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Aisha Mahmood

Who pays unemployment when you get fired in California?

So I got let go from my job last week and I'm sitting here trying to figure out how all of this actually works financially. My manager called it a 'business restructuring' but basically I was fired. I've never filed for unemployment before and honestly I'm confused about the whole money side of things. Like where does the money actually come from when you file with California EDD? Does my old employer pay it directly? Does it come from taxes I paid? I'm also wondering if being fired (versus quitting) changes who's responsible for funding the benefits. I filed my initial claim on UI Online already but I have no idea what to expect or how the system is funded. Anyone who can explain how California unemployment actually works from a funding standpoint would be really helpful right now.

Good question and totally understandable to be confused about this. So here's the simple version: your employer has been paying into a state unemployment insurance fund this whole time you were employed. It's called the FUTA/SUTA system - Federal Unemployment Tax Act and State Unemployment Tax Act. California specifically has the State Disability Insurance and UI fund that employers contribute to based on their payroll. When you file a claim through California EDD, the money comes from that pooled state fund, NOT directly from your employer's pocket in real time. Your old company doesn't cut you a check - the state does. That said, employers DO have what's called an 'experience rating' which means if a lot of their former employees collect UI, their tax rate goes up in future years. So there IS a financial incentive for employers to contest claims they think are invalid.

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Oh so my employer has basically been pre-paying into this fund the whole time? That makes way more sense. So the money is already there waiting essentially?

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This is accurate. The California UI trust fund is what pays benefits. Employers contribute quarterly based on wages paid. The rate varies from about 1.5% to 6.2% depending on their claim history.

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yeah basically your employer funded it over time, thats why they can contest your claim if they think you shouldnt get benefits - they have skin in the game with their future tax rates

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Wait I'm confused about something - does it matter HOW you were fired? Like I got terminated for performance issues last year and EDD still approved my claim. My coworker got fired for stealing and EDD denied him. So the reason you were let go definitely matters even if the money technically comes from the same fund.

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That's really good to know. My situation was legitimate restructuring/layoff type situation so hopefully I should be okay. Did you have to go through adjudication?

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Yeah mine went to adjudication for like 2 weeks but then got approved. Performance issues generally don't equal misconduct in EDD's eyes so I was fine

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this is an important point - there's a difference between being fired for misconduct vs just being let go. misconduct disqualifies you, regular termination or layoff generally doesn't. California EDD looks at whether you did something intentionally wrong basically

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To add some really practical info here - the funding flow works like this: employers pay State Unemployment Insurance (SUI) taxes to California EDD throughout the year. These go into the UI Trust Fund. When you become unemployed and file, EDD calculates your weekly benefit amount based on your highest earning quarter in your base period (roughly the 12-18 months before you filed). The maximum weekly benefit in California right now is $450. Your benefits are paid from that trust fund. Your former employer gets notified of your claim and has the opportunity to respond - this is where they might dispute it if they claim you were fired for misconduct. If there's a dispute, your claim goes into adjudication where an EDD rep reviews both sides. Since you said it was restructuring/layoff, your employer probably won't fight it and you should be approved fairly quickly.

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$450 max per week seems lower than I expected but I guess something is better than nothing. How long does the approval process usually take when there's no dispute?

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Usually 3-5 weeks from filing to first payment if everything is clean. Could be faster. The waiting week (first week of unemployment) is unpaid but you still certify for it.

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The base period thing trips a lot of people up. Make sure to check your UI Online portal to see what quarters EDD is using to calculate your benefit amount. Sometimes it's worth requesting an alternate base period if your recent earnings were higher.

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Went through this exact situation 8 months ago - got fired, wasn't sure about anything. One thing I'll add: when you're filing and they ask the reason for separation, be honest and consistent. Say exactly what happened. The employer will give their version and EDD compares them. If they match up, usually smooth sailing. If there's a discrepancy they'll schedule a phone interview with you to get more details. I had to do one of those phone interviews and EDD was nearly impossible to reach when I had questions beforehand. Someone on a forum like this mentioned Claimyr (claimyr.com) which basically gets you through to a live EDD agent without sitting on hold for 4+ hours. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows how it works. I used it to ask questions before my interview and it saved me a ton of stress.

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The phone interview thing is making me nervous. Did they try to trick you with certain questions or was it pretty straightforward?

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Pretty straightforward honestly. They basically ask you to describe what happened, was there any warning, did you have any write-ups, stuff like that. Just tell the truth and you'll be fine. Don't overthink it.

