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Cedric Chung

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I'm confused about something related to this... I did a backdoor Roth for the first time in 2024 and my 1099-R from Schwab shows code "J" in box 7. Is that correct or do I have a different problem than OP? I can't find clear info on what code J means for Roth conversions.

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Code "J" is actually correct for your situation. It specifically indicates an early distribution from a Roth IRA that is not subject to penalty (due to it being a qualified distribution). This is different from OP's situation with a Traditional to Roth conversion. Distribution codes can vary based on the specific type of transaction and account types involved. For a backdoor Roth where you contribute to a Traditional IRA and then convert to Roth, you'd typically see code "2" (or sometimes "1" as in OP's case) for the conversion step. But for distributions from Roth IRAs themselves, different codes apply.

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I went through this exact same situation last year with my backdoor Roth conversion at Fidelity. Got the dreaded code "1" instead of "2" and panicked for weeks thinking I'd messed something up. After doing tons of research and talking to a tax professional, I learned that this is incredibly common and not something to lose sleep over. The key thing to remember is that Form 8606 is what actually matters for tax purposes. The IRS processing systems are designed to handle these discrepancies between 1099-R codes and the actual nature of the transaction as reported on Form 8606. I ended up filing with the incorrect distribution code and had zero issues. That said, if you have time before the filing deadline and want complete peace of mind, calling Fidelity might be worth it. But honestly, based on my experience and everything I've read, you should be totally fine filing as-is with a properly completed Form 8606. The $7,500 amount you mentioned is also pretty standard for backdoor Roth conversions, so nothing about your situation would stand out as unusual to the IRS.

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Remember that even if there's no structures, you're still liable for what happens on your property! My friend had an empty lot and some teens were drinking there, one fell and got hurt, and they sued him! Make sure you have liability insurance on that vacant land. Most regular homeowners policies won't cover empty lots that aren't adjacent to your primary residence.

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Is that really necessary though? Seems like overkill for a piece of forest land in the middle of nowhere. What kind of insurance would even cover that?

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@Aisha Mahmood - Definitely contact the Wisconsin county assessor's office ASAP! Since you inherited the land, the property taxes are likely still being assessed but might be going to your grandparents' old address or getting held up in the ownership transfer process. Wisconsin has some great programs for forest land - you might qualify for the Managed Forest Land (MFL) program which can reduce your property taxes by up to 80% if you commit to keeping it as forest for at least 25 years. Given that it's 3 acres of forest, this could save you hundreds of dollars annually. You'll need to get the deed properly transferred into your name first, then inquire about MFL enrollment. The Wisconsin DNR website has all the details about eligibility requirements. Don't wait too long though - property taxes accrue even if you're not receiving bills, and you don't want to end up with a big surprise bill later!

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Diego Chavez

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This is really helpful info about the Wisconsin MFL program! I had no idea forest land could qualify for such significant tax reductions. @Katherine Ziminski, do you know if there are any restrictions on access or use of the land while it's enrolled in the MFL program? Like, can you still hike on it or allow family to use it recreationally, or does keeping it as "managed forest" mean you can't really use it at all?

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Just a heads up - don't forget about self-employment taxes! Even if you write off the excavator, you'll still owe SE tax (15.3%) on your net profit. A lot of people start side businesses and get shocked by this at tax time.

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Cedric Chung

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But the equipment deduction would reduce that net profit right? So if they spent $10,500 on the excavator and only make $8,000 in revenue the first year, they wouldn't owe SE tax?

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Exactly right! The equipment deduction reduces your net profit, which is what SE tax is calculated on. So in your example, if they made $8,000 in revenue but had $10,500 in equipment expenses, they'd actually have a net loss of $2,500 for the year. No SE tax owed on a loss. Just keep in mind that having losses multiple years in a row can trigger IRS scrutiny about whether it's really a business or just a hobby. But for a startup year, especially with major equipment purchases, losses are totally normal and expected.

