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I'm hoping someone can give me some advice because I'm stressing out about my husband's tax situation at his job. My husband works at Target and we've been dealing with a complete mess with his payroll taxes. Something is seriously wrong with how they're handling his W4 and we're totally confused. For some weird reason, they're insisting he has to list himself as "single" on his W4 instead of "married filing jointly" because the system supposedly won't withhold properly if he's listed as married or with dependents. Apparently other employees have had the same issue and were told to just select "single" to fix it. But this wasn't a problem during the first few months he worked there in 2024. We just discovered last month that they've only withheld $31 total for federal taxes this ENTIRE YEAR despite him working full-time! He immediately updated his W4, and now they took a massive $212 out of his $980 (gross) paycheck this week. The electronic system keeps changing his extra withholding amount to $212 and won't let him enter anything lower. At least we don't have state income tax where we live (rural Kentucky). This is his only job and he makes roughly $27k/yr. I make about $53k/yr at my main job, plus around $12k/yr between two part-time gigs. Any advice on what we should do would be incredibly helpful! I'm completely lost trying to navigate this and super stressed about the whole situation. Having a 3-year-old and another baby coming in a few months isn't making things any easier.
E-filed and got accepted on 2/1. So frustrated right now! Called the IRS yesterday and they said they sent a letter on 2/22 for ID verification and that we need to call to make an appointment. I'm DREADING this whole process! π€ Do we absolutely have to go there in person? And if I do choose to go in (ugh), does my husband need to be there too? We filed married joint and I just want to get this over with as quickly as possible. Has anyone dealt with this before?
I completely feel your pain on this! Just went through the exact same situation in February and it was such a stressful process. Here's what I wish someone had told me from the start: DEFINITELY call the number on your letter before you schedule any appointment! Even though your letter says to schedule an appointment, you might still qualify for ID.me online verification. I wasted two weeks stressing about coordinating an in-person visit before I found out I could do it online. Call right at 7 AM when they open - that's your best shot at getting through. Have your SSN, the letter, and a copy of your return ready. Ask specifically: "Am I eligible for online identity verification through ID.me?" If you do qualify for online verification: - Both you and your husband will need to complete it separately since you filed jointly - You can do it on your own devices from home - Takes about 15-20 minutes each - SO much better than taking time off work! If you must go in person, unfortunately yes - both spouses are required for joint returns. The IRS is super strict about this and won't make exceptions. The good news is once you complete verification (online or in-person), your refund usually processes within 2-3 weeks. I know it's incredibly frustrating, but you're almost through the worst part! The online option saved my sanity - hopefully it's available for you too! π€
This whole thread has been so reassuring to read! I'm in literally the exact same situation - got my verification letter last week and have been spiraling about having to drag my husband to an IRS office. The fact that so many people here ended up qualifying for the online ID.me option even when their letters didn't mention it is giving me real hope. I'm setting three alarms for 6:55 AM tomorrow to make sure I call right when they open. Fingers crossed I can join the "avoided the in-person appointment" club! Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is a lifesaver when dealing with IRS stress! π
I went through this EXACT situation just last month and I totally understand your frustration! Here's what ended up working for me: First - before you resign yourself to that dreaded in-person appointment, definitely call the number on your letter and ask specifically about ID.me online verification eligibility. I made the mistake of assuming I had to go in person just because that's what the letter emphasized, but it turns out I qualified for online verification! The key is calling RIGHT when they open at 7 AM - I had to redial about 20 times but finally got through. Have your SSN, the verification letter, and your tax return handy when you call. If you do qualify for ID.me (fingers crossed!): - Both you and your husband will need to complete it since you filed jointly - You can do it separately on your own devices from home - Takes about 15-20 minutes each - Uses facial recognition and document scanning - pretty straightforward If online isn't an option, then unfortunately yes - both spouses absolutely must attend the in-person appointment for joint returns. The IRS is very strict about this requirement and won't make exceptions. For what it's worth, once you complete the verification (whether online or in-person), your refund typically processes within 2-3 weeks. I know this whole process is incredibly frustrating, but you're so close to being done with it! The ID.me option saved me hours of hassle - really hoping it's available for you too! π€
This is incredibly helpful information! I'm in the exact same boat and have been dreading this whole process. The fact that you were able to do the ID.me verification online even though your letter didn't clearly mention it as an option gives me so much hope. I'm definitely going to try calling at 7 AM sharp tomorrow - I've already set multiple alarms! π It's so frustrating that the IRS doesn't just clearly list all available options in their letters upfront. The thought of coordinating schedules with my spouse for an in-person appointment during tax season has been keeping me up at night. Thanks for sharing your experience and giving me a game plan - this community has been such a lifesaver for navigating IRS stress!
