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Thanks everyone for the detailed responses! This is incredibly helpful. I've been stressing about this since the sale went through in January. Based on what you've all shared, it sounds like I have two main options: 1. Split the payments equally across four quarters (~$65k each for federal, plus the Washington state portion) 2. Use the annualized income installment method since all my gains happened in Q1 I'm leaning toward the annualized method since it seems more accurate for my situation, but I'm definitely going to keep detailed documentation as @StarGazer101 mentioned. One follow-up question - for the Washington state capital gains tax that @Yara mentioned ($73,500 on the amount over $250k), do they follow the same quarterly schedule as federal? And can I use the annualized method for state taxes too? Also going to check out both taxr.ai and potentially use Claimyr to get official IRS confirmation. With amounts this large, I'd rather be 100% certain I'm doing everything correctly. Better safe than sorry!
Welcome to the community! For Washington state's capital gains tax, yes they do follow the same quarterly payment schedule as federal (April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15). You can absolutely use the annualized income installment method for Washington state taxes too, which makes sense given your situation with all gains in Q1. Since you're new to dealing with large capital gains, I'd definitely recommend getting that IRS confirmation through Claimyr - especially with both federal and state obligations totaling over $330k. Having official guidance will give you confidence you're handling everything properly. The annualized method sounds like the right approach for your situation, but documentation will be key if either jurisdiction questions your calculations later.
Welcome to the community! Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who went through a similar large capital gains situation. One thing that really helped me was setting up a separate savings account specifically for the tax payments and transferring the estimated amounts immediately after the sale. With $1.3M in gains, you're looking at roughly $260k federal + $73.5k Washington state = ~$333k total. Having that money physically separated from my regular accounts prevented any temptation to spend it and gave me peace of mind. Also, since you mentioned this is your only income for 2025 during your sabbatical, make sure you're not missing any deductions you might be eligible for. Things like investment advisory fees, safe deposit box fees, or other investment-related expenses might help reduce your taxable gains slightly. The annualized method definitely sounds right for your Q1 sale situation. Just remember that even though it's more complex, it can save you from having large amounts tied up in overpayments to the government throughout the year. Good luck with everything!
Great advice about setting up a separate account! I'm actually just getting started with investing and this thread has been incredibly educational. I had no idea there were quarterly estimated payments required for capital gains - I thought you just paid everything when you filed your tax return. Quick newbie question: when you mention "investment advisory fees" as potential deductions, are those still deductible? I thought I read somewhere that miscellaneous itemized deductions were eliminated in recent tax changes. Or is this something different? Also, do you know if there's a minimum threshold for needing to make quarterly payments? Like if someone had smaller gains (say $50k), would they still need to do this whole quarterly payment thing?
I just want to echo what others have said - you're definitely not alone in this confusion! The W-4 changes really threw a lot of people off, and it sounds like your situation is textbook for what happened to many folks. One thing I'd add that I don't think anyone mentioned yet - when you do fill out that new W-4, make sure to use the IRS withholding calculator on their website (irs.gov) if you want to get really precise. It takes into account your specific pay frequency, current withholding amounts, and will tell you exactly what to put on the form. I used it last year after having a similar issue and it was spot-on. Way better than just guessing at how much extra to withhold. Plus it walks you through each step of the new W-4 format, which honestly still confuses me compared to the old allowances system. The fact that you went from getting $2,300 back to owing small amounts actually shows the system is working better for you now - you're just getting your money throughout the year instead of giving the government a free loan. A small adjustment should get you right where you want to be!
This is really helpful advice! I had no idea the IRS had their own withholding calculator - that sounds way more reliable than just guessing at numbers. I'm definitely going to try that before I submit a new W-4. You're right that getting my money throughout the year instead of a big refund is probably better, I just wasn't expecting the switch from refunds to owing money. It caught me off guard! But now that I understand what's happening, I feel much more confident about fixing it. Thanks for mentioning the IRS calculator specifically - having an official tool to get the exact numbers is exactly what I need. I really appreciate everyone's patience in explaining all this!
