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Can I get unemployment if I'm fired? Just got let go and filing with California EDD

So I got fired from my job last week and I honestly don't even know where to start. I've never filed for unemployment before in my life. My manager called me in and said they were 'letting me go' but gave me zero real explanation beyond 'performance issues' - which I think is totally bogus because I never received a single written warning the entire time I worked there. I have like $400 in my account and rent is due in three weeks so I'm freaking out a little. I went to the California EDD website and started filling out the UI application but then it asked me questions about why I was separated from my employer and I got nervous I was answering wrong. Can you actually get unemployment benefits if you were fired? I always assumed it was only for people who got laid off. Someone at the bar told me getting fired automatically disqualifies you but that doesn't sound right either. What actually happens when California EDD reviews a termination case? Do they contact my old employer? I'm in the Los Angeles area if that matters at all.

You can absolutely file for unemployment after being fired, that's a common misconception. Being fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from California EDD benefits. What matters is the reason for the termination. California EDD will look at whether you were fired for 'misconduct' as defined under California unemployment law - and misconduct has a very specific legal meaning. Simple performance issues, mistakes, or being bad at a job typically does NOT meet the legal definition of misconduct. You'd generally only be disqualified if you were fired for something like intentional wrongdoing, deliberate policy violations, theft, harassment, etc. File your claim right away - you're losing potential benefit weeks every day you wait.

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Wait seriously?? So performance issues alone might not disqualify me? That's the first thing that's made me feel better all week. I'm filing tonight.

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This is correct. I work in HR and can confirm that California unemployment law draws a clear line between 'misconduct' (disqualifying) and 'unsatisfactory performance' (not necessarily disqualifying). Your employer will be contacted and asked to provide their reason for termination.

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yeah but edd still puts it in adjudication when you get fired which takes forever just fyi

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Same thing happened to me six months ago, fired for 'attitude problems' which was completely made up. I was terrified to even apply thinking I'd automatically be denied. Applied anyway and got approved after about 5 weeks. The adjudication period was stressful but it worked out. Keep filing your weekly certifications the whole time even while waiting - do NOT stop filing just because the claim is pending!

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Oh wow 5 weeks is a long time. Did you receive back pay for all those weeks once approved?

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Yes! Once it was approved they paid out all the weeks I had filed certifications for going back to the start. That's why you HAVE to keep filing weekly even during adjudication, otherwise you lose those weeks permanently.

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This exactly happened to me too. The back pay thing is real, don't skip your weekly certifications no matter what.

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Filing tip from someone who's been through this: when California EDD asks why you were separated, answer honestly and concisely. Don't write a novel, don't badmouth your employer, just state the facts. 'I was informed my employment was terminated due to performance concerns. I was not given any prior written warnings.' That's it. Keep it neutral and factual. The adjudication process is basically EDD calling your employer and asking them to explain the misconduct - if they can't substantiate actual misconduct, you win.

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This is really helpful framing. I was going to write like 3 paragraphs defending myself but maybe less is more?

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Definitely less is more in that initial filing. You'll have a chance to submit more detail later if they schedule an interview or request more info. Don't give your employer ammunition to use against you.

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Agreed. My cousin wrote way too much on his claim and it actually created more questions. Keep it simple.

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I went through being fired and applying for California EDD last year and honestly the hardest part for me wasn't even the application, it was trying to call EDD when my claim got stuck in adjudication with no updates for weeks. Spent DAYS trying to reach a live person. Eventually someone in another forum suggested Claimyr (claimyr.com) - it's a service that navigates the EDD phone system and gets you connected to an actual agent. There's a video that shows how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. Got through to an agent within a day and they were able to tell me exactly what was holding up my claim. If you hit a wall trying to reach EDD, that's something to keep in mind.

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I haven't even started trying to call yet but I'm saving this for when I inevitably need it. The EDD phone system has a terrible reputation.

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Can confirm Claimyr works, used it last spring. The phone queue was totally impossible on my own.

