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Mei Chen

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For anyone still waiting, here's what I've learned from 5 years of tracking this process: 1. SBTPG funding to bank deposit typically takes 1-5 business days 2. Online banks like Chime and Cash App often receive deposits 1-2 days faster than traditional banks 3. The trace number appearing is the most reliable indicator that your deposit is imminent (usually within 24 hours) 4. SBTPG status updates don't always happen in real-time - sometimes they update after your deposit has already arrived 5. Regional processing does seem to exist - Southeast tends to process slightly faster than Northeast or West Coast 6. If your status hasn't changed in 7+ days, that's when you should consider calling Hope this helps someone avoid the stress I went through learning all this!

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Kevin Bell

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Thank you so much for sharing this detailed timeline! This is exactly the kind of information that helps reduce the anxiety of waiting. I'm particularly interested in your observation about the trace number timing - I've been checking my account obsessively and didn't realize that was such a reliable indicator. Quick question: when you say you received the trace number around 8pm, where exactly did you see it? Was it in your bank account, the SBTPG portal, or somewhere else? I have a DDD of 3/14 and SBTPG has shown funded since Monday, so I'm hoping to spot that trace number soon. Also using Chime, so fingers crossed I follow a similar timeline to yours! Your point about regional differences is fascinating - I'm in Texas and wondering if that puts me in a similar processing group as Mississippi. Thanks again for taking the time to document all of this!

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Jenna Sloan

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Hey Kevin! I'm new here but have been lurking and reading everyone's experiences. From what I've gathered from other posts, the trace number usually shows up in your banking app's transaction details or pending deposits section, not in the SBTPG portal itself. Some people mentioned it appears as a reference number or ACH ID in their bank's mobile app. Since you're in Texas and have been funded since Monday with a 3/14 DDD, you might actually see your deposit before your official date - seems like Chime users are getting theirs 1-2 days early pretty consistently based on what I'm reading here. Hope that helps and good luck!

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Lydia Bailey

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Welcome to the community! I've been through this process a few times now and can confirm that Jenna is spot-on about the trace number location. In my Chime app, it showed up under "Transaction Details" for the pending deposit - you'll see it listed as either "ACH Trace #" or "Reference ID" depending on how your bank displays it. Your timeline sounds very promising! Texas typically processes in the same regional group as Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama from what I've observed, so you should definitely follow a similar pattern to the original poster. With SBTPG showing funded since Monday and a 3/14 DDD, I'd expect you to see that trace number pop up sometime tonight or tomorrow evening, with the actual deposit hitting your Chime account Wednesday or Thursday morning. Pro tip: if you enable push notifications for deposits in your Chime app, you'll get alerted the moment it hits - usually happens between 2-5 AM for most people. Good luck!

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yall are overthinking this lol. i just claim exempt on my w4 and have zero withheld all year, then pay it all in april. been doing it for 7 years. never had a penalty.

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Ravi Sharma

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This is absolutely terrible advice that will get people in trouble. The IRS definitely DOES assess underpayment penalties if you don't make payments throughout the year. You're either making this up, have a very unusual tax situation, or have just been extremely lucky that you haven't been audited yet.

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I have to agree with Ravi here - claiming exempt when you don't qualify is actually illegal and can result in serious penalties. To legally claim exempt, you must have had no tax liability last year AND expect to have no tax liability this year. The underpayment penalty is real and kicks in when you owe $1,000 or more at tax time without meeting the safe harbor requirements. You might have gotten away with it so far due to refunds from other credits, changes in tax laws, or just luck, but it's definitely not a strategy I'd recommend to others. The approaches mentioned earlier about calculating proper withholding amounts or using tools to stay penalty-free while investing the difference are much safer ways to achieve the same goal of keeping more money in your pocket throughout the year.

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Great question! I went through this exact same thought process a couple years ago. You're absolutely right that you can legally adjust your withholding - I reduced mine significantly and have been investing the difference in index funds. The key is understanding the safe harbor rules everyone mentioned. I use the "100% of last year's tax" method since it's the most predictable. Just take your total tax from line 24 of last year's 1040, divide by your number of paychecks, and make sure at least that much is being withheld each pay period. One thing I learned the hard way - set up a separate savings account for your tax money and automate transfers into it every payday. It's way too tempting to spend that extra cash if it just sits in your checking account. I treat it like another bill that has to be paid. The psychological benefit is huge too. Instead of feeling like the government is taking my money all year, I feel like I'm choosing when and how much to pay. Plus last year I earned about $1,200 in returns on money that would've just been an interest-free loan to the IRS!

