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Don't forget to call the IRS after sending important faxes to confirm they received them! I learned this the hard way when I faxed my offer in compromise docs and assumed they got them, only to find out 2 months later they had no record of receiving anything. Now I always follow up with a call about a week after sending anything critical.
Great advice from everyone here! I'd also add that if you're sending time-sensitive documents like amended returns or payment agreements, consider sending them through multiple channels (fax AND certified mail) for extra security. I've had situations where the IRS received one but not the other, and having both methods gave me backup proof of timely filing. Also, always keep your fax confirmation receipts - I scan mine and save them digitally with my tax files. The IRS can be slow to update their systems, so even if they received your fax, it might not show up in their records for several weeks when you call to check. One more tip: if you're faxing forms that require signatures, make sure your signatures are dark and clear on the scanned document. Light or blurry signatures can cause processing delays.
This is excellent advice! I'm dealing with my first amended return and was planning to just fax it, but sending through both channels makes so much sense for peace of mind. Quick question - when you send through both methods, do you need to include any special notation on the documents to indicate you're submitting via multiple channels? I don't want to accidentally create duplicate processing issues with the IRS.
Thank you all for this incredibly helpful discussion! As someone new to navigating grad school finances, this has been so educational. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and tools. A couple follow-up questions based on what I've learned here: 1. Since my son will be getting a W-2 for his research assistant position, should we expect any federal or state taxes to already be withheld from his stipend payments, or will he need to make quarterly estimated payments? 2. For the record-keeping that several people mentioned - what specific documents should we be sure to save beyond the W-2? Should we request something in writing from the university specifically documenting the tuition waiver amount and its tax-free status? 3. His program is 5 years, so we want to make sure we're setting him up for success long-term. Are there any common mistakes grad students make in years 2-5 that we should be aware of now? This community has been amazing - I feel so much more confident about helping him navigate this properly now. The tools mentioned (taxr.ai and Claimyr) sound like great backup options if we run into complications down the road.
Welcome to the community! Great questions - let me help with those follow-ups: 1. For the W-2 situation, most universities do withhold federal and state taxes from stipend payments, but often not enough. Grad student stipends are treated as regular wages, so they'll withhold based on standard tax tables, but they might not account for things like the standard deduction properly. I'd recommend having your son check his first few paystubs to see what's being withheld and compare it to what his actual tax liability might be. If it looks low, he can submit a new W-4 to increase withholding or make quarterly payments. 2. For record-keeping, definitely save: the W-2, any documentation about the tuition waiver (sometimes called a "tuition remission letter"), the 1098-T if the university sends one, and any official correspondence about his funding package. I'd also recommend taking screenshots of any online portals that show the funding breakdown, since these can disappear when systems change. 3. Common mistakes in later years include: not updating tax withholding when stipend amounts change, forgetting to report any summer funding that might be processed differently, and not keeping track of education-related expenses that could qualify for deductions. Also, if he switches from RA to TA or vice versa, the paperwork might change. You're being such a supportive parent by helping him get organized early!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of understanding how summer funding might be handled differently. Many grad programs have different funding structures for summer months - sometimes it's research assistant wages (W-2), sometimes it's fellowship money (1099 or no form at all), and sometimes students are on their own to find funding. I learned this the hard way when my summer research stipend was processed as a fellowship rather than wages, which meant no taxes were withheld at all. I ended up with a surprise tax bill the following year because I wasn't prepared for the different treatment. If your son's program has summer funding, I'd recommend asking the graduate program coordinator or financial aid office specifically how summer stipends are classified and reported. This way you can plan ahead for any potential tax differences rather than being caught off guard later. Some students end up needing to make quarterly estimated payments during summer months if taxes aren't being withheld from fellowship-type funding. Also, international students have completely different tax rules that can be even more complex, but I'm assuming your son is a US citizen/resident based on your post. Just wanted to mention it in case it's relevant for anyone else reading this thread!
This is such an important point about summer funding! I wish I had known this when my daughter started her program. Her first summer she got what she thought was just a continuation of her regular stipend, but it turned out to be classified as a fellowship with zero tax withholding. We ended up scrambling to make estimated payments in the fall when we realized what had happened. One thing I'd add is to also ask about how conference travel funding and research expense reimbursements are handled. My daughter's program sometimes gives students money upfront for conferences (which might be taxable) versus reimbursing expenses after the fact (usually not taxable). The timing and classification can make a big difference come tax time. @185bf088fa41 For your son's 5-year program, I'd definitely recommend having him check with the graduate coordinator each year about any changes to funding structure, especially as he transitions from coursework to dissertation phases. Some programs change how they classify students once they advance to candidacy, which can affect the tax treatment of their funding.
Does anyone know if the IRS is still doing that first-time penalty abatement I've heard about? I'm in almost the identical situation (unfiled 2022-2023, self-employed) and wondering if that could help me?
Yes, First-Time Penalty Abatement (FTA) is still available! To qualify, you need to have: 1) No penalties for the 3 tax years prior to the year you're requesting abatement 2) Filed all currently required returns or filed extensions 3) Paid, or arranged to pay, any tax due The IRS doesn't advertise this program widely, but you should definitely request it after you file your past-due returns. It can wipe out the failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties for one tax year, which could save you thousands depending on how much you owe.