I'm glad to see so many helpful responses here! Just wanted to add one more perspective as someone who works in payroll. The transition from the old allowance-based W-4 to the new system has been a nightmare for both employees and employers. Many payroll systems had to be completely updated, and some companies are still working out the kinks years later. What you're experiencing is super common - the old "claim 0" strategy doesn't translate directly to the new system. The new W-4 tries to be more accurate by having you enter actual dollar amounts rather than allowances, but it requires you to be more hands-on with the calculations. A couple of practical tips: - When you fill out your new W-4, don't just leave everything blank thinking it's the same as claiming 0 - If you're single with one job and no dependents, you might actually want to check the box in Step 2(c) for "single or married filing separately" jobs - And definitely add that extra withholding amount others mentioned - even $10-15 per paycheck should solve your problem The good news is once you get it figured out with the new system, it should be much more accurate going forward. The old system was really just a rough estimate, but the new one can be more precise if you take the time to fill it out properly.
This is incredibly helpful insight from someone who actually works with payroll systems! I had no idea that companies were still dealing with transition issues from the W-4 changes - that explains so much about why my withholding seemed to get weird around the same time. Your point about not leaving everything blank on the new W-4 is really important. I think I made that exact mistake - I assumed leaving it mostly blank would be like claiming 0 on the old form. Can you clarify what you meant about checking the box in Step 2(c)? I want to make sure I understand that correctly before I fill out the new form. Also, do you have any insight into whether most companies have fully updated their payroll systems by now, or should I specifically ask my HR department if they're using the current W-4 calculations? Thanks for sharing your professional perspective - it's really reassuring to know this isn't just me being confused about taxes!
As someone who's dealt with both traditional banks and online banking for tax refunds, I'd say your preparation approach is spot-on. The fact that you're planning 45 days ahead and triple-checking your account details shows good financial discipline. From what I've observed in this community, Chime generally performs well for tax refunds with the added benefit of faster processing times compared to traditional banks. Since you're military and have that June PCS date looming, I'd suggest filing as early as possible once you receive your W-2s to avoid any potential complications during your move. Also, consider setting up email and text notifications in your Chime app so you'll be immediately alerted when the deposit hits - this can be especially helpful if you're dealing with the chaos of military relocation. The transition from USAA to Chime for government payments should be seamless, but having that buffer time before your move will give you peace of mind.
This is exactly the kind of thorough planning that makes military moves go smoothly! I just went through my first PCS last year and can't stress enough how important it is to handle financial stuff early. One thing I'd add - since you're switching from USAA, make sure you keep that account open until after your refund clears, just as a backup. I learned the hard way that having a fallback option during a move is crucial. Also, if you haven't already, consider downloading the IRS2Go app so you can track your refund status on the go during your PCS. The combination of early filing plus Chime's faster processing should give you plenty of buffer time before your move. Good luck with both the taxes and the upcoming relocation!
I've been using Chime for tax refunds since 2021 and it's been solid every year. The key thing that helped me was actually calling Chime's customer service (855-754-4637) before my first tax season to confirm they accept government deposits - they do, and they were pretty helpful about walking me through their process. Since you're coming from USAA, you'll probably appreciate that Chime doesn't put the typical 1-3 day hold on government deposits that some banks do. I usually get my refund on a Thursday or Friday when the IRS says Monday. One military-specific tip since you're PCSing in June - make sure you update your address with the IRS using Form 8822 if you move before your refund processes, even if you're using direct deposit. I learned this the hard way when they sent me a notice to my old address and it took weeks to sort out. Your triple-checking approach is smart - I do the same thing and screenshot my direct deposit info from the app as backup documentation.
Has anyone actually gotten audited for donation deductions? I've been paranoid about claiming some furniture I donated last year (worth about $3,000) because I only have a vague receipt from the charity. I've heard the IRS is especially picky about non-cash donations.
I got audited in 2022 specifically for charitable deductions! They questioned some artwork donations. My advice: take photos of everything you donate, get detailed receipts when possible, and for anything over $500 make sure you complete Form 8283 correctly. For items over $5,000, you actually need a professional appraisal. Documentation is your best protection.