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Emma Morales

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! The separate savings account idea is brilliant - I can definitely see how tempting it would be to just spend that extra money if it's sitting in my regular account. Quick question though - when you calculate that "100% of last year's tax" amount, are you looking at the total tax before any withholding/credits, or the amount you actually owed after everything was applied? I want to make sure I'm using the right number for my calculations. Also, what type of index funds have you been using for the short-term investment? I'm wondering if there's a sweet spot between growth potential and liquidity since I'll need access to the money by April.

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Hey Chloe! Completely understand the panic - I remember getting my first 1042-S and thinking I'd accidentally triggered some international tax incident over pocket change! You're absolutely right not to stress about this. The form is basically just a receipt showing that Robinhood did what they're legally required to do - withhold US tax from your dividends before paying you. Think of it like automatic tax deduction from a paycheck, except it's from your dividend payments. For £13 in dividends with £4 withheld, you definitely don't need to file anything with the IRS. The withholding satisfied your US tax obligation, and the amount is way too small to worry about trying to recover through filing a US tax return. On the UK side, since you mentioned you've never earned enough to pay UK tax, you're almost certainly under the personal allowance threshold, so you wouldn't need to report this to HMRC either. Just keep the form filed away safely in case you need it in future years when your investments grow. One tip for going forward: double-check that you have a proper W-8BEN form on file with Robinhood. This should reduce your withholding rate from 30% to 15% under the US-UK tax treaty, which will save you money as your portfolio grows. The difference isn't much now, but it adds up over time! Don't worry - you haven't broken any laws and you're definitely not ending up on any blacklist over this. Welcome to the world of international investing!

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Thanks Zoe! Your explanation really puts things in perspective. The paycheck analogy is perfect - I never thought of it that way but it makes total sense. Robinhood is basically just doing their job by automatically taking out what they're supposed to. I'm definitely going to check on that W-8BEN form situation. Even though the difference between 30% and 15% doesn't seem like much on £13, you're absolutely right that it could add up significantly over time as I hopefully build up my investments. Better to get it sorted now rather than realize years later I've been paying extra tax unnecessarily! It's such a relief to know I haven't accidentally stumbled into some international tax nightmare. When you're completely new to investing and suddenly get official forms from the US government, it's easy to panic and assume you've done something terribly wrong. Really appreciate everyone in this thread sharing their experiences - makes the whole thing feel much less scary and more like a normal part of investing abroad.

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Don't worry Chloe, you're definitely not alone in this confusion! I had the exact same panic when I got my first 1042-S form as a UK investor. The key thing to understand is that this form is actually proof that everything was handled correctly - Robinhood automatically withheld the required US tax from your dividends before paying you the rest. For your small amount (£13 dividends, £4 withheld), you absolutely don't need to file anything with the IRS or worry about breaking any laws. Since you mentioned you've never earned enough to pay UK tax, you're likely well under the personal allowance threshold, so you probably don't need to report this tiny amount to HMRC either. Just keep the form safe for your records. Going forward, I'd recommend checking that you have a proper W-8BEN form completed with Robinhood. This should reduce your withholding rate from 30% to 15% thanks to the UK-US tax treaty. Won't make much difference now, but as your investments grow over the years, that 15% savings really adds up! Trust me, the IRS has much bigger concerns than chasing UK students over £4 in tax. You're doing everything right - welcome to international investing!

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Yara Khoury

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Giovanni, this is such helpful advice! I'm actually in a very similar position to Chloe - just started investing in US stocks as a UK resident and was completely bewildered when I got my first 1042-S form. Your explanation about it being proof that everything was handled correctly really clicked for me. I had no idea about the W-8BEN form potentially reducing withholding from 30% to 15%. That's actually a really significant difference! Even though my current dividend amounts are small like Chloe's, I can see how that would compound over time as I build up my portfolio. Definitely going to check with my broker to make sure that's set up properly. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who's been through the exact same confusion. When you're new to all this and suddenly get official-looking forms from foreign tax authorities, it's easy to panic and assume you've committed some kind of international tax crime! Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Luca Ricci

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Don't forget about tax treaties! Many countries have tax treaties with the US that can reduce or eliminate withholding for J1 research scholars. For example, if you're from the UK, Germany, China, or India (among many others), you might qualify for reduced withholding. You'll need to fill out Form 8233 in addition to your W4 to claim treaty benefits. Your university should have this form available through the international office or payroll department.

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This is such important advice! I lost thousands in overwithholding my first year because I didn't know about Form 8233. Even though I got it back when filing taxes, it was money I could have used during the year. Also, be aware that some states don't recognize federal tax treaties, so you might still have state tax withholding even if you're exempt from federal withholding.

