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AaliyahAli

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As someone who recently navigated the permanent resident tax filing maze, I can confirm that the International Taxpayer Services line (267-941-1000) mentioned by @NeonNebula is absolutely the way to go. I called the main IRS line five times over three weeks and kept getting transferred to departments that couldn't help with PR-1 specific questions. When I finally found the international line, the representative immediately understood my situation and walked me through the dual-status taxpayer requirements. They explained how to handle the transition period and which forms I needed based on when I actually became a permanent resident during the tax year. One additional tip: if you're dealing with any foreign bank account reporting (FBAR) requirements or have foreign assets, mention this upfront. They can address multiple international tax obligations in one call rather than having you contact different departments. The wait time on the international line was about 35 minutes when I called at 10 AM EST, which is significantly better than the 2+ hours I experienced on the general line. They also seemed much more patient and knowledgeable about the nuances of permanent resident tax situations. Good luck with your filing - the system is frustrating but once you reach the right people, they're actually quite helpful!

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This is such valuable firsthand experience, @AaliyahAli! Your timeline really helps put things in perspective - knowing that the international line wait was only 35 minutes versus 2+ hours on the general line is a huge relief. The fact that they could handle multiple international obligations in one call is exactly what I was hoping for. I'm particularly interested in your mention of dual-status taxpayer requirements. I became a permanent resident mid-year and wasn't sure if I needed to file as a resident for the entire year or split it. Did they provide you with specific guidance on how to handle that transition period, or did they point you to particular forms/publications? The FBAR mention is also timely - I do have a foreign bank account that I've maintained since before becoming a PR, and I wasn't sure how that reporting changes with permanent resident status. It sounds like they can address both the tax filing questions and FBAR requirements together, which would save multiple calls. Thanks for sharing the specific timing too (10 AM EST) - that gives me a good target for when to call. After reading all these responses, I'm feeling much more confident about getting the right help through the proper channels!

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Rami Samuels

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For permanent residents specifically, I'd also recommend having your I-551 (green card) and any previous ITIN documentation ready when you call. The IRS representatives will often need to verify your immigration status timeline to provide accurate guidance. One thing I learned the hard way: if you previously filed with an ITIN and now have an SSN as a permanent resident, make sure to mention this transition upfront. The IRS needs to link your previous tax records to your new SSN, and this can significantly impact how they handle your current filing questions. Also, consider calling on Tuesdays or Wednesdays between 10 AM - 2 PM EST. Based on my experience with various government agencies, these tend to be lower-volume times compared to Mondays (everyone calling after the weekend) and Fridays (people trying to resolve issues before the weekend). The International Taxpayer Services line that others mentioned really is your best bet. When I called, I specifically said "I'm a new permanent resident with questions about dual-status filing requirements and need to speak with someone familiar with immigration-related tax changes." This seemed to get me routed to the right specialist immediately rather than going through multiple transfers. Document everything - date, time, representative name/ID, and get reference numbers for your calls. The IRS system isn't perfect, and having this information has saved me from having to re-explain my entire situation on follow-up calls.

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This is incredibly thorough advice, @Rami Samuels! The ITIN to SSN transition point is something I hadn't even considered but makes total sense - I imagine that could create a lot of confusion in their system if not handled properly upfront. Your timing suggestion is really practical too. I've been calling randomly throughout the week and getting frustrated, but having a strategic approach to when I call (Tues/Wed 10 AM-2 PM EST) could make a huge difference. It's like there's a whole science to navigating government phone systems effectively! The documentation tip about getting reference numbers is gold. I've been taking notes but hadn't thought to ask for specific reference numbers from each call. That would definitely prevent having to start from scratch every time I need to follow up. One follow-up question - when you mentioned having I-551 ready, did they actually ask for specific information from the card (like the card number or issue date), or is it more about being able to confirm your permanent resident status and timeline? I want to make sure I have everything organized before I make the call. Thanks for sharing such detailed, actionable insights based on real experience. This thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding the best approach!

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8 Has anyone else noticed that Square's transaction counting seems really inconsistent? I'm also under the 200 transaction threshold according to them, but I definitely had more individual customers than that. I'm wondering if they're counting batched payments differently.