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One thing I'd add to all the great advice here - make sure you're prepared to demonstrate the business nature of your activity if the IRS ever questions it. Since you bought the excavator in November but won't start generating income until spring, document everything that shows your serious business intent: research you did on pricing for excavation services in your area, any business cards or flyers you've made, social media pages you created, networking with potential clients, etc. Also consider getting business insurance for the excavator once you start operating. Not only is it smart protection, but the premiums are another business deduction. And if you're planning to operate it on other people's property, many clients will require you to have liability coverage anyway. The fact that you're asking these questions and thinking ahead shows you're taking this seriously as a business venture, which is exactly the kind of profit motive the IRS looks for. Good luck with your new excavation business!

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Nia Wilson

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This is really solid advice! I'm just getting started with understanding business taxes myself, but the documentation part makes so much sense. Even something as simple as screenshots of Craigslist or Facebook posts where you're advertising your services could probably help show business intent, right? I hadn't thought about the insurance angle either - that's a great point about clients requiring liability coverage. Do you know if there are any other "must have" insurances for this type of work that would also be deductible?

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Yara Haddad

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@Nia Wilson Yes, absolutely! Screenshots of ads, even saved drafts of Craigslist posts you re'working on, text messages with potential clients, photos of you researching competitor pricing - all of that helps build your case for legitimate business intent. For insurance, beyond general liability, you ll'probably want to look into equipment coverage for the excavator itself theft, (damage, etc. and) potentially commercial auto if you re'using a truck/trailer to transport it to job sites. Some excavation work might also require bonding depending on your local regulations and the types of clients you work with. All of those premiums would be deductible business expenses. One more tip - if you re'planning to work your excavator from your home base, check if you need any local business permits or licenses. Getting those early not only keeps you compliant but also creates more documentation of your serious business intent.

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Quick tip from someone who just went through this: if you're both making similar incomes, check the box in Step 2(c) on both of your W-4 forms AND have one of you claim the child on Step 3. We have a similar situation (I make $72k, husband makes $69k) and that worked perfectly for us last year. Also, the IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator on their website that's pretty helpful: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator

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How accurate did you find the IRS estimator? I tried using it but got confused with all the info they wanted. Did you feel like your withholding ended up being accurate using their recommendation?

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I found the IRS estimator to be pretty accurate, but it does require a lot of detailed information. You need your most recent paystubs for both you and your spouse, plus any other income sources. The results were accurate for us - we got a small refund of about $650 which was perfect. The key things that made it work well were making sure we entered our pay frequency correctly (biweekly vs. semi-monthly makes a difference) and updating it mid-year when I got a raise. If your incomes are stable, you probably only need to do it once, but any big changes warrant a re-calculation.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - remember that having a child also means you might qualify for the Child and Dependent Care Credit if you're paying for childcare! This is separate from the Child Tax Credit and can be worth up to $2,100 depending on your income and childcare expenses. This doesn't directly affect your W-4 withholding, but it's something to keep in mind for your overall tax situation as new parents. Also, if either of you has access to a Dependent Care FSA through work, you might want to sign up during your next benefits enrollment!

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Thanks for bringing this up! We're actually planning to put our baby in daycare once my wife's maternity leave ends. I had no idea about the Child and Dependent Care Credit. Does that get factored into the W-4 somehow or is it just something we claim when we file next year?

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Jamal Harris

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The Child and Dependent Care Credit is only claimed when you file your tax return - it doesn't affect your W-4 withholding at all. However, if you're planning on significant daycare expenses, you might want to consider adding a small amount to your additional withholding in Step 4(c) of your W-4 since the credit phases out at higher income levels and you want to make sure you don't underwithhold. Also, definitely look into the Dependent Care FSA that @53dc090fcbaf mentioned! You can set aside up to $5,000 pre-tax for childcare expenses, which reduces your taxable income. Just be careful not to contribute more than you'll actually spend since FSA funds typically have a "use it or lose it" rule.

