Form 941 (Wage Reporting) Deadline - March 12 or March 31? New Employer Confused
So I just started my own small business and hired my first employee who started on March 18th. I've been using Quickbooks payroll to handle everything automatically, which has been pretty seamless until now. But I'm totally confused about Form 941 reporting. When I went to create the Form 941 for my first quarter, something weird happened. Line 1 (asking how many employees I paid, including March 12) showed 0 employees, but line 2 already had payroll amounts filled in for the last two weeks of March when my employee actually worked. I'm scratching my head because Line 1 specifically mentions March 12, but I thought Form 941 was for the entire quarter ending March 31? Should I even be filing a Form 941 for this quarter since my employee started after March 12, or should I wait until Q2 (June) to file my first 941? This is my first time dealing with payroll taxes and I want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly. Any help would be appreciated!
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Owen Devar
The confusion is understandable! Let me clarify Form 941 reporting for you. Line 1 of Form 941 specifically asks for the number of employees who received wages, tips, or other compensation for the pay period that includes March 12. This is just a census question to track employment - it's asking for a specific point-in-time count. Since your employee started on March 18, after the March 12 date, you correctly show 0 for Line 1. Line 2, however, reports ALL wages paid during the entire quarter (January 1 through March 31). Since you paid wages in the last two weeks of March, those amounts correctly appear on Line 2. You should absolutely file Form 941 for this quarter even though Line 1 shows zero. The IRS uses Line 1 just for statistical purposes, while the tax calculations are based on actual wages paid during the entire quarter as reported on Line 2 and subsequent lines.
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Daniel Rivera
•That makes sense, but I'm still a bit confused. If I file the Q1 Form 941 with zero employees on Line 1 but wages on Line 2, will that trigger any red flags with the IRS? Also, when do I actually need to submit this form by?
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Owen Devar
•Filing with zero employees on Line 1 but wages on Line 2 won't trigger any red flags. This is a common situation for businesses that hire employees after the March 12 pay period. The IRS understands this scenario well. For the filing deadline, Form 941 for Q1 (January-March) must be filed by April 30. If you've been making tax deposits on time, you get an extended deadline until May 10. Make sure you continue to file Form 941 quarterly going forward - April 30, July 31, October 31, and January 31 are your standard deadlines.
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Sophie Footman
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Connor Rupert
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Molly Hansen
•I'm suspicious of these online tax tools. How is this better than just calling my accountant? Did it actually handle all the Form 941 specifics correctly or just give general advice?
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Sophie Footman
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Molly Hansen
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Brady Clean
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Skylar Neal
•How long did it take for Claimyr to get someone from the IRS? And did they actually connect you with someone who knew about Form 941 specifically or just a general rep?
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Vincent Bimbach
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Brady Clean
•It took about 2.5 hours total, but I was only on the phone for about 5 minutes - they did all the waiting. They got me connected to someone in the business tax department who was extremely knowledgeable about Form 941 specifically. I was skeptical at first too, but they don't actually listen to your call - they just connect you directly with the IRS agent when they get through. I've called the IRS many times before and had to waste entire mornings on hold, so this saved me enormous time. Plus, I got clear confirmation that my situation with Form 941 Line 1 was completely fine and properly documented everything.
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Vincent Bimbach
I take back what I said about Claimyr. After struggling for DAYS trying to get through to someone at the IRS about my Form 941 issue (same problem with the March 12 date), I finally gave in and tried it. Within 3 hours I was talking to an actual IRS representative who confirmed exactly what others here said - it's completely normal to have 0 employees on Line 1 but wages reported elsewhere if you hired after March 12. She even noted it in my file so there won't be any issues. Honestly wish I'd done this sooner instead of stressing for days. The peace of mind from getting an official answer was worth it.
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Kelsey Chin
I've been doing payroll for small businesses for 15 years, and this March 12 thing on Form 941 confuses new employers every quarter! Here's the simple explanation: the IRS uses Line 1 (the March 12 count) purely for statistical purposes - it's a consistent "point in time" snapshot they use to track employment trends. The actual tax part of Form 941 (Line 2 and beyond) is what matters for your tax liability, and that covers the ENTIRE quarter. So yes, you absolutely file for Q1 even with zero employees on Line 1. And if QuickBooks calculated payroll taxes for those March wages, you're required to report and remit those taxes using Form 941.
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Norah Quay
•Does the same apply to the pay period including Dec 12 on the Q4 Form 941? I've always wondered why they picked these specific dates.
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Kelsey Chin
•Yes, it's exactly the same for the December 12 date on the Q4 form. The IRS chose these specific mid-month dates (March 12, June 12, September 12, and December 12) because they wanted consistent points of reference that wouldn't be affected by varying pay periods across different companies. By choosing dates in the middle of the month, they avoid end-of-month fluctuations and get more stable statistical data about employment trends. The actual tax calculations always cover the full quarter regardless of these census dates.
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Leo McDonald
Has anyone noticed that sometimes QuickBooks does this wrong?? When I first started payroll last year, QuickBooks automatically filled in Line 1 with my employee count even though none were employed during the pay period that included March 12. I had to manually correct it.
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Jessica Nolan
•Yes! Quickbooks sometimes pulls the wrong employee count for Line 1. I think it's just looking at whether you had employees at any point in Q1 rather than specifically checking the pay period that includes the census date. Always double-check that field before filing.
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Oliver Weber
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar boat as Brooklyn - just started my business in February and hired my first employee on March 20th. I was panicking when I saw the March 12 date on Line 1 and thought I'd somehow messed up my quarterly filing. Reading through all these responses, it's clear that the March 12 date is just a statistical snapshot and doesn't affect the actual tax calculations. It's reassuring to know that having 0 employees on Line 1 but wages reported elsewhere is completely normal for businesses like ours that hired after that census date. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - especially the confirmation that this won't trigger any red flags with the IRS. As a new business owner, every tax form feels like walking through a minefield, so having this community to learn from is invaluable!
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Pedro Sawyer
•I completely agree! This thread has been a lifesaver for understanding the Form 941 confusion. I'm also a new business owner who started in late March and was totally baffled by the March 12 reference on Line 1. It's such a relief to know this is a common issue and that the IRS expects to see situations where Line 1 shows zero employees but other lines have wage data. The explanation about it being purely statistical makes so much sense now. I was worried I'd need to wait until Q2 to file my first 941, but now I understand I need to file for Q1 since I actually paid wages during that quarter. Really appreciate everyone sharing their real-world experiences - it makes navigating these tax requirements as a newcomer so much less intimidating!
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