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14 Also worth mentioning - gambling winnings are subject to different withholding requirements. If you win over certain thresholds (like $5,000 in a lottery), taxes should be withheld immediately. But for most online betting apps, they don't withhold taxes automatically, which is probably why you're in this situation.
21 I got a W-2G from a casino when I hit a $1,200 jackpot on a slot machine, but nothing from any of my sports betting apps even though I had some big wins. Is that normal or should I be getting tax forms from them too?
Sports betting apps typically only issue W-2G forms for winnings that meet specific thresholds - usually when you win over $5,000 AND the winnings are at least 300 times your wager. So if you bet $10 and won $3,000, you wouldn't get a W-2G even though it's a nice win. But you're still required to report ALL gambling winnings on your tax return, regardless of whether you receive a form or not. The apps should have year-end statements available in your account that show your total activity for tax purposes.
Don't forget about state taxes too! Each state handles gambling income differently. Some states don't tax gambling winnings at all, while others treat them as regular income. A few states even have different rules for online vs. in-person gambling. You'll want to check your state's specific requirements because you might owe state taxes on that $30k in winnings even if your federal situation gets sorted out with itemizing. Some states also don't allow gambling loss deductions even if you can take them federally, which could really impact your overall tax bill. If you're in a state that recently legalized sports betting, the tax rules might still be evolving too. Definitely worth researching or asking a tax pro about your specific state's treatment of online gambling income.
23 Has anyone tried just putting like $1 of income instead of $0? My accountant friend suggested this makes it less likely to trigger a flag in the system while still giving you essentially the same loss deduction.
17 I wouldn't recommend that. Reporting income you didn't actually receive is technically false reporting. Better to be honest with $0 income and have proper documentation for your legitimate business expenses. TurboTax handles this situation correctly if you just follow the software prompts.
I just went through this exact situation last year with my Etsy shop! Started in late 2023 with about $3,800 in startup costs but no sales until 2024. The key thing I learned is that you absolutely CAN claim these expenses even with zero income. In TurboTax, go to the Business section and select "I'll enter my business info myself" when it asks about 1099s. Then just enter $0 for income but add all your legitimate business expenses - tools, materials, website costs, home office, etc. One important tip: make sure you can justify that this is a real business and not a hobby. Keep records of your business activities, any marketing you did, your business plan (even informal), and evidence you intended to make a profit. The IRS gets suspicious of businesses that show losses year after year with no income. Your Schedule C loss will flow through to your main tax return and reduce your W-2 income, which could give you a nice refund! Just be prepared to explain your business activities if questioned.
Just a heads up on the marketplace HDHP option - make sure you check the deductible amounts carefully! Not all "high deductible" plans on healthcare.gov actually qualify as HDHPs for HSA purposes. For 2024, a qualifying HDHP needs to have a minimum deductible of $1,650 for self-only coverage and a maximum out-of-pocket limit of $8,050. I nearly messed this up when I was shopping for plans.
Also, don't forget that losing your employer coverage qualifies as a Special Enrollment Period (SEP) on the marketplace, so you'll have 60 days after your coverage ends to enroll. But like others mentioned, you'll want new coverage to start by Nov 1st to maintain eligibility.
Great question about the HSA last-month rule and job transitions! I went through something similar a few years ago and learned a lot about maintaining eligibility during the testing period. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given is to consider the network differences between your current plan and potential new coverage. If you have any ongoing medical needs or preferred providers, COBRA might be worth the extra cost to maintain your existing network relationships through the end of the year. Also, when comparing marketplace HDHPs, pay close attention to the HSA contribution limits if the plan comes with an HSA from a different provider. Some HSA administrators have higher fees or limited investment options compared to others. Since you're only looking at a few months of coverage, the fees might not matter much, but it's worth checking. The timing advice others have shared is spot-on - you have until October 31st to remain HSA-eligible after your coverage ends on the 10th, and you'll want new HDHP coverage starting November 1st. This gives you a comfortable window to shop and compare options without rushing into a decision.
This is really helpful context about the network considerations! I hadn't thought about that aspect. Since I'm generally healthy and don't have any ongoing treatments, I'm leaning toward the marketplace option to save money. But you make a good point about HSA provider fees - I should definitely compare those when looking at different plans. My current HSA has pretty low fees and decent investment options, so I'd hate to end up with a plan that forces me into a more expensive HSA administrator for just a few months of coverage.
As someone who just went through my first year of S Corp 1099 filings, I can confirm your accountant is right but there are some nuances that might help reduce your stress. The good news is you don't need 1099s for EVERYONE on that list. If your hairstylist works at a salon that's incorporated, or if you paid any of these vendors via credit card or business payment platforms like Square, those don't require 1099s from you. Here's what saved me time: I created a simple spreadsheet tracking each vendor, how I paid them (cash/check vs credit card), their business structure (got this from W-9s), and total annual payments. This helped me quickly identify who actually needed 1099s versus who didn't. Your friend who's never done this might be flying under the radar, but the penalties for missing 1099s can be substantial ($50-$280 per form depending on how late). Better to be compliant from the start. One tip: for vendors you'll work with regularly, get their W-9 forms upfront when you first hire them. Makes tax season way less stressful than scrambling to collect everything in January.