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As someone who went through this exact situation last year, I want to emphasize something that might not be obvious: even though you'll likely become a resident alien later in 2024, you should absolutely check the nonresident alien box on your W4 right now. Here's why this matters: your current withholding needs to match your current status. If you don't check the box, your employer will withhold taxes as if you're a US resident from day one, which could result in significant overwithholding that you'll have to wait until tax season to recover. When your status does change (likely after your second calendar year as a J1, not just based on days present), you can submit a new W4 to adjust your withholding going forward. Most universities are very familiar with this process since they deal with international scholars regularly. One more tip: keep detailed records of all your entry/exit dates and visa statuses. You'll need this information for your tax return, and it helps if any questions come up about when exactly your residency status changed.

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! I've been so worried about making the wrong choice, but it makes perfect sense to match my withholding to my current status rather than trying to anticipate what might happen later in the year. I'm definitely going to start keeping better records of my entry/exit dates. I have most of them from my I-94 travel history, but I should probably organize everything in a spreadsheet since it sounds like I'll need this information repeatedly for tax purposes. One quick follow-up question - when you say "after your second calendar year as a J1," does that mean if I started in April 2024, I'd remain a nonresident alien through all of 2025 and only potentially become a resident alien starting in 2026? Or does it depend on when exactly in the second year the change happens?

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Ava Thompson

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This is definitely encouraging news! The status change from "Still Processing" to "Received and Being Processed" after identity verification is a strong positive indicator - it means the IRS has successfully confirmed your identity and released your return from the verification hold back into normal processing channels. Your 18-minute online verification time is actually really good - it suggests your documentation was clean and straightforward, which should help prevent any additional delays going forward. Based on what I've observed in this community, most people see their refunds within 2-3 weeks of this specific status change. For your mother's care planning, I'd definitely recommend checking your IRS online account transcript if you haven't already. You'll want to look for transaction codes 971/570 (the verification hold codes) to clear, and eventually see code 846 appear with your actual deposit date. If you have direct deposit set up, refunds typically post on Wednesdays once processing completes. The fact that you're seeing this positive movement just 7 days after verification is actually quite good timing compared to what many others experience. You've successfully navigated the biggest hurdle - the identity verification process - and now you're back in the standard processing queue rather than sitting in limbo. I'd plan conservatively for early-to-mid April for your refund, but many people see results faster than that. You're definitely moving in the right direction, and this status change is exactly what you want to see at this stage of the process!

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QuantumQueen

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive explanation! As someone who's never had to deal with IRS verification before, I was getting really anxious about what this status change actually meant. Your breakdown of the verification hold being lifted versus just sitting in limbo is incredibly helpful - I had no idea there was such a meaningful difference between these status messages. The 2-3 week timeline after the status change gives me concrete expectations to work with for my mom's care planning, which is exactly what I needed. I just checked my transcript for the first time based on all the advice in this thread, and seeing those actual processing codes makes this whole process feel much more transparent and manageable. It's such a relief to finally understand what's happening behind the scenes rather than just staring at vague messages and wondering if anything is actually moving forward!

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This is absolutely a positive development! The status change from "Still Processing" to "Received and Being Processed" after identity verification means the IRS has successfully cleared your verification and your return is now actively moving through their processing system again. As someone who's been through this exact scenario, I can tell you that your 18-minute online verification time is actually excellent - it indicates your documentation was clean with no red flags that could cause additional delays. Most people in your situation see their refunds within 2-3 weeks of this status change. Given the urgency with your mother's care expenses, I'd strongly recommend checking your IRS online account transcript if you haven't already. Look for transaction codes 971/570 (verification hold codes) to disappear, and eventually code 846 to appear with your deposit date. This will give you much more specific information than the Where's My Refund tool. The fact that you're seeing this positive change just 7 days after verification is actually quite good timing. You've cleared the biggest hurdle - identity verification - and now you're back in normal processing rather than sitting in limbo. If you have direct deposit set up, refunds typically post on Wednesdays once processing completes. Plan conservatively for early-to-mid April, but many people see faster results. You're definitely moving in the right direction, and this status change is exactly what you want to see at this stage!

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Yara Campbell

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This is such incredibly helpful and reassuring information! As a complete newcomer to dealing with IRS processes, I've been feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the different status messages and codes - it's like trying to decode a foreign language sometimes. Your explanation about the verification hold being cleared and getting back into "normal processing" really puts things into perspective. I had no idea that seeing this status change in just 7 days after verification was actually good timing - I was worried it was taking too long! The timeline of 2-3 weeks from this status change gives me something concrete to plan around for my mom's care needs. I just started checking my transcript after reading all these comments and finally feel like I have some real visibility into what's happening rather than just refreshing that Where's My Refund page hoping for changes. Thank you for sharing your experience and breaking this down so clearly for those of us navigating this for the first time!

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