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seconding the claimyr recommendation - california edd phone lines are absolutely brutal to get through on your own. spent 3 days trying to reach someone last year before finding a workaround like that

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I need to jump in here because some of the dollar amounts being thrown around might be outdated. The maximum WBA (weekly benefit amount) for California UI is currently $450 per week for up to 26 weeks. BUT your actual benefit amount is calculated as roughly 60-70% of your average weekly earnings up to that cap. So if you were making decent money, you'll likely hit the max. If you were making less, it's proportional. Also want to clarify - since you said 'fired' vs laid off - for California EDD purposes both can qualify you for UI. The key distinction is whether the employer claims misconduct. A layoff is straightforward approval usually. Being fired for reasons other than misconduct (performance, position elimination, personality conflicts, etc.) also typically qualifies. Being fired FOR misconduct (theft, harassment, deliberate policy violations) is what disqualifies you.

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This is incredibly helpful. My situation was definitely not misconduct - they eliminated my entire department. So I should be in good shape.

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Department elimination is about as clean a qualifying reason as it gets. Your employer would have no legitimate grounds to dispute. You should sail through.

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agreed, department elimination/restructuring claims almost never get disputed by employers because they literally cant claim misconduct when they eliminated the whole role

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omg I wish I had this info when I first got fired 2 years ago. nobody tells you ANY of this. I thought I wouldn't qualify because my boss said I was fired (not laid off) and I almost didn't even file. turns out I totally qualified and got benefits no problem. ALWAYS FILE even if you're not sure, let EDD decide

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This is actually really reassuring, thank you. I almost talked myself out of filing too.

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worst they can say is no!! and then you can appeal anyway lol

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Something else worth knowing - the employer side of this equation: your old employer pays into the UI system based on their 'experience rating.' Companies that frequently lay people off or whose former employees collect a lot of UI pay higher tax rates (up to 6.2% of wages in CA). Companies with low turnover and few claims pay lower rates (as low as 1.5%). This is why some employers fight claims even when the employee clearly qualifies - every successful claim ticks up their future tax burden. Don't be surprised if your former employer submits a response to EDD disputing your reason for separation. They might claim misconduct even if it wasn't. This happens a lot with certain types of terminations. Stay calm, document everything you have, and respond to any EDD communications promptly.

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So they might fight it even though they eliminated my department? That seems ridiculous but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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Honestly with a department elimination it's very unlikely they'd dispute it - there's no viable misconduct claim. But keep any emails or documents about the restructuring just in case.

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I had an employer dispute my claim even though my firing was clearly not misconduct related. They lost but it delayed my benefits by 3 weeks during adjudication. Just be prepared for the possibility.

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can i ask a dumb question - does the employer actually KNOW when you file for unemployment? like will my old boss find out i filed?

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Not a dumb question at all. Yes, California EDD notifies the employer when a former employee files a claim. The employer has a window to respond/contest. So your old employer will know you filed. This is normal and expected - don't let it deter you from filing if you're entitled to benefits.

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oh wow i had no idea. so there's no way to file without them knowing

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Correct, it's built into the process. EDD needs the employer's payroll and separation information to process the claim accurately. The employer notification is standard procedure everywhere, not just California.

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I got fired last spring and went through the whole process. Few things I learned that nobody told me upfront: 1) File immediately, don't wait - there's already a one week unpaid waiting period built in, so the sooner you file the sooner your clock starts. 2) Keep certifying every two weeks on schedule even while your claim is 'pending' - missing a certification can cause major headaches later. 3) Document your job search activities from day one - California requires you to look for work (contact 3 employers per week minimum) and keep a log. 4) Respond to ANY mail or messages from EDD immediately, even if you're confused about what they're asking. Delays on your end = delays in benefits.

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The job search requirement - does that start immediately? Even before my claim is approved?

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Technically yes, job search requirements begin with your first week of claims. Keep a log from day one. You might not be asked to show it immediately but if you're ever audited or flagged you need records.

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The 3 contacts per week requirement is real and they can audit it. Keep a spreadsheet with employer name, date contacted, method of contact, and result. Simple but important.

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Since this thread is getting some good info I'll add the federal funding piece that nobody's mentioned: California's UI system is partially backstopped federally. The federal government maintains an unemployment trust fund that states can borrow from if their state funds run low (California had to do this during high unemployment periods). The federal tax (FUTA) that employers pay is 6% on first $7,000 of wages but employers get a 5.4% credit if the state UI taxes are paid, so effectively 0.6% federal. This federal layer ensures the system can keep paying benefits even during economic downturns. For you as a claimant, this doesn't change anything practically - you just file through California EDD and get paid from the state fund. But it explains why UI benefits are federally regulated in certain ways even though states administer them.

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I didn't even know there was a federal component to this. So it's kind of a safety net within a safety net.

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Exactly. Federal law sets the framework and minimums, states implement and fund day to day. California is fairly generous with its UI system compared to many states.