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10 Yeah, it's weird. I called Square support about this and they explained that if you use certain Square features like "Close Drawer" or if you process multiple payments at once through their system, it might count as fewer transactions. Also, their count is based on payment transactions, not individual customers or services provided. If you process a day's worth of cuts as a single batch, that's just one transaction in their system.

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8 Thanks for this info! That explains a lot. I close my drawer once a day usually, which would mean all those individual haircuts are being counted as a single transaction. No wonder I'm not hitting 200 transactions despite having way more customers.

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23 Just to clarify for everyone - the 1099-K threshold was actually supposed to change to $600 with NO minimum transaction count for 2022, but the IRS delayed implementing that change. They're sticking with the $20k AND 200 transactions rule for now, but be aware this will likely change in the future. When it does change, most of us with payment apps will get 1099-Ks even for much smaller amounts. So keep good records now and get in the habit of properly categorizing all your income. The IRS is getting more serious about payment app reporting.

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17 Do you know if they've announced when that $600 threshold will actually take effect? I keep hearing different things. Is it for 2023 tax year (filing in 2024) or pushed back again?

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The IRS has been pretty vague about the timeline, but last I heard they pushed it back again for 2023. They keep citing "implementation challenges" and wanting to avoid confusion. My accountant thinks it might not actually happen until 2024 tax year at the earliest, but honestly who knows at this point. The IRS seems to change their mind every few months on this. I'd just plan for it to happen eventually and keep detailed records regardless of what threshold is in place.

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I can definitely relate to your anxiety about this! I was in almost the exact same situation two years ago - owed about $3,800 through TurboTax and was constantly checking my bank account waiting for the withdrawal. The anticipation is honestly the worst part when you're not used to owing taxes. Based on my experience and what I've learned since then, TurboTax automatic payments typically take 3-5 business days from your scheduled date to actually process. Since you scheduled for April 10th, you should see the withdrawal sometime between now and early next week. The most important thing to remember is that the IRS considers your payment made on April 10th (when you scheduled it), not when the money actually leaves your account, so you're completely protected from any late penalties. A few things that helped me get through the waiting period: - Keep a buffer in your account until you see the withdrawal (don't move money around yet) - Save screenshots of your TurboTax payment confirmation for your records - Try to check your account only once a day instead of multiple times (I know it's hard!) - Remember that TurboTax batches payments which adds 1-2 extra days compared to paying directly through IRS.gov You did everything correctly by scheduling before the deadline, so try not to stress too much. The IRS processing system is just naturally slow, especially during peak tax season. You're going to be fine!

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Ethan Wilson

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This is such a helpful and thorough response! I'm actually going through this exact situation right now - filed through TurboTax and owe about $2,900, scheduled my payment for April 12th. It's now been 2 days and I'm definitely falling into that obsessive account-checking pattern you mentioned. Your point about TurboTax batching payments adding extra time compared to paying directly through IRS.gov is really good to know. I had no idea that could add 1-2 extra days to the processing time. That explains why some people seem to get their payments processed faster when they pay directly through the IRS website. I'm definitely going to follow your advice about limiting myself to checking once a day instead of every few hours. The anxiety is real when you're not used to owing money! Thanks for sharing your experience and all the practical tips - it's really reassuring to know that so many people have been through this same situation and everything worked out fine.

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I totally understand your anxiety! I went through something very similar last year when I owed about $2,650 through TurboTax - also my first time owing instead of getting a refund. The constant bank account checking is so real! From my experience, TurboTax automatic payments typically take 3-5 business days from your scheduled date. Since you scheduled for April 10th, you should see the withdrawal by early next week at the latest. The key thing that gave me peace of mind was understanding that the IRS considers your payment made on April 10th (when you scheduled it), not when the money actually comes out of your account. A few tips that helped me through the waiting: - Keep plenty of buffer money in your account until you see the withdrawal - Save screenshots of your TurboTax payment confirmation - Try to limit checking your account to once per day (I was checking like 20 times a day and driving myself crazy!) - Remember that TurboTax batches payments which can add an extra day or two compared to paying directly through IRS.gov You did everything right by scheduling before the deadline, so try not to stress too much. The waiting is definitely the hardest part, but you're covered! The IRS processing system is just slow, especially during tax season.

