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Diego Fisher

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Those codes are pretty standard when the IRS needs to review something! Code 150 means they received and processed your return, 570 is just a temporary hold (usually for verification), and 971 means they're mailing you a notice explaining what they need. I had the exact same sequence last year and it took about 4 weeks total to clear up. The notice I got was just asking me to verify my identity online through ID.me, which was actually pretty quick once I got around to doing it. Try not to stress too much - these holds are super common this year and most resolve without any major issues. Just keep an eye on your transcript updates (they refresh on Fridays) and watch for that notice in the mail! πŸ“¬

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Lily Young

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This is really reassuring to hear! I'm dealing with the same codes right now and was getting pretty anxious about it. How long did the ID.me verification process take once you started it? I've heard mixed things about how smooth that whole process is.

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I went through this exact situation last year! Those codes are actually pretty routine - 150 means your return was processed, 570 is a temporary refund hold, and 971 indicates they're sending you a notice explaining why. In my case, I got a CP05 notice about 10 days after the 971 date asking for identity verification. Once I completed the ID.me process (took about 20 minutes), my refund was released within 2 weeks. The whole thing from start to finish was about 5 weeks. I know the waiting is stressful when you really need the money, but try to stay patient. Check your transcript every Friday for updates and keep an eye out for that notice in the mail. Most of these holds resolve pretty smoothly once you provide whatever verification they need. Hang in there! πŸ’ͺ

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This is super helpful, thank you! 5 weeks total doesn't sound too bad honestly. I'm at about 2 weeks since my 971 code appeared so hopefully I'll get that notice soon. Did you have any issues with the ID.me verification or was it pretty straightforward? I've been putting off setting up an account but sounds like I should probably get that ready to go.

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KhalilStar

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As a newcomer to both this community and rideshare driving, I want to express my gratitude for this incredibly detailed and helpful discussion! I just started driving for Lyft about 6 weeks ago and was facing the exact same confusion about vehicle deductions that the original poster described. My tax software was also showing that actual expenses would give me a much larger deduction (nearly double what standard mileage showed), and I was seriously considering that route until I read through all these responses. The explanations about depreciation recapture have been absolutely eye-opening - I had no idea that claiming depreciation could create tax complications years down the road, especially just from converting the vehicle back to personal use. What really resonates with me is how many experienced drivers and tax professionals all seem to agree that for part-time or temporary gig drivers, standard mileage is usually the smarter choice despite appearing "smaller" upfront. The real-world stories about unexpected recapture costs really drive home why the immediate tax benefit isn't the whole picture. As someone who's only driven about 3,000 miles so far and isn't sure if I'll continue long-term, I'm definitely going with standard mileage. The peace of mind and flexibility seem worth much more than the potentially larger but risky deduction. Plus, the simplified record-keeping is appealing since I'm already juggling learning all the other aspects of gig driving. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise - this community provides exactly the kind of practical guidance that newcomers need to avoid costly mistakes!

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Dylan Cooper

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Welcome to the community, KhalilStar! As another newcomer who was initially attracted to that bigger actual expenses number, I completely understand your confusion. This thread has been such a valuable education for those of us just starting out with gig driving. What really struck me from reading everyone's experiences is how the tax software makes actual expenses look so appealing upfront but doesn't warn you about potential long-term consequences like depreciation recapture. The fact that you could face tax complications just from stopping business use of your vehicle is something I never would have considered without this discussion. Your situation with 3,000 miles over 6 weeks sounds very similar to many others here who found standard mileage to be the smarter choice for part-time drivers. That clean deduction without future headaches really does seem worth more than chasing a potentially larger but risky number. I'm also planning to go with standard mileage for my situation - better to learn from others' experiences than make costly mistakes myself. The simplified record-keeping is definitely appealing when you're already trying to learn all the other aspects of gig driving. This community has been incredibly helpful for understanding these complex tax decisions that newcomers face!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly thorough and educational discussion! I just started driving for Uber about a month ago and was facing the exact same dilemma about vehicle deductions. Like many others here, my tax software was showing actual expenses as significantly "better" than standard mileage, but after reading through all these detailed responses, I'm convinced that standard mileage is the right choice for my situation. The explanations about depreciation recapture have been absolutely eye-opening - I had no idea that claiming depreciation could create tax complications years down the road, especially when you stop using the vehicle for business or sell it. The real-world examples from experienced drivers who got hit with unexpected recapture costs really put the long-term risks into perspective. What I find most valuable about this community is how experienced members share practical insights that go way beyond what tax software shows you. The point about being "locked in" to actual expenses forever for a specific vehicle is crucial information that newcomers like me need to understand before making this decision. For part-time drivers who aren't sure about continuing long-term (like myself with only 2,500 miles driven so far), standard mileage seems to offer the perfect balance of fair deduction and peace of mind. I'd rather take the clean, straightforward deduction than deal with complex record-keeping and potential future tax headaches. This discussion has probably saved me from making an expensive mistake - exactly the kind of community support that new drivers need when navigating these complex tax decisions!