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Just want to share my experience because it's relevant - I was fired about 4 months ago and the hardest part honestly wasn't the qualifying, it was getting my questions answered by EDD. I kept getting busy signals or getting disconnected after being on hold forever. I eventually used Claimyr to get through to an actual EDD representative. You just go to claimyr.com and it handles the hold queue for you - they call when an agent is available. Made a stressful situation way less stressful. There's a walkthrough video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see how it works before trying it.

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I've actually already had trouble getting through when I tried calling EDD once. Good to know this exists before I really need it.

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Yeah save it for when you really need a live agent. Things like adjudication questions, payment issues, or if something weird shows up on your claim - those are the times you really need a human and EDD phones are notoriously hard.

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the EDD phone situation is genuinely one of the most frustrating parts of dealing with unemployment. services like claimyr are a lifesaver when you actually need answers and the portal isn't giving them

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Something I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure you understand the BASE PERIOD used to calculate your benefits. California uses a 'standard base period' which is the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. So if you just got fired this week in 2025, your base period is roughly Q4 2023 through Q3 2024. If you had a significant income change or gap during that window it could affect your benefit amount. If your earnings in the standard base period are low, you can request an 'alternate base period' which uses the four most recent completed quarters. This could get you a higher weekly benefit amount if your recent earnings were better.

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This is confusing me a bit - so my 2025 earnings so far might NOT be counted in my benefit calculation?

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Correct - the standard base period typically lags behind your actual filing date by several months. Your most recent quarter usually isn't counted in the standard calculation. That's specifically why the alternate base period option exists.

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This trips up a LOT of people. Always ask EDD or check UI Online to see which quarters are being used and what your projected weekly benefit amount will be before fully committing to your strategy.

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honest question from someone who's been through this multiple times (unfortunately) - OP when they ask on the claim form about your separation, do NOT put anything like 'fired' without context. Use language like 'involuntary layoff' or 'position eliminated due to restructuring' if that's what happened. The way you describe it in your initial claim sets the stage for everything that follows. Being fired and being laid off are both covered under California UI but the framing matters for how quickly it processes.

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Is it okay to use that framing if my department was genuinely eliminated? I don't want to misrepresent it but I also want to be accurate.

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If your department was eliminated, then saying your position was eliminated due to restructuring IS accurate. You're not spinning it, you're just being precise about what actually happened. Saying just 'fired' is technically true but vague and might trigger more scrutiny.

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This is good advice. Be accurate but be complete. 'My department was eliminated as part of a company restructuring' tells the whole story and is completely accurate.

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ugh reading this thread is giving me flashbacks to when I got fired from my restaurant job and had NO idea what to do. I thought unemployment was only for people who got laid off, genuinely didn't know fired people could qualify. My manager literally told me I wouldn't be able to get unemployment - which was a lie, I got approved fine. Employers will sometimes tell you this to discourage you from filing because it affects their taxes. Don't listen to them.

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My HR person actually did say something kind of vague about whether I'd 'qualify' which now makes me wonder if they were trying to discourage me. I filed anyway.

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Good that you filed. HR works for the company, not for you. They have no incentive to help you get unemployment.

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this happens ALL the time. employers cannot legally stop you from filing. they can respond to the claim but they cannot legally interfere with your right to file

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Let me also address the 'who pays' question one more time from a slightly different angle since it's literally in your post title. The honest answer is: everyone does, kind of. Your employer paid in through their payroll taxes. But so did every other employer in California, and in aggregate that fund is what pays all claimants. There's also a State Disability Insurance fund (SDI) that's funded by employee payroll deductions - that's for disability and paid family leave, NOT regular UI. Regular UI is 100% employer-funded in California. Employees in California don't pay into the UI fund directly. So your benefits come from taxes your employer (and all employers) paid, administered by the state through California EDD.

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Oh interesting - so as an employee I wasn't actually contributing to unemployment insurance through my paycheck? Only my employer was?

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Correct for regular UI. The SDI deduction you see on your California paystub goes to disability/PFL, not to UI. Your UI benefits are funded solely by employer taxes.

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This is an important distinction. Some people think they're 'getting their money back' when they collect UI, but technically it's employer-funded. That said, you absolutely earned those benefits through your work, your employer was paying those taxes as a cost of employing you.

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also just want to confirm - getting fired does NOT automatically disqualify you in California. EDD uses the term 'misconduct' as the disqualifying standard. Misconduct has a specific legal definition in California - it means a willful or wanton disregard for the employer's interests. Things like showing up late occasionally, having a bad attitude, underperforming, getting into conflicts with coworkers - these generally DON'T meet the misconduct standard even if they're the reason you got fired. Things that DO qualify as misconduct: theft, harassment, deliberately violating clear policies you knew about, coming to work intoxicated repeatedly. The bar for misconduct is actually fairly high in California.

