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Great thread! I'm seeing a lot of helpful advice here. Just wanted to add that timing is absolutely critical for the Form 2553 election. Even after you get the state-level corporation established, remember that the S-Corp election must be filed by the 15th day of the 3rd month of the tax year you want it to take effect (March 15th for calendar year taxpayers). If you miss this deadline, you'll have to wait until the following tax year OR request late election relief under Revenue Procedure 2013-30, which requires showing reasonable cause for the delay. The IRS is pretty strict about this timing requirement. Also, make sure all shareholders (including the converted LLP partners who become shareholders) sign the Form 2553. Missing signatures are another common reason for rejection that I've seen in practice.
This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I wish I had when I first started handling entity conversions! The March 15th deadline is so easy to miss, especially when you're focused on getting the state-level conversion completed first. I've had clients where we successfully converted the LLP to a corporation at the state level but then missed the S-Corp election deadline by just a few days. Having to file for late election relief adds another layer of complexity and uncertainty that nobody wants to deal with. The signature requirement is another gotcha - I always create a checklist now to make sure every single shareholder has signed before submitting. One missing signature and you're back to square one with another rejection notice.
This is such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who's dealt with several entity conversions, I want to emphasize the importance of getting professional guidance early in the process. The two-step conversion process (state corporation formation first, then IRS S-Corp election) is absolutely critical, but there are so many nuances that can trip you up. Beyond the technical filing requirements, you really need to consider the broader business implications that Micah mentioned - liability structure changes, corporate formalities, shareholder restrictions, and exit planning implications. One thing I'd add is to make sure you're documenting everything properly throughout the conversion process. Keep detailed records of the state filing dates, corporate resolutions, and any correspondence with state agencies. This documentation becomes crucial if the IRS has questions about the conversion timeline or if you need to demonstrate reasonable cause for any timing issues. Also, don't underestimate the ongoing compliance burden that comes with S-Corp status. While the self-employment tax savings can be substantial, S-Corps require reasonable salary determinations for shareholder-employees, payroll tax compliance, and more rigorous bookkeeping. Make sure your client understands and is prepared for these ongoing requirements before making the switch.
This is incredibly helpful! I'm new to handling entity conversions and this thread has been a goldmine of information. Alice, your point about documentation is spot on - I can see how having a clear paper trail would be essential if the IRS questions anything down the road. One question I have - when you mention "reasonable salary determinations" for S-Corp shareholder-employees, how do you typically approach that calculation? I've heard the IRS scrutinizes this closely, but I'm not sure what benchmarks or methods are considered acceptable. Is there a safe harbor approach, or does it really depend on the specific industry and role? Also, for someone just starting to handle these conversions, are there any particular resources or guides you'd recommend for staying current on the compliance requirements? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything important for my clients.
Just wanted to add one more important point that I learned the hard way - make sure to keep detailed records of WHY your spouse qualified as a DEB at the time of inheritance. I'm dealing with this exact situation now where my husband has been on SSDI for years and inherited his father's IRA last year. The financial institution initially set up the account correctly as a DEB inherited IRA, but during a recent review, they questioned whether his SSDI status was sufficient documentation. Even though SSDI recipients generally qualify under IRC Section 72(m)(7), having a complete paper trail made all the difference. I recommend keeping copies of: the original SSDI award letter, recent benefit statements showing payments were active at the time of inheritance, and any medical documentation that was used in the SSDI determination process. This documentation package will save you headaches if the IRS or financial institution ever questions the DEB status. Also, regarding the Roth conversion question - we decided against it in our case because the RMD would push us into a higher tax bracket. Make sure to run the numbers on the tax impact before making that decision!
This is excellent advice about documentation! I'm just starting to deal with a similar situation where my spouse is on SSDI and we're expecting to inherit an IRA soon. Your point about keeping the complete paper trail is really valuable - I hadn't thought about needing the original award letter specifically. Quick question: when you say the RMD would push you into a higher tax bracket, did you consider doing partial conversions over multiple years instead of converting the full RMD amount? I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to strategically manage the tax impact while still getting some money into a Roth for tax-free growth. Also, do you know if the DEB status documentation needs to be provided upfront when setting up the inherited IRA, or can it be submitted later if questioned?
Great question about partial conversions! Yes, you can absolutely do partial Roth conversions over multiple years to manage the tax impact. In our case, we calculated that converting the full RMD would have pushed us from the 22% bracket into 24%, so instead we're doing smaller conversions each year to stay within our current bracket. For the documentation timing - it's much better to provide the DEB documentation upfront when establishing the inherited IRA. Most financial institutions will ask for it during the account setup process if you indicate the beneficiary qualifies as a DEB. However, if you didn't provide it initially, you can submit it later, but you'll want to do this before taking any distributions to ensure you're following the correct RMD schedule (life expectancy vs. 10-year rule). The key documents to have ready are: the SSDI award letter showing the disability determination date, benefit verification letters showing active payments at the time of inheritance, and Form SSA-1099 showing the benefits received. Having these ready upfront prevents any delays or complications with the account setup. One strategy we're using is taking the required RMD early in the year, then doing a separate Roth conversion later in the year when we have a better sense of our total tax picture. This gives us more control over the timing and tax impact.
This is really helpful information about managing the tax brackets with partial conversions! I'm new to this community and dealing with a similar inherited IRA situation. My spouse has been receiving SSDI for about 3 years now, and we're just starting to navigate the DEB requirements. One thing I'm still confused about - when you mention taking the RMD early in the year and doing a separate Roth conversion later, are you converting the same money that came from the RMD, or are you converting other funds? I want to make sure I understand the mechanics correctly since this seems like a smart strategy for tax management. Also, thank you for the specific list of documents needed. I've been worried about having the right paperwork ready, and your experience gives me confidence we're on the right track with our documentation.