I keep getting error 428 when checking "Where's My Refund" on sa.www4.irs.gov. The system keeps showing "We are sorry Where's My Refund is currently unavailable. Please try Where's My Refund again later." I've been trying to check for 3 days straight now, and it's the same message every time. When I go to the IRS website at sa.www4.irs.gov, I navigate to Home / Refunds / Refund Status / Results, and I keep seeing this error message: "We are sorry Where's My Refund is currently unavailable. Please try Where's My Refund again later. 428" Below this error message, there's a "Get Refund Status" section that asks me to enter my Social Security Number, Tax Year, Filing Status, and Refund Amount as shown on my tax return (all fields marked with an asterisk as required fields), but I can't even get past the error message to input any of this information. I've tried accessing this at different times of day - even early morning at 8:52 when I thought the system might be less busy - but still getting the same error 428 message. My phone shows full signal strength (5G 100%) so I know it's not my connection. The IRS website has that "An official website of the United States Government" header with the "Here's how you know" text and the IRS logo at the top with a MENU option, so I'm definitely on the correct site. Anyone else dealing with this error 428? Starting to get worried about my refund status since I can't even access the "Get Refund Status" function after multiple attempts over several days.
I've been dealing with this same error 428 issue for about a week now! It's so frustrating because I filed my return almost 3 weeks ago and just want to see if there's any progress. I've tried accessing the Where's My Refund tool at different times - early morning, late evening, even middle of the night - but I keep getting that same "We are sorry Where's My Refund is currently unavailable. Please try Where's My Refund again later. 428" message on sa.www4.irs.gov. What's really annoying is that the form is right there asking for SSN, tax year, filing status, and refund amount, but you can't even get past the error to enter anything. I've tried on my laptop, phone, and even my tablet thinking maybe it was a device issue, but nope - same error across everything. At least I know from reading these comments that it's not just me or something I'm doing wrong. This seems like a major system issue on the IRS side that's affecting tons of people during peak tax season. Really hoping they get their servers fixed soon because I'm starting to worry about whether my return was even processed properly! π€
Hey StardustSeeker! Welcome to the club of frustrated taxpayers π I've been dealing with this exact same error 428 nightmare for about 4 days now. It's honestly reassuring (in a weird way) to see so many people having the identical issue - at least we know it's definitely on the IRS end and not something we're doing wrong. I've also tried every device and browser combo I can think of with zero luck. Really hoping they get this sorted out soon because like you said, we just want to know our returns are being processed! Fingers crossed their IT team is working on it π€
Hey everyone! New member here but unfortunately joining for the same frustrating reason as many of you - I've been battling error 428 on the IRS Where's My Refund tool for about 6 days now. Filed my return 3 weeks ago and this is my first attempt to check status, so naturally I'm getting worried! I've tried everything mentioned here - different devices, browsers, times of day (including that 3-5am window someone suggested), clearing cache, even tried my neighbor's wifi thinking it might be my internet connection. Same exact error message every single time on sa.www4.irs.gov: "We are sorry Where's My Refund is currently unavailable. Please try Where's My Refund again later. 428" What's really frustrating is seeing that form with all the required fields (SSN, tax year, filing status, refund amount) but not being able to get past the error to actually input anything. It's clearly a widespread server issue during peak tax season when we all need this service most. At least finding this community and seeing all your similar experiences confirms I'm not going crazy and didn't mess up my filing somehow! Hoping the IRS gets their act together soon because this is ridiculous timing for such a critical system to be down. Fingers crossed we all get through soon! π€
My ID.me account got suspended out of nowhere and I need to check my transcripts. Sent them an email days ago but crickets. Anyone know how to actually get in touch with them? Starting to get really frustrated since I need to check my refund status.