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How Does Moving Between States Impact RSU Taxation? Understanding Multi-State Tax Implications for Equity Compensation

I just received this memo from my company's HR department that has me completely freaked out about my potential move plans: Starting January 2025, employees working in the United States who relocate between states can expect to be taxed in ALL states where they worked from the time their equity award was granted through each vesting date. To comply with state tax regulations, your stock compensation will be taxed based on: Your work locations recorded in the HR system at the time your grant was issued (new hire grants, promotional grants, etc.) through when your vested compensation is taxed. This doesn't apply to ESPP purchases. For example, if you received a grant while working in Washington and later moved to Texas, your future stock compensation taxes will reflect both Washington and Texas tax requirements, potentially increasing your total tax burden. Your stock compensation will be reported to each applicable state and reflected on your W2. The company recommends consulting with a tax advisor when filing your annual returns. While you'll be taxed in multiple states, you won't necessarily pay the full amount in each state. Your actual tax liability depends on each state's rules - some require tax on the full amount, others prorate based on time spent in the state, and some offer reciprocity where one tax amount is reduced based on taxes paid elsewhere. You'll likely need to file returns in all states where you've worked. I'm currently in Colorado and considering relocating to California for about 18 months. I have a 4-year RSU grant from November 2024 that starts vesting in November 2025. If I understand this correctly, even this temporary move could haunt my taxes for years? If I move to California, will my entire four-year grant be subject to California taxes even though I'll only be there temporarily? When I return to Colorado, will I be paying double taxes on everything? Has anyone dealt with this interstate RSU taxation issue? I'm completely blindsided and can't find much information online. My friends at other tech companies haven't mentioned anything similar. Is this unique to my company or a new tax regulation I'm unaware of?

Donna Cline

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Has anyone used services like Taxr.ai or Claimyr in conjunction with TurboTax or H&R Block? I'm trying to decide if I need to bite the bullet and pay for a CPA this year because of my RSU situation. I moved from Washington to Texas midway through my vesting schedule and I'm worried about messing up the allocation.

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I wouldn't try to handle multi-state RSU taxation with TurboTax. I tried last year after moving from New York to Florida and it was a disaster. The software doesn't handle the nuances of RSU sourcing rules well at all. I ended up having to file an amended return after my employer sent a corrected W-2 with different state allocations. I'd recommend using taxr.ai to get the proper allocation documentation and then taking that to a CPA who specializes in equity compensation. The peace of mind is worth the extra cost, especially when you consider the potential penalties if you get it wrong.

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Donna Cline

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Thanks for the advice. That's pretty much what I was afraid of - that TurboTax wouldn't be sophisticated enough for this situation. I'll look into finding a specialized CPA. Did you end up owing a lot more after the amended return, or was it just allocated differently?

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Sara Unger

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I went through a very similar situation when I moved from Oregon to California temporarily for work. The key thing to understand is that your company's memo is actually being conservative and accurate - this is standard practice, not something unique to your employer. Here's what I learned from my experience: California will indeed claim taxation rights on RSUs based on your work location during the vesting period, but it's proportional. Since you're only planning to be there for 18 months out of your 4-year vesting schedule, roughly 37.5% of your total RSU value would be subject to California taxation. The good news is that you won't be double-taxed on the same income. Both Colorado and California have provisions to prevent true double taxation through tax credits. You'll likely end up paying whichever state has the higher tax rate on that income, but not both rates combined. My advice: definitely consult with a tax professional before making the move. They can help you understand the exact implications and potentially time your move strategically. Also, keep meticulous records of your work locations and dates - this documentation will be crucial for proper tax allocation and could save you thousands if there are any disputes later.

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Maya Lewis

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This is really helpful context! I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned. Since my first vesting event is in November 2025 and I'm considering moving to California early in 2025, would it make sense to delay the move until after that first vest? Or does California's sourcing method mean they'd still claim a portion even if I move after the first vesting date? I'm trying to figure out if there's a meaningful difference between moving in February 2025 vs December 2025 from a tax perspective.

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GalacticGuru

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One thing to keep in mind is that you'll need to report this on Form 8949 and Schedule D when you file your taxes. Since it's a collectible, make sure to check the appropriate box indicating it's subject to the 28% rate rather than regular capital gains rates. Also, regarding your basis documentation - if you truly can't find any records from when you received it, you could reach out to your uncle to see if he has any documentation of when he purchased it or what he paid. Sometimes the gifter keeps better records than the recipient. If that doesn't work, using historical gold prices from reputable sources like COMEX or major precious metals dealers for the approximate date you received it would be a reasonable approach for establishing your basis. Just remember that the IRS can ask for documentation during an audit, so whatever method you use to establish your basis, make sure you can explain and justify it with reasonable evidence.