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I just went through something very similar with my father's estate in Italy last year. A few additional things to keep in mind that haven't been mentioned yet: 1. **Documentation is crucial** - Make sure you keep all the foreign estate documents, appraisals, and sale records. The IRS may want to see proof of the stepped-up basis calculation, especially for foreign property. 2. **State taxes** - Don't forget to check your state's requirements too. Some states have different rules for inherited foreign property than the federal government. 3. **Timeline for reporting** - Since your wife sold in 2024, you have until the 2024 tax filing deadline to report this properly. But if you paid estimated taxes during 2024, you might want to adjust your Q4 payment if this creates a significant tax liability. 4. **Professional help** - Given the complexity with foreign property, inherited basis calculations, and potential treaty issues, this might be worth consulting with a tax professional who specializes in international tax matters. The cost of professional advice is usually much less than the penalties for getting it wrong. The $135,000 sale amount plus the $85,000 cash inheritance puts you in territory where accuracy is really important. Better to be safe than sorry with the IRS on international transactions.

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PixelPioneer

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm curious about point #4 regarding professional help - do you have any recommendations for finding tax professionals who specifically handle international inheritance issues? I've called a few local CPAs but they seem hesitant to take on foreign property cases. Also, regarding the documentation you mentioned, should we be getting official translations of foreign documents, or are copies of the original documents sufficient for IRS purposes?

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Kaitlyn Otto

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Great question about finding qualified professionals! For international tax specialists, I'd recommend checking the American Institute of CPAs (AICPA) directory and filtering for "international taxation" specialization. You can also look for Enrolled Agents (EAs) who often handle complex IRS matters. Many larger firms have international tax departments even if the local partners don't advertise it. Regarding documentation, the IRS generally accepts foreign documents in their original language for amounts under certain thresholds, but having certified translations can save you headaches if they request clarification. For estate valuations and property appraisals, I'd definitely get key documents translated since these establish your basis. Keep both originals and translations together. One more tip - if the foreign country required you to file tax returns there as part of the inheritance/sale process, keep copies of those too. They can help support your foreign tax credit claims and show the IRS you were compliant with foreign tax obligations.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential requirement for Form 3520 if the inheritance exceeded certain thresholds. Since your wife received both property ($135,000) and cash ($85,000) totaling $220,000 from a foreign estate, you may need to file this form to report the foreign inheritance to the IRS. Form 3520 is required when you receive more than $100,000 from a foreign estate in a single tax year. The penalties for not filing this form can be severe - up to 35% of the inheritance amount in some cases. This is separate from the capital gains reporting on Schedule D that others have mentioned. Also, double-check whether any of the estate settlement process involved foreign trusts. If the property was held in a foreign trust before distribution, there could be additional reporting requirements on Form 3520-A. The good news is that filing Form 3520 doesn't create any additional tax liability - it's purely informational reporting to the IRS. But it's one of those "gotcha" requirements that many people miss when dealing with foreign inheritances.

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Amina Diallo

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This is exactly the kind of detail that gets overlooked! Thank you for bringing up Form 3520 - I had no idea about this requirement. The $220,000 total definitely puts us over that $100,000 threshold. Quick follow-up question: since the inheritance and sale happened in different years (inheritance in 2023, sale in 2024), do we need to file Form 3520 for both tax years? Or just for 2023 when the actual inheritance occurred? And is there any interaction between Form 3520 and the capital gains reporting on Schedule D, or are they completely separate requirements? The penalty structure you mentioned sounds terrifying - definitely want to make sure we don't miss this!

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StarSurfer

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Great question about the timing! Since your wife inherited the property in 2023, you should file Form 3520 with your 2023 tax return (or amend if you already filed without it). The form is required for the year you received the inheritance, not when you sold it. So you'd file Form 3520 for 2023 and report the capital gains on Schedule D for 2024. These are completely separate requirements - Form 3520 is just informational reporting about receiving the foreign inheritance, while Schedule D reports the taxable gain from selling it. Think of Form 3520 as telling the IRS "I received this foreign inheritance" and Schedule D as "I sold inherited property and here's my gain/loss." The penalties are indeed severe, so definitely don't delay on this. If you haven't filed your 2023 return yet, include Form 3520. If you already filed 2023 without it, you'll want to amend using Form 1040X. The sooner you get compliant, the better your position will be if the IRS has any questions.

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