Had this exact same issue a few months back and it was maddening! Here's what finally got me through: First, definitely try that phone number Oliver mentioned but call right at 8am EST when they open - I got through in about 20 minutes vs the 3+ hour waits later in the day. Second, while you're waiting for ID.me to sort itself out, you can still get your transcripts other ways. The IRS2Go mobile app lets you check basic refund status without ID.me, and you can request transcripts by mail using Form 4506-T (just takes about a week). Also, if you're on Twitter/X, try messaging @IDmeSupport - their social media team actually responds way faster than email support. Hang in there, it's frustrating but you'll get through it! π€
Wow, thanks for all these detailed tips! The 8am calling strategy is clutch - never thought about timing it like that but makes total sense. Just tried the @IDmeSupport Twitter route and already got an auto-reply saying they'll look into it. Way more responsive than their email black hole! Also downloading IRS2Go right now. You're a legend for laying out all these options! π
Ugh, I feel you on this! ID.me suspended my account last year right when I needed to file an extension. What finally worked was a combo approach: I called their phone support at exactly 8am EST (way shorter wait), AND I also submitted a complaint through the IRS website about being unable to access my account. The IRS complaint seemed to light a fire under ID.me because they called me back within 24 hours to resolve it. Also, while you wait, you can still check your basic refund status using the "Where's My Refund" tool on irs.gov without needing ID.me - just need your SSN, filing status, and refund amount. Hope this helps!
Wait, you can file a complaint with the IRS about ID.me access issues? That's brilliant! I never thought about approaching it from that angle. The idea that the IRS complaint actually got ID.me to call you back is wild - shows they definitely respond faster when there's pressure from the IRS side. Definitely trying this combo approach! Also super helpful about the "Where's My Refund" tool working without ID.me - at least I can check basic status while dealing with this mess. Thanks for sharing what actually worked! π₯
Hey everyone! I'm a citizen of Italy trying to get a PTIN for tax preparation work. I just got rejected and I'm pretty frustrated about the whole process. I submitted a notarized copy of my passport, which I had done through an American online notary service. Today I received the rejection notice with a list of possible reasons: * Documentation expired, need current versions * Documents not on acceptable list * *Documents not notarized by a foreign notary* * Notarized documents not translated to English * Didn't include two current documents verifying identity and foreign status * At least one document must have a photograph * Documents must be government-issued notarized copies I'm pretty sure I got rejected because I used a US-based online notary instead of an Italian one. If I need to use an Italian notary, do I also need to get an apostille on the notarization? My passport has descriptions in both Italian and English, except for the country name and some visa stickers from the consulate on the ID mirror page. Should I get those translated and notarized too? I really want to get this right on the second attempt so they'll approve my PTIN application. Any advice would be super appreciated! Thanks!
As a newcomer to this community, I have to say this thread has been absolutely incredible to read through! I'm currently in the early stages of preparing my own PTIN application as a foreign national from the UK, and the level of detail and real-world experience shared here has been invaluable. What strikes me most is how consistent the issues seem to be across different countries - incorrect notarization, missing apostilles, and inadequate translations appear to be the main culprits for rejections. It's clear that the IRS is very strict about these requirements, but the rejection letters don't always provide the specific guidance needed to fix the problems. I'm particularly grateful for the cost breakdowns and timeline estimates various members have shared. Knowing that I should budget around Β£40-60 for notarization, Β£10-15 for apostille, and Β£80-120 for certified translation helps me plan financially. The 9-12 week total timeline (including document preparation) is also crucial for planning when to start this process. For other UK nationals who might be reading this, I plan to: 1. Use a UK solicitor or certified notary public for the passport notarization 2. Get the apostille through the FCO Legalisation Office 3. Have any non-English text translated by a certified translator registered with the Institute of Translation and Interpreting The services mentioned like Claimyr for reaching the IRS and taxr.ai for document analysis seem like they could be really helpful too, especially given how specific these requirements are. Thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences - this community support makes navigating these complex requirements so much more manageable!