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I can confirm this from personal experience. I was fired for 'poor performance' and EDD approved my claim because poor performance doesn't equal misconduct. My employer literally tried to claim it was misconduct and EDD rejected that argument.

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This is really comforting. My performance reviews were actually fine - this was purely about the company deciding to cut my department for cost reasons. Should be clean.

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That's about as solid a qualifying scenario as exists. You're in good shape.

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For anyone reading this thread later - the full flow of how California unemployment works financially when you get fired: 1. You file on UI Online at edd.ca.gov 2. EDD contacts your former employer for their version of events 3. If no dispute, your claim is approved within a few weeks 4. If disputed, goes to adjudication (a review/investigation process) 5. Benefits paid from the California UI Trust Fund (employer-funded) 6. You certify every two weeks confirming you're still unemployed and job searching 7. Benefits pay out up to 26 weeks The employer never pays you directly - the state fund does. Your employer's future tax rate may be affected by your claim.

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This is exactly the kind of step-by-step breakdown I needed. Bookmarking this whole thread honestly.

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Great summary. The only thing I'd add is to make sure you have your myEDD account set up properly and your payment method (SDI debit card or direct deposit) confirmed early so there's no delay when your first payment comes through.

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One thing that confused me when I went through this - the 'waiting week.' The first week of your unemployment is unpaid no matter what. It's called the waiting period. You still have to certify for it, it still counts as your first week, but you get $0 for that week. Week 2 and beyond you get paid. This catches a LOT of people off guard when they're expecting their first payment and it's less than they thought.

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Oh no, that's going to hurt. So basically week one is a freebie for EDD and then it starts?

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Yeah it's frustrating but it's the law. File immediately so that waiting week starts ASAP and doesn't delay your actual payments any further than necessary.

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The waiting week requirement exists in most states actually, not just California. It was originally designed to filter out very short-term unemployment. Just budget for that gap.

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Came back to add - I saw a comment earlier mention keeping documentation of your job search. Just wanted to emphasize: California EDD requires you to log your job search activities EVERY WEEK you certify. The current requirement is to make contact with at least 3 potential employers per week. You don't submit the log to EDD weekly but you must keep it because if you're ever selected for an audit or your claim is flagged, they can ask to see it. I actually got a letter from EDD asking me to submit my job search log after 6 months on benefits and I was SO glad I had kept records. If you hadn't kept records or couldn't prove the contacts, they can potentially disqualify past weeks of benefits and ask for repayment.

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Yikes, the repayment thing is scary. I'll start my job search log today even though I just filed. Better safe than sorry.

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Exactly the right attitude. It takes 2 minutes per entry. Just a simple spreadsheet: company name, contact method, date, person you contacted, result. That's all you need.

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There are also free job search log templates on the EDD website. California EDD actually provides a form DE 1800A that works well for this. Either the official form or your own equivalent spreadsheet will satisfy the requirement.

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Late to this thread but want to add one more thing about the 'fired vs laid off' framing. In California, the term of art EDD uses is 'discharge' not 'fired.' When you were let go by your employer's decision (for any reason), that's a 'discharge.' When you quit, that's a 'voluntary quit' which has a different and harder standard to qualify under. If you were discharged (fired, let go, laid off - all fall under this) and it wasn't for misconduct, you qualify. Simple as that. The funding mechanism we've been discussing - employer UI taxes into the trust fund - applies equally to all qualifying separations.

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That's a helpful clarification - so on EDD forms when it asks about my separation, the correct term is 'discharged' not 'fired'?

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Exactly. 'Discharged by employer' is the formal EDD terminology for being fired or laid off. When you're filling out forms use that language - it's accurate and it's the terminology EDD's system is built around.

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This is a great point about language that can genuinely affect processing speed. Using EDD's own terminology on their forms helps avoid confusion and flags.

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Update for everyone who helped me in this thread: I got my first payment yesterday! Claim was approved without going to adjudication - I think because the department elimination was so clear cut. Weekly benefit amount came out to $412/week based on my earnings. Not what I was making but it's keeping me afloat. Also I did end up using Claimyr when I had a question about my benefit calculation and couldn't get through to EDD directly - worked exactly as people described, got connected to a live agent within a reasonable time. Thanks everyone for explaining how the whole funding system works and what to expect. This thread should help other people who just got fired and have no idea what's going on.

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So glad it worked out! Congrats on the approval. Good luck with the job search.

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Great outcome! $412/week is solid. Remember to keep certifying every two weeks and keep that job search log going. Hoping you find something great soon.

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Awesome update! Yeah Claimyr is great for exactly those situations where you have a specific question about your claim details that the portal can't answer. Glad it helped. Good luck out there!

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