Victoria, I completely understand that crushing anxiety - I was in your exact shoes 18 months ago with unfiled returns from my freelance graphic design work. The panic attacks were real, but I promise you this is absolutely manageable. Here's your immediate action plan: **STEP 1:** Contact your bank ASAP and request detailed statements for 2022-2023. Most banks can provide up to 7 years of records. Also check any business banking apps, PayPal, Venmo, or Zelle for transaction histories. **STEP 2:** Reach out to clients you worked with during those years. Many will still have records of payments made to you, and some might even have copies of invoices you sent them. **STEP 3:** Check your email for ANY business-related correspondence - contract confirmations, payment notifications, expense receipts, travel bookings, etc. This can help reconstruct your business activities. **STEP 4:** File those returns IMMEDIATELY, even if incomplete. The failure-to-file penalty is much worse than failure-to-pay, and it stops accruing once you file. For penalties: You're likely looking at 5% per month (max 25%) for failure-to-file, plus 0.5% per month for failure-to-pay, plus interest. But if you qualify for first-time penalty abatement, you can get one year's penalties completely waived. The IRS has payment plan options if you can't pay everything at once. Don't let fear paralyze you - every day you wait, the penalties grow. You've got this!
Just to add some perspective - I work at an accounting firm and see this ALL THE TIME. Adjustments can go either way, but most commonly it's because: 1. You made a math error 2. You claimed a credit incorrectly 3. You reported withholding differently than what your employer reported 4. They applied an offset from another debt 5. They found additional income reported to them that wasn't on your return The good news is they're processing your return and you're getting at least some refund. The explanation letter will arrive eventually, but their system is crazy backed up so don't be surprised if it comes after your deposit.
From ur experience, are the adjustments usually in favor of the taxpayer or the state lol
Honestly? About 70% of the time it favors the state. But that's because people make mistakes that benefit themselves more often than mistakes that benefit the state. But I've seen plenty of adjustments where people get MORE money back too.
Don't stress too much about this! I've been through NYS tax adjustments multiple times and they're honestly pretty routine. The fact that you already have a deposit date scheduled is actually a good sign - it means they've finished reviewing your return and determined you're still getting money back. The most important thing is that you'll get that explanation letter before or around the time your refund hits. In my experience, common adjustments include simple math corrections, differences in reported income vs what employers submitted, or credits that needed verification. Sometimes the adjustment is even in your favor! Since you mentioned you're really anxious about it, you could try calling them directly if waiting for the letter is too stressful. But honestly, March 7th isn't that far away, and you'll likely have your answer soon. Try not to assume the worst - plenty of us have been in your shoes and it usually works out fine. Keep us posted on what the adjustment was once you find out! Good luck! π€
Thanks for the reassuring perspective! As someone new to dealing with tax adjustments, it's really helpful to hear from people who've been through this before. The waiting and not knowing is definitely the worst part. I'm trying to stay optimistic that it might even be good news, but my anxiety brain keeps assuming the worst case scenario. I'll definitely update everyone once I get that letter or the deposit comes through. This community has been so helpful in calming my nerves about the whole situation! π
Diego Chavez
One important detail that hasn't been mentioned yet - since you're starting a new job in November 2024, make sure to account for any withholding that already happened earlier this year from your previous employer. The W4 calculator assumes you're working the full year at that salary level. If you had a different job earlier in 2024 with different withholding amounts, you'll need to manually adjust the calculator inputs to reflect your actual year-to-date withholding and income. Otherwise, you might end up over-withholding for the remaining paychecks. Also, for your $15k side gig income - if this is 1099 work, remember you'll also owe self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare) on that income, which is about 15.3%. The withholding calculator accounts for income tax on that $15k, but not the additional self-employment tax. You might need to withhold even more than the calculator suggests, or make quarterly estimated payments to cover that SE tax portion.
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Jade Lopez
β’This is such a crucial point that Diego raised about the self-employment tax! I made this exact mistake when I first started freelancing. The IRS withholding calculator definitely doesn't account for SE tax, and at $15k of side income, that's an additional $2,295 in taxes that won't be covered by your regular W4 withholding. You might want to consider setting up quarterly estimated payments specifically for the SE tax portion, rather than trying to squeeze all of that through your W4. It can get pretty complicated trying to withhold enough from your regular job to cover both the income tax AND the SE tax on your side gig income. Also, don't forget you can deduct the employer portion of SE tax (about half of it) when calculating your adjusted gross income, which the calculator might not be factoring in correctly either.
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Freya Christensen
Adding to the excellent points about self-employment tax - there's another consideration for your W4 withholding that might help explain the difference between 2024 and 2025 calculations. The IRS withholding calculator for 2025 is likely factoring in the scheduled expiration of several TCJA provisions, including changes to the child tax credit, earned income tax credit, and other credits that could affect your overall tax liability. This might be why you're seeing a lower additional withholding recommendation for 2025 ($180 vs $250). However, since you mentioned owing $1,200 last year, I'd strongly recommend being conservative with your withholding. Consider using the higher 2024 amount ($250) even when you switch to 2025 calculations next year, at least until we have more clarity on what tax legislation Congress will actually pass. For your immediate situation starting in November, you'll definitely want to increase that per-paycheck withholding significantly since you'll only have a few paychecks left in 2024. You might also want to consider making a fourth-quarter estimated payment in January 2025 to cover any shortfall from your side gig income, especially the self-employment tax portion that others mentioned.
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Ava Johnson
β’This is really helpful advice about being conservative with withholding! As someone new to this community, I'm wondering - when you mention making a fourth-quarter estimated payment in January 2025, don't quarterly payments need to be made by January 15th for the fourth quarter of the previous year? I want to make sure I understand the timing correctly since I'm also dealing with multiple income sources and trying to avoid underpayment penalties. Also, with all this talk about the TCJA provisions expiring, should I be planning to update my W4 multiple times throughout 2025 as Congress (hopefully) clarifies what they're going to do with the tax rates? It seems like there's a lot of uncertainty built into these calculations right now.
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