Welcome to the community @Maria Gonzalez! Your planned approach for the UK looks spot-on based on everything that's been shared in this thread. The FCO Legalisation Office is definitely the right route for apostilles, and using ITI-registered translators shows you've done your homework. One small addition to your plan - make sure the UK solicitor or notary you use includes their practice certificate number and official seal on the notarization. I've seen some applications delayed because the notary didn't include sufficient identifying credentials, even though the notarization itself was valid. Also, since you mentioned timeline planning, I'd recommend starting the FCO apostille process as soon as you have the notarized documents. From what I understand, they can take 2-3 weeks currently, and you don't want that to be your bottleneck. The cost estimates you've outlined seem realistic too. It's definitely an investment upfront, but as everyone here has emphasized, getting it right the first time saves so much frustration and delay compared to facing multiple rejections. This thread really has become an amazing resource - I wish something like this had existed when I was going through my own PTIN application process! The collective wisdom shared here could probably save dozens of people from unnecessary rejections and delays. Best of luck with your application, and thanks for adding to the supportive atmosphere of this community!
As a newcomer to this community who's also dealing with PTIN application challenges as a foreign national (from Mexico), I wanted to add my recent experience to this incredibly helpful thread. I just went through my first rejection last month and found many of the same issues you all have described. What's particularly frustrating is that the rejection letter was quite vague - it just said "documents not properly notarized by foreign notary" without explaining what specifically was wrong. After reading through this discussion, I realized I made several mistakes: 1. I used a regular "notario pΓΊblico" instead of understanding I needed a more formal notarization 2. I completely missed the apostille requirement (had never heard of this before!) 3. I didn't get my Spanish text portions translated Based on everyone's experiences here, I'm now planning to: - Get my passport notarized by a "Notario PΓΊblico" with proper credentials in Mexico - Obtain an apostille from the "SecretarΓa de Relaciones Exteriores" - Have certified translations done for the Spanish portions - Use the cover letter approach @Callum Savage mentioned - Send everything via certified mail with tracking The timeline and cost information shared here has been invaluable for planning. It looks like I should budget around 2,500-3,000 pesos total and allow 8-10 weeks for the complete process. Thank you all for sharing such detailed experiences - this thread should be pinned as a resource for foreign nationals! The community support here makes navigating these complex requirements so much more manageable.
Welcome to the community @Jessica Nolan! Your experience with the vague rejection letter is unfortunately very common - so many of us have dealt with that same frustration. It's great that you found this thread before your second attempt! Your Mexican-specific plan looks solid based on all the experiences shared here. The SecretarΓa de Relaciones Exteriores is definitely the right authority for apostilles in Mexico. One small tip - when you go to the Notario PΓΊblico, make sure they include their "nΓΊmero de patente" (license number) clearly on the notarization. I've heard that can sometimes be an issue if it's not prominently displayed. The budget you've outlined (2,500-3,000 pesos) seems reasonable based on the cost breakdowns others have shared for their countries. And your 8-10 week timeline is realistic - it's smart to build in that buffer. One question - have you considered using any of the services mentioned in this thread like Claimyr to speak directly with the IRS before resubmitting? Given how vague your rejection letter was, it might be worth getting specific guidance about your case to avoid any other potential issues you might not have identified. This thread really has become an amazing resource! The collective experiences shared here could save so many people from multiple rejections. Thanks for adding your Mexican perspective - it helps build out the international knowledge base for future applicants. Best of luck with your resubmission!
