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Yuki Tanaka

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got my 290 today after 6 months of waiting. there is hope! šŸ™

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Carmen Diaz

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congrats! how long after the 290 did you get your refund?

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Yuki Tanaka

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about 2 weeks! hang in there

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Just wanted to share my experience with these codes since I see so many people struggling! I had a 570 code for about 3 months and was losing my mind calling the IRS every week. Turns out it was just a routine income verification hold - they were cross-checking my W-2s with what my employer reported. Got through it by being patient and not panicking. The key thing I learned is that 570 doesn't always mean you did something wrong, sometimes it's just their system being extra cautious. For anyone dealing with this - document everything, keep calling every 2 weeks (not daily), and don't let them tell you to "just wait" without giving you a timeframe. You got this! šŸ’Ŗ

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@Giovanni Gallo This is so helpful! I m'currently dealing with a 570 code for about 4 weeks now and was starting to stress that I did something wrong. Your explanation about income verification makes me feel much better - I had a regular job plus some DoorDash income last year, so that probably flagged their system. I ve'been calling way too much sometimes (twice a day when I get anxious and) just getting the same runaround each time. Your strategy of calling every 2 weeks is smart and will probably save my sanity lol. Did you have to provide any additional documents during those 3 months, or did they handle the verification internally? Also, when it finally resolved, did your refund come through pretty quickly after that or was there still more waiting? Thanks again for sharing your experience - it really helps to hear from someone who actually made it through this process! šŸ™

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@Giovanni Gallo This is incredibly reassuring to read! I m'currently stuck with a 570 code for about 2 months now and was honestly starting to panic that I d'messed something up majorly on my return. Your explanation about routine income verification makes so much sense - I had regular W-2 income plus some contract work and rental income last year, so that probably triggered their review system. I ve'definitely been guilty of the daily calling habit and just getting more frustrated each time with the same generic responses. Your approach of calling every 2 weeks is brilliant - gives them time to actually work on it and probably keeps me from being labeled as one of those "callers" šŸ˜… Really appreciate you sharing the realistic 3-month timeline too, helps set proper expectations. Quick question - did you end up having to mail in any additional documentation during those 3 months, or did they complete their verification using just what they already had in their systems? Thanks for giving us all some hope! šŸ’Ŗ

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CosmicCadet

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What nobody's mentioned is how being a "US person" makes banking overseas a nightmare. I'm a dual US/German citizen and banks here hate dealing with US reporting requirements. Some even closed my accounts when FATCA came in! If you stop filing US taxes you might fly under the radar for years, but eventually something will trigger attention - maybe trying to move that investment, getting a large inheritance, or buying property. Then you'll face back filing for all those missing years plus penalties. The "head in sand" approach feels good short term but can be expensive long term. I tried it for 3 years and ended up paying way more to fix it than if I'd just kept filing.

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Chloe Harris

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The banking issues are no joke. I couldn't even open a retirement account in Spain because I checked the "US citizen" box on the application. Is that happening in New Zealand too?

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I'm an American living in New Zealand and can relate to your frustration! The banking situation here isn't as bad as some European countries, but it's definitely getting more complicated. Most major banks (ANZ, ASB, Westpac) will still open accounts for US citizens, but they ask a lot more questions now and some investment products are off-limits. One thing that might help with your immediate cost problem - have you looked into the IRS Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) program? They sometimes have virtual sessions specifically for expats, and it's completely free if you qualify (which you likely would based on your income level). The quality can be hit-or-miss, but it might be worth trying before paying hundreds again. Also, since you mentioned you're in Australia - the US-Australia tax treaty has some provisions that could help reduce your filing burden. Australia's superannuation system has specific treaty protections that most tax preparers don't even know about. The nuclear option of renouncing citizenship is expensive upfront ($2,350 now), but if you're truly never planning to live in the US and the annual filing costs keep adding up, it might be worth saving for over a few years. Just make sure you understand the exit tax implications first, especially with that investment account.

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This is really helpful information! I had no idea about the VITA program for expats - definitely going to look into that. The virtual sessions sound perfect since I'm not exactly close to a US tax office here in Australia. Quick question about the US-Australia tax treaty - when you mention superannuation protections, does that apply to regular investment accounts too? My investment account isn't technically a retirement account, it's just a regular brokerage account my grandparents set up. I'm wondering if there are any treaty benefits I could be missing out on that might reduce the complexity of my filing. Also really appreciate the reality check on renunciation costs vs annual filing costs. You're right that it might make sense to save up for it over a few years if the alternative is paying $400+ annually forever. Though the exit tax thing sounds scary - is that something that would apply to a $15k investment account?

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Zadie Patel

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Does anyone use a specific app for tracking gambling? I've been using a spreadsheet but wondering if there's something better. My casino trips are usually multiple days and I play different games each day, so it gets complicated fast.

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I've been using the Gambition app for about a year now. It lets you log sessions by game type and has fields for all the important tax info - date, location, buy-in, cash out, witnesses, etc. You can even take photos of receipts and attach them to sessions.

