to subtract both your regular Schedule C expenses AND half of your self-employment tax from your 1099 income before multiplying by 20% to get your proper QBI deduction. And yes, this means your FreeTaxUSA calculation will give you a smaller QBI deduction than what TurboTax is initially showing. However, if you complete the entire return in TurboTax, the final calculation should end up matching what FreeTaxUSA is showing. Sometimes TurboTax shows preliminary calculations that get adjusted as you progress through the return.

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NeonNebula

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NeonNebula

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Sean Kelly

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Nia Harris

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GalaxyGazer

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There's actually another wrinkle to the QBI calculation that nobody has mentioned yet. If your total taxable income (after standard/itemized deductions) exceeds certain thresholds ($170,050 for single filers or $340,100 for joint filers in 2022), the QBI deduction calculation gets more complicated with phase-outs and limitations. In those cases, your QBI deduction might be limited to either 20% of qualified business income OR 20% of taxable income minus net capital gains, whichever is LESS. And if you're in certain specified service businesses and over the threshold, it gets even more complex. Just wanted to throw that out there in case anyone reading is a higher earner!

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GalaxyGazer

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Yes, these thresholds are adjusted for inflation annually. For 2023 they increased to $182,100 for single filers and $364,200 for joint filers. For 2024 they're $191,950 for single and $383,900 for joint filers. The whole QBI system is probably one of the most complex parts of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. For most small side-hustlers with 1099 income well below these thresholds, the calculation is relatively straightforward as discussed earlier. But it definitely gets much more complicated once you hit those higher income levels!

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