Mateo Hernandez
I went through almost the identical situation with my employer last year! The "select single even though you're married" thing is unfortunately common with older payroll systems that haven't properly updated for the 2020 W-4 changes. Here's what worked for me: I printed out the official IRS W-4 form from irs.gov, filled it out correctly as "married filing jointly" and checked the box in Step 2(c) for two earners, then hand-delivered it to HR with a note saying "Please process this official IRS form as submitted." When they pushed back, I politely but firmly told them that forcing employees to select incorrect filing statuses violates IRS guidelines. The $212 withholding actually might be close to correct given your combined income. With you making $65k total and your husband making $27k, you're looking at roughly $92k household income, which puts you in a higher bracket than what standard withholding tables assume for individual jobs. Don't panic about the underwithholding so far, but definitely address it soon. I'd recommend using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator to see exactly where you stand for the year, then either increase his withholding even more for the remaining pay periods OR make an estimated tax payment using Form 1040-ES. The next estimated payment deadline is June 15th, but you can pay anytime online through IRS Direct Pay. You've got this - it's frustrating but totally fixable!
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Isaac Wright
This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing! I'm definitely going to try the printed form approach with HR - that's such a smart way to handle it. Quick question: when you had them process the official form, did your withholding immediately jump to a higher amount like what's happening with my husband's $212? I'm trying to figure out if that's actually the right amount or if their system is still messing up the calculations somehow.
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Brielle Johnson
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this mess - Target's payroll issues are unfortunately becoming notorious in tax communities. As someone who just went through a similar nightmare with my employer, I wanted to share what finally worked for me. First, absolutely do NOT let them force you to select "single" when you're married. This is completely wrong and will create ongoing tax problems. The real issue is that Target's payroll system hasn't been properly updated for the 2020 W-4 changes, so they're giving employees bad workarounds instead of fixing their software. Here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: 1. **Print the official IRS W-4 form** from irs.gov and fill it out correctly as "married filing jointly" 2. **Check the box in Step 2(c)** since you both work - this is crucial for dual-income households 3. **Hand-deliver it to HR** with a note requesting they process the official IRS form as submitted The $212 withholding might actually be closer to correct than you think. With your combined ~$92k income, you're probably looking at $7,000-8,000 in total federal taxes for the year. Having only $31 withheld so far means you're thousands of dollars behind. I'd strongly suggest using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online to see exactly where you stand, then consider making an estimated tax payment using Form 1040-ES before the June 15th deadline to avoid underpayment penalties. Document everything with HR - dates, conversations, who told you what. If this creates problems at tax time, you'll want that paper trail showing you tried to submit correct information but were given bad advice by your employer. You can get through this, but act quickly to avoid bigger problems next April!
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Tyler Lefleur
@Liam O'Sullivan For the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator, you'll want to enter both of your incomes together since you're married filing jointly. The tool is designed to handle multiple jobs and will give you specific instructions for each person's W-4. When you run it, make sure to include all the details: your $53k main job, $12k from part-time work, and your husband's $27k from Target. Also enter what's already been withheld this year (including that measly $31 from your husband's job). The calculator will then tell you exactly what needs to be adjusted on each of your W-4 forms to get the withholding right for the rest of the year. And yes, those quarterly estimated tax deadlines can sneak up on you! The dates are usually January 15th, April 15th, June 15th, and September 15th. Since you're so far behind on withholding, making a payment before June 15th could save you from underpayment penalties. You can pay online through the IRS Direct Pay system anytime - super convenient.
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Aisha Abdullah
@Liam O'Sullivan For the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator, you'll want to input both of your incomes together since you're married filing jointly. The calculator is designed to handle multiple jobs within the same household and will give you more accurate recommendations for withholding adjustments. When you run it, make sure to include: - Both of your current year-to-date earnings - Both of your expected total income for the year - Any withholding that's already happened (including that measly $31) - Information about your dependents (your 3-year-old and the baby coming) The calculator will then tell you exactly how much additional withholding is needed from which job to get you on track. It might even recommend adjusting withholding on your job instead of or in addition to your husband's, depending on which approach works better mathematically. And yes, those quarterly estimated payment deadlines are super important to know! The remaining ones for 2024 are June 15th, September 15th, and January 15th (for the final quarter). Missing them can result in underpayment penalties even if you ultimately get a refund when you file your return.
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