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Ellie Lopez

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As someone who's dealt with gambling record-keeping for several years, I'd recommend keeping it simple but consistent. Your approach of noting date, location, game type, and net win/loss is actually quite good - the IRS understands that detailed hand-by-hand tracking isn't practical for table games. What I've found helpful is to supplement basic session logs with any receipts you can collect: ATM withdrawals, cash-out tickets, comp receipts, even parking stubs. These help corroborate your gambling activity and show you were actually at the casino on the dates you claim. For blackjack specifically, I usually note my buy-in amount, any significant wins during the session (like if I hit blackjack several times or had a particularly good/bad streak), and my final cash-out. The key is being able to demonstrate a reasonable pattern of gambling activity that matches any W-2Gs you receive and supports the losses you're claiming as deductions. Don't overthink it - consistency in your record-keeping method is more important than capturing every minute detail.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to casino gambling and wasn't sure how detailed my records needed to be. The parking stub idea is clever - I never would have thought of that as supporting documentation. Quick question: when you mention "any W-2Gs you receive" - at what point do casinos issue those? Is it for any jackpot over a certain amount, or only for really big wins? I want to make sure I'm prepared if I hit something significant.

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Freya Thomsen

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This is such a common challenge for growing businesses! I've been through this exact situation with our company when we expanded to remote workers in 6 states. Here's what I learned: Yes, you'll likely need to register as a foreign entity in each state where you have employees, but the good news is that you won't pay full taxes on all profits in every state. Each state uses apportionment formulas to determine what portion of your income is taxable there - typically based on factors like payroll, property, and sales in that state. The key is getting organized early. I'd recommend: 1. Document exactly what business activities happen in each state (not just where employees live) 2. Understand each state's specific nexus thresholds - some have minimum requirements before you need to file 3. Consider whether your remote workers are just living in those states vs. actually conducting business there For a medical device R&D company, if your actual R&D activities and operations are centralized in one state, you might have less nexus exposure than you think. The remote workers might just create payroll tax obligations rather than full business income tax nexus in some states. Definitely worth consulting with a multi-state tax specialist to map out your specific situation before diving into registrations everywhere.

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This is exactly the kind of scenario that keeps business owners up at night! I went through something similar when we had remote employees in 4 states. One thing that really helped was creating a detailed matrix of each state's requirements - not just for income taxes, but also for sales tax, unemployment insurance, workers' compensation, and any professional licensing requirements. A few additional considerations that caught me off guard: - Some states have "throwback" rules that can affect your apportionment calculations - Certain states have different nexus thresholds for different types of taxes (income vs. sales vs. payroll) - If any of your remote workers are handling sales activities, that could create additional nexus considerations beyond just having employees For medical device R&D specifically, you'll want to pay close attention to where your intellectual property is being developed and used. Some states have specific rules about how IP income gets sourced and taxed. The administrative burden is real, but there are definitely strategies to streamline it. Consider implementing a centralized system for tracking employee work locations and activities from day one - it makes the apportionment calculations much easier come tax time. Would be happy to share more specifics about what worked for us if you're interested!

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Sofia Perez

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! The point about IP development location is something I hadn't even considered - that could definitely complicate things for our R&D operations. Would you mind sharing what that centralized tracking system looked like for your company? I'm trying to figure out the best way to document employee activities across states from the beginning rather than trying to reconstruct it later when tax time comes around. Also, when you mention "throwback" rules affecting apportionment - can you give an example of how that might work in practice? I want to make sure I understand all the potential complications before I start setting up our compliance framework.

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Madison King

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I'm in a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! Got my 570 code on March 6th and just saw the 971 appear this morning. This is also my first time claiming CTC for my two kids, so it sounds like we're all going through the same verification process. What's really reassuring is seeing the consistent timeline patterns everyone is sharing - the Thursday update cycle seems pretty reliable based on @Mei Liu's tracking. I've been checking my transcript obsessively every day, but now I know to focus on Thursday mornings! The military PCS situation adds extra stress to an already anxiety-inducing process. I'm not military myself, but I can imagine how challenging it must be to coordinate a move while waiting for your refund. The Form 8822 and Taxpayer Advocate Service suggestions from others here are really valuable. One thing that strikes me from reading all these experiences is how much clearer the IRS could make this process. Having mysterious codes appear with no explanation really amplifies the stress. At least we have this community to help decode what's actually happening! Fingers crossed we all see those 846 codes soon. Based on everyone's timelines, it sounds like we're right on track for resolution in the next week or two! šŸ¤ž

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This whole thread has been such a relief to find! I'm completely new to dealing with tax issues and was honestly panicking when I saw those codes appear on my transcript. It's amazing how much collective knowledge this community has - I had no idea the CTC verification was so common or that there were actual patterns to when the IRS updates. @Madison King, you're so right about the IRS communication being unclear. As a newcomer to all this, having to decode mysterious numbers is really stressful! Thank you to everyone sharing their experiences and timelines. It makes this whole waiting process so much more manageable knowing we're not alone in this.

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Emma Wilson

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This is such a valuable thread for anyone going through the 570/971 sequence! As a newcomer to this community and tax issues in general, I was really stressed when these codes first appeared on my transcript with no explanation. Reading everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring - it sounds like the CTC verification process is pretty standard and the timelines are fairly predictable. The Thursday update pattern that @Mei Liu has been tracking is especially helpful to know about! For those dealing with moves and address changes during this process, the Form 8822 advice is really important. I learned the hard way with a previous issue that the IRS doesn't always honor mail forwarding, so updating your address directly with them is crucial. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone noticed if the specific reason code (like CTC vs education credits vs other issues) affects the timeline at all? Or do they all seem to follow similar processing patterns once you hit the 570/971 sequence? Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences. This community knowledge is so much more helpful than trying to decode IRS publications! šŸ™

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