This is super helpful! The spreadsheet idea is genius - I've been trying to keep track of everything in my head and it's been a mess. Quick question though - when you say "business payment platforms like Square," does that include things like Zelle or Venmo for Business? I've been using those for some of my contractors and wasn't sure if they count as third-party payment processors that would handle the 1099 reporting. Also, did you run into any issues getting W-9s from people after you'd already been working with them? Some of my regular vendors seem hesitant to fill out tax forms, and I'm worried about damaging those working relationships by suddenly asking for paperwork.
I went through this exact same confusion when I started my S Corp two years ago! Your accountant is absolutely correct - S Corps do need to issue 1099-NECs to qualifying service providers, but the key word is "qualifying." Here's what helped me sort through the maze: Start by understanding that you DON'T need to issue 1099s to corporations, LLCs taxed as corporations, or for payments made via credit card/third-party processors. This eliminates a lot of vendors right off the bat. For your entertainment industry expenses like hair/makeup, these can absolutely be legitimate business deductions if they're specifically for performances, auditions, or professional appearances. Just make sure you can document the business purpose - I keep notes linking each service to specific gigs or professional events. The W-9 collection process gets easier once you establish it as standard practice. I now require W-9s before making any payments over $100 to new vendors. Most professionals understand this is normal business procedure, though some personal service providers might need a gentle explanation about why you need their tax info. Don't feel bad about not knowing this initially - the entertainment industry is notorious for informal payment practices, but as an S Corp you need to follow corporate tax rules. It's a learning curve but you'll get the hang of it!
This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through it! I'm definitely feeling less overwhelmed knowing that not every vendor on my accountant's list will actually need a 1099. The part about documenting the business purpose for entertainment expenses is super valuable - I hadn't thought about keeping notes linking services to specific gigs, but that makes total sense for audit protection. Quick follow-up question: when you say you require W-9s before payments over $100, is that just to be safe, or is there a specific reason for that threshold? I know the 1099 requirement kicks in at $600 annually, but I'm wondering if starting the W-9 collection earlier helps with organization or if there are other tax implications I should know about. Also, did you find any good resources or templates for explaining to personal service providers why you need their tax info? Some of my regular beauty team seem a bit wary when I mention tax forms, and I want to approach it professionally without making them uncomfortable.
Ethan Moore
I've been following this discussion and want to add one more perspective that might help. I'm a CPA who specializes in individual tax issues, and I see situations like yours regularly. The advice everyone has given about amending within the 3-year window is absolutely correct. What I'd emphasize is that your situation is actually pretty straightforward - missing 1099 income is one of the most common amendments we process. A few technical points that might help: - The $3,500 unreported income will trigger about $536 in self-employment tax (15.3%) regardless of your income bracket - Your regular income tax on that amount depends on your marginal rate, but likely another $350-525 - Penalties for voluntary disclosure are typically much lower - often just the failure-to-pay penalty at 0.5% per month One thing I always tell clients: the IRS computer systems are getting better at catching these discrepancies, so it's really in your best interest to address this proactively. When they find it through their matching program (which they often do within 2-3 years), the letters can be more intimidating and the penalty calculation less favorable. File that 1040-X with confidence - you're doing exactly what responsible taxpayers should do when they discover an error.
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QuantumQuester
ā¢This professional breakdown is incredibly helpful! As someone who's been paralyzed by anxiety about this exact situation, having a CPA lay out the actual numbers makes it feel so much more manageable. The $536 + $350-525 calculation gives me a concrete range to work with instead of just imagining worst-case scenarios. Your point about the IRS computer systems getting better at catching discrepancies is exactly what I needed to hear to stop procrastinating. I'd much rather deal with this on my own terms now than wait for a potentially scary letter down the road. The fact that you see these situations regularly and describe them as "straightforward" is really reassuring - it helps normalize what feels like a huge mistake in my head. Thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed, professional guidance. It's given me the confidence to move forward with filing my 1040-X instead of continuing to stress about it!
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Malik Davis
I'm going through the exact same anxiety spiral right now with my 2022 taxes! I missed reporting some freelance graphic design income (about $2,900) and have been putting off dealing with it for months. Reading through everyone's experiences here is honestly the first time I've felt like this might actually be manageable instead of catastrophic. The consistent message that voluntary amendments get better treatment really resonates - I keep imagining getting some scary IRS letter out of the blue versus handling this proactively. And hearing that people in similar situations ended up owing $500-800 plus reasonable penalties makes this feel like a problem I can actually solve rather than some insurmountable disaster. I think what's been paralyzing me most is not knowing what the "worst case" actually looks like. Having real numbers and experiences from people who've been through this exact situation is incredibly helpful. Time to stop letting fear make this decision for me and just get the 1040-X filed!
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