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KylieRose

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This is really helpful advice about Form 8949 and reaching out to the uncle for documentation! I'm wondering though - if the uncle doesn't have records either, how specific do you need to be with the date when using historical gold prices? Like, do you need to pinpoint the exact month, or is it okay to use a general timeframe like "summer 2016" and pick an average price from that period? I'm worried about being too precise when I'm not 100% certain of the exact date.

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You don't need to be exact to the day, but you should try to narrow it down as much as reasonably possible. If you remember it was "summer 2016," that's actually pretty good - you could use an average of gold prices from June-August 2016, or pick a price from the middle of that timeframe (like July 15th). The IRS understands that people don't always remember exact dates for gifts, especially from years ago. What matters most is that you're making a good faith effort to determine the fair market value when you received it. Document your methodology - like "received approximately July 2016, used gold price of $X per ounce based on [source]" - and keep that documentation with your tax records. As long as you're reasonable and can explain your approach, you should be fine. The key is avoiding both extremes: don't just guess wildly, but also don't stress about pinpointing the exact day when you genuinely don't remember.

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I appreciate all the detailed responses here! One additional consideration that might be relevant - if you're in a low income bracket this year but expect to earn more in future years, it could make sense to realize the gain now at the 28% collectible rate rather than waiting. Even though 28% sounds high, if your regular income increases significantly in the future, you might end up in higher tax brackets where the 28% collectible rate could actually be better than your regular tax rates on other investments. Also, don't forget that if you do sell, you might be able to offset some of the gain with any capital losses you have from other investments. The collectible gain can be offset by both short-term and long-term capital losses from your other assets, which could help reduce the overall tax impact. Just something to think about when timing the sale!

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Nalani Liu

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That's a really smart point about timing the sale based on future income expectations! I hadn't considered that the 28% collectible rate might actually be advantageous compared to higher regular tax brackets later on. The capital loss offset strategy is also valuable - I have some underperforming stocks in my portfolio that I've been hesitant to sell, but using those losses to offset collectible gains could make sense. Do you know if there are any limits on how much capital loss can be used to offset collectible gains in a single year, or does it follow the same rules as regular capital gains offsetting? Also, for someone like the original poster who's currently in the 0% bracket, would it make sense to consider selling the gold coin in portions over multiple years to potentially stay within lower income thresholds, or does the 28% collectible rate apply regardless of total income level?

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I went through something very similar last year and it turned out to be a combination of factors that individually seemed small but added up to a big difference. Here's what I'd suggest checking systematically: 1. Compare your actual withholding amounts (Box 2 on your W-2) as a percentage of your total income between the two years. Even if the dollar amount is higher, if the percentage is lower, that's your answer right there. 2. Look at any credits you claimed last year vs this year. The Earned Income Credit, education credits, and even some lesser-known credits have income thresholds that can change year to year. 3. Check if you had any estimated tax payments, prior year overpayments applied, or stimulus recovery rebate credits last year that inflated that refund. 4. That extra $800 in overtime might have pushed you over a threshold for certain deductions or credits to start phasing out. The good news is that a smaller refund often means you're getting more accurate withholding throughout the year, so you're actually keeping more of your own money instead of giving the IRS an interest-free loan. I know it's frustrating when you're counting on that refund money, but your overall tax situation might actually be better than you think!

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Ryan Young

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This is such a comprehensive breakdown! I'm definitely going to go through each of these points systematically. The percentage comparison idea is particularly smart - I was just looking at dollar amounts but you're absolutely right that the percentage matters more. I'm also realizing I might have been thinking about this all wrong - focusing on getting a big refund instead of keeping more money throughout the year. It's just hard to adjust mentally when you're used to that lump sum for big expenses like home repairs. Maybe I should look into adjusting my W-4 to find a better balance, or like someone else suggested, set up automatic savings to replicate that "forced savings" effect of overwithholding. Thanks for the reality check about the overall tax situation potentially being better - that actually makes me feel a lot less frustrated about this whole thing!

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Lucy Lam

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One more thing to check that I haven't seen mentioned - did you receive any advance Child Tax Credit payments or Economic Impact Payments in either year that might have affected your refund? Even if you don't have kids, sometimes there are recovery rebate credits or other stimulus-related adjustments that can make refunds fluctuate significantly between years. Also, if you're using tax software, try running your current year's numbers through a different program or the IRS Free File options to see if you get the same result. Sometimes there are software glitches or missed deductions/credits that only become apparent when you use a different platform. The fact that your withholding dollar amount went up but your refund went down strongly suggests that your effective withholding rate decreased - which as others have mentioned, is actually a good thing financially. You might want to use the IRS withholding calculator on their website to see if you want to adjust your W-4 for next year to either get closer to breaking even or to create that "forced savings" effect you were relying on.

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