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Luca Esposito

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This is so helpful to read! I'm literally in the exact same boat - first time owing taxes and I filed through TurboTax owing about $3,200. I scheduled my payment for April 11th and have been checking my bank account obsessively ever since. It's such a relief to know that this anxiety is totally normal and that 3-5 business days is the standard timeframe. Your tip about limiting account checking to once a day is something I really need to follow - I think I've checked mine at least 15 times today alone! It's definitely making the anxiety worse. I had no idea that TurboTax batches payments which explains why it takes longer than paying directly through the IRS website. I'm going to take your advice and save screenshots of my confirmation page right now, and try to be more patient about the timing. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's so reassuring to know that other first-time tax-owers went through this exact same stress and everything worked out fine!

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Has anyone dealt with leaving a company but negotiating an extension on the exercise period? Most standard option agreements only give you 90 days after leaving to exercise, but I've heard some companies are flexible on this, especially when options are underwater.

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Ava Williams

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I successfully negotiated a 2-year extension at my last company. Approach your HR or finance team and make the case that the 90-day window is punitive when options are underwater. Many companies are becoming more flexible about this since it's a retention tool that costs them nothing when the stock is below strike price.

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Oscar O'Neil

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One additional consideration that might help with your decision - if you're planning to leave the company anyway, you could potentially negotiate with your employer to extend the exercise window beyond the typical 90-day post-employment period. This would give you more time to see how the company performs with that Q3 product launch you mentioned. Also, make sure you understand exactly what type of options you have (ISO vs NSO) as this affects the tax treatment. With ISOs, you generally have better tax advantages if you hold the stock for at least one year after exercise and two years after grant date to qualify for long-term capital gains treatment. Given that you're essentially guaranteed a loss if you exercise now, it might be worth having a conversation with your company about either repricing the options to current FMV or extending your exercise window. Many companies are becoming more flexible about this, especially in situations like yours where the employee would be financially penalized through no fault of their own.

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about negotiating an extension on the exercise period. Given that I'm leaving next month and the options are underwater, it seems like a win-win - the company doesn't lose anything by extending since the options are worthless right now, and I get more time to see if that Q3 product launch actually turns things around. Do you have any tips on how to approach this conversation with HR? Should I frame it as a retention tool even though I'm already leaving, or focus more on the fact that the current situation puts me at a financial disadvantage through no fault of my own? Also, you mentioned ISO vs NSO treatment - mine are ISOs, so I'd need to hold for a year after exercise to get the better tax treatment. An extension would definitely help with that timing if I do decide to exercise.

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Mei Zhang

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Small thing to add - if you're using the standard mileage rate and deducting tolls separately, make sure you're only deducting the business portion of those tolls. If you use your car 70% for business and 30% personal, you can only deduct 70% of the tolls.

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What's the best way to calculate that percentage? Do I need to track total miles for the year and then figure out how many were business miles?

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Yes, that's exactly right! You'll want to keep a mileage log throughout the year tracking your total miles driven and which trips were for business purposes. At the end of the year, divide your business miles by total miles to get your business use percentage. For example, if you drove 20,000 total miles and 14,000 were for business, that's 70% business use. Then you'd only deduct 70% of your toll expenses as business deductions. The IRS expects contemporaneous records, so it's much better to track this as you go rather than trying to recreate it at tax time. A simple smartphone app or even a notebook in your car works great for logging business trips and their purposes.

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Great question! I went through this exact same situation last year with my freelance work. The good news is that toll expenses are definitely deductible separately from the standard mileage rate - they're specifically excluded from what the standard rate covers. Just a heads up though - make sure you're only deducting the business portion of those tolls. If you use your car for both business and personal driving, you'll need to calculate the percentage that's business use and only deduct that portion of your toll expenses. Also keep in mind that if you're an employee rather than self-employed, unreimbursed business expenses like this are generally not deductible under current tax law (suspended through 2025), unless you fall into certain categories like qualified performing artists or military reservists. Those EZ Tag receipts will be perfect documentation - just make sure to keep a detailed log of which trips were business-related so you can match them up with the toll charges. Good luck with your taxes!

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Mei Liu

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This is really helpful! I'm just starting out with freelance consulting and had no idea about the business percentage calculation. So if I'm understanding correctly, I need to track ALL my driving throughout the year, not just business trips? That seems like a lot of record keeping. Is there a simpler way to estimate this, or does the IRS really expect exact mileage logs for everything?

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