Has anyone tried the self-study approach without buying a course? I'm on a really tight budget but determined to get this done.
I passed using mostly free resources. I used the IRS publications like someone mentioned above, plus free practice questions from Gleim (they offer some free samples). Also check YouTube - "Enrolled Agent Exam Review" by Tax Maven has decent free content. Harder route but doable if you're disciplined!
I'm in a similar situation as you - just starting my EA journey and feeling overwhelmed by all the study options out there! Reading through these responses has been really helpful. One thing I'm noticing is that everyone emphasizes the importance of practice questions, which makes sense since the exam tests application of knowledge rather than just memorization. I'm leaning toward starting with the free IRS materials and publications that Dylan mentioned to build my foundation, then investing in a comprehensive course once I understand the scope better. Has anyone found certain parts of the exam significantly harder than others? I'm trying to decide if I should tackle them in order (Parts 1, 2, 3) or start with whichever might be easiest to build confidence. Also curious about timing - how far apart did people space their exam attempts? Thanks for all the detailed advice so far - this community is incredibly helpful for newcomers like us!
Welcome to the EA journey! I'm also just getting started and have been lurking here for a while absorbing all this great advice. From what I've gathered reading through everyone's experiences, Part 1 seems to be the most straightforward since it covers individual taxation that many of us have some familiarity with from doing our own returns. I'm planning to follow a similar approach to what you mentioned - starting with the free IRS materials to get my bearings, then investing in a proper course. The consensus seems to be that while you can pass with free materials, having structured practice questions and explanations really makes a difference. One thing I'm curious about that I haven't seen addressed much - how long should we realistically plan for the entire process? If we're spacing out the three parts and allowing time for retakes if needed, are we looking at 6 months? A year? I want to set realistic expectations for myself. Good luck with your studies! Maybe we can check in with each other as we progress through this journey.
Just to add something useful - we handled our daughter's horse competition sponsorships by creating a simple DBA ("doing business as") registration for her, with us as guardians. Cost about $35 to register with the county. This created a legitimate business entity that could receive the sponsorship funds, issue proper receipts to sponsors, and track expenses appropriately. Her sponsors got proper documentation for their tax deductions, and we maintained her amateur status by documenting that all funds went directly to competition expenses. We keep a separate bank account for all this to make the accounting clean.
Did you have to get an EIN (Employer Identification Number) for this setup or did you just use your daughter's SSN? I'm thinking about doing something similar for my son who's getting equipment from his uncle's sporting goods store.
Great question about the EIN! We actually got an EIN for my daughter's DBA even though she's a minor - it makes everything cleaner from a banking and tax perspective. You can apply for an EIN online at irs.gov and it's free (don't pay third-party services that charge for this). Having the EIN allows you to open a business bank account separate from personal accounts, which is crucial for maintaining clean records. It also makes it easier when sponsors need to issue 1099s at year-end if the payments exceed $600. For your son's situation with equipment from your uncle's sporting goods store, you'll want to be careful about how you value and document those transactions. If it's truly sponsorship (logo placement, social media mentions, etc.), then the fair market value of the equipment would be considered income to your son's business, and your uncle could deduct it as a business expense. Make sure to document the retail value of any equipment provided. The key is maintaining proper documentation regardless of whether it's cash sponsorship or equipment sponsorship - the IRS treats them the same way for tax purposes.
This is really helpful information about getting an EIN! I'm completely new to all this tax stuff, so forgive me if this is a basic question - but when you say "sponsors need to issue 1099s at year-end if payments exceed $600," does that mean my brother-in-law would need to send us a 1099 if he pays my daughter more than $600 total for the year? And would that be a 1099-NEC since it's for services? Also, I'm curious about the business bank account - can a minor actually open one, or do I need to be on the account as well? I want to make sure we're doing everything properly from the start.
Hiroshi Nakamura
Could also be interest they paid you on your escrow account! My lender sent me a 1099 for $27.38 which was apparently the interest earned on my escrow funds. Totally forgot that was a thing, but if you live in a state that requires lenders to pay interest on escrow accounts, that might be it.
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Isabella Costa
ā¢This is a really good point. I'm in Connecticut and lenders are required to pay interest on escrow accounts here. Got a tiny 1099-INT for like $18 last year for this exact reason. Check if your state has this requirement!
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Diego Vargas
I went through this exact same confusion last year! In my case, the 1099-MISC was for a lender credit I received at closing that reduced my closing costs by $800. I had completely forgotten about it until I dug through all my closing paperwork. The tricky part is that these lender incentives (whether they're cashback, closing cost credits, or promotional bonuses) are considered taxable income by the IRS, even though they feel like discounts to us as borrowers. Your 1098 form for mortgage interest is completely separate and unaffected by this. If you still can't figure out what the 1099-MISC amount corresponds to, I'd recommend checking your Closing Disclosure (CD) form from your purchase. Look for any credits, rebates, or incentives listed there. The amount on your 1099-MISC should match one of those items. Sometimes they break down larger credits into smaller components too, so don't be surprised if the math isn't immediately obvious. When you file your taxes, you'll report this as "Other Income" and yes, you'll owe taxes on it at your regular income tax rate. It's annoying to discover after the fact, but at least now you know for any future home purchases!
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CosmicCrusader
ā¢This is super helpful! I'm a first-time homebuyer and had no idea that lender credits could be taxable income. I just closed on my house last month and received a $1200 lender credit to help with closing costs. Should I expect to get a 1099-MISC for that amount next year? I want to start preparing now so I'm not caught off guard like the original poster was. Also, do you know if there's a minimum threshold for when lenders have to issue these forms?
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