Great question! Since you're dealing with $6,500 in donations, you'll definitely want to compare itemizing vs. standard deduction. The key is adding up ALL your potential itemized deductions - not just charitable contributions. This includes mortgage interest, state/local taxes (capped at $10k), medical expenses over 7.5% of your income, and your $6,500 in donations. For your donations, make sure you have proper documentation: bank records or receipts for cash donations, and written acknowledgments from charities for any single donation over $250. For your Goodwill donations, those absolutely count as charitable deductions! You'll need to determine fair market value (what someone would reasonably pay for the items in their used condition). Keep photos and detailed lists of donated items. One important note: if your total non-cash donations exceed $500, you'll need to file Form 8283 along with Schedule A. Also, be aware that charitable deductions are generally limited to 60% of your adjusted gross income for cash donations and 50% for non-cash donations, though this likely won't affect you at $6,500. The IRS provides valuation guides for common donated items on their website, which can help you properly value your clothing and household goods. Good record-keeping is essential - the IRS does scrutinize charitable deductions more closely than some other deductions.
This is really comprehensive, thank you! I'm curious about the fair market value determination for donated items - is there a specific IRS publication or tool that helps with valuing used clothing and household items? I've seen some online calculators but wasn't sure if they're reliable or if the IRS has their own guidelines. Also, when you mention keeping photos and detailed lists, how detailed should those lists be? Like, do I need to list every single shirt individually or can I group similar items together?
Muhammad Hobbs
Has anyone used a tax professional specifically for this? I tried asking my regular accountant and she seemed really uncertain about how to implement this correctly, which doesn't give me much confidence.
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Noland Curtis
ā¢I used a CPA who specializes in small businesses. The first meeting was pricey ($375) but totally worth it. She set everything up correctly from the start and provided all the documentation templates I needed. Now I just run the regular payroll and she handles the quarterly filings. What I learned is that most general tax preparers don't deal with this specific situation often enough to be experts at it. Look for someone who works specifically with family businesses or small LLCs.
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Bruno Simmons
This is exactly the kind of question I had when I started my LLC! One thing I learned the hard way is that you absolutely need to establish legitimate job duties and pay rates BEFORE you start paying them. The IRS looks for whether this is a real employment relationship or just a way to shift income to your kids. I recommend creating written job descriptions that match what they're actually doing, setting up regular work schedules (even if it's just a few hours after school), and paying them consistently - not just random amounts when you feel like it. The phone answering and filing work you mentioned is perfect because it's clearly legitimate business tasks. Also, make sure you're familiar with child labor laws in your state. Most states have restrictions on how many hours minors can work during school periods, and you want to stay within those limits even though they're your own kids. The payroll vs. 1099 question is important - definitely go with payroll as others have mentioned. Your children working under your supervision in your business are employees, not independent contractors.
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Oliver Becker
ā¢This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the child labor law aspect you mentioned. Do these restrictions apply even when it's your own kids working in your family business? I always assumed parents had more flexibility with their own children, but I want to make sure I'm not accidentally violating any regulations while trying to take advantage of the tax benefits. Also, when you say "pay them consistently," do you mean it has to be the exact same amount every pay period, or just that the payments need to be regular and based on actual hours worked?
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Jade Santiago
ā¢Great question about child labor laws! Even though they're your own kids, federal child labor laws still apply to family businesses in most cases. However, there is an exception for children working in businesses owned solely by their parents - so your single-member LLC should qualify for this exemption as long as you're the only owner. State laws can be different though, so definitely check your specific state's requirements. Some states are more restrictive than others about hours and types of work, even for family businesses. For the payment consistency - I mean regular payments based on actual hours worked, not necessarily the same dollar amount each time. The key is having a system: same pay rate per hour, regular pay periods (weekly, biweekly, etc.), and payments that correspond to documented work performed. So if they work 8 hours one week and 12 the next, the payments would be different but still consistent with your established pay structure. The IRS wants to see that this looks like a real employer-employee relationship, not just arbitrary money transfers disguised as wages.
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