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omg I wish I knew about this when I was dealing with my adjudication situation. Spent 3 weeks calling and getting disconnected every single time

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EDD is going to contact your previous employer, that part is definitely true. Your employer has a chance to respond and explain why they fired you. If they claim misconduct they need to actually back it up with documentation - write-ups, warnings, policies you violated etc. If they just say 'poor performance' with nothing to support it, EDD tends to side with the claimant. The burden is kind of on the employer to prove disqualifying misconduct.

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What if my employer lies about what happened? Is there any way to dispute what they tell EDD?

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Yes, absolutely. If you're disqualified based on employer statements you disagree with, you have the right to appeal within 30 days of the disqualification notice. You can submit your own documentation, witness statements, whatever supports your version. The appeals process goes through the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB).

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Appeals are very claimant-friendly in California. Don't be afraid to use that process if needed.

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not to be a downer but my experience getting fired was rough with edd. they put my claim in adjudication and it took 7 weeks with literally zero communication. I never knew what was happening. Eventually approved but the waiting was brutal especially with bills piling up. Just be mentally prepared for that possibility.

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7 weeks is terrifying honestly. Were you working at all during that time or just waiting?

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I picked up some gig work here and there but had to report every dollar on my weekly cert which reduced my benefit amount. Still worth it though, better than nothing.

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Always always always report any income on your weekly certifications. Hiding it is fraud and not worth the risk of an overpayment notice later.

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Quick correction to something I saw implied upthread - California EDD doesn't 'side with' anyone automatically. They conduct an independent investigation and make a determination based on the facts. That said, California unemployment law genuinely does set a high bar for what constitutes disqualifying misconduct. The California Supreme Court has ruled that misconduct requires a 'willful or wanton disregard of the employer's interests' - meaning accidents, poor judgment, or inability to meet performance standards typically won't disqualify you. This is why so many fired workers in California are actually eligible.

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Thank you for the legal clarification. I knew the bar was high but didn't know the actual legal standard.

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Willful or wanton' disregard - okay so basically'I d have to have done something intentionally harmful to my employer. That'doesn t describe my situation atall.

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Exactly right. Exactly. File your claim and answer honestly about what happened. The law is more on your side than you probably think.

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PLEASE don't listen to people who tell you not to bother filing because you were fired. I almost didn't file for that exact reason and it would have been a huge mistake. California is actually one of the better states for unemployed workers rights. Just file and let the process play out. Worst case you get denied and you appeal.

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This 100%. File no matter what. You literally have nothing to lose by applying.

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Yeah I'm definitely filing now. This thread has been way more helpful than anything I could find googling around.

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Something practical: gather any documentation you have before your claim gets reviewed. Text messages, emails, performance reviews (even verbal feedback you got), anything showing you weren't warned or that the stated reason doesn't hold up. You probably won't need it immediately but if your claim goes to adjudication and you get an interview with an EDD investigator, having that stuff ready helps a lot.

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I don't have much in writing but I do have some texts that might be relevant. Good to know I should hang onto those.

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Screenshots are fine, just make sure they're organized by date so you can reference them quickly if you get an interview call.

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Former HR here again - also request a copy of your personnel file from your employer if you can. In California employees generally have the right to review their personnel records.

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idk why this is even a question lol of course you can get unemployment if fired. my friend got it twice both times from being fired. edd just checks if you did something crazy bad basically

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I mean the answer is more nuanced than that but the end result is roughly accurate for most situations.

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yeah whatever same thing

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One thing nobody mentioned yet: make sure you file your claim ASAP if you haven't already. California EDD has a one-week unpaid waiting period before benefits start, and that waiting period begins from when you file, not when you were fired. Every day you wait is potentially money lost. Also the benefit year starts from your filing week so you want to establish that as early as possible.

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I got fired Thursday so it's been almost a week. Filing tonight for sure after reading all this.

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Good. Also as a note, the waiting period was temporarily suspended during COVID but it's back now. So the first week you're eligible is basically just a waiting week with no payment - week 2 onward is when payments start.

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Yeah that first week unpaid is annoying but at least it's only one week not two like some other states

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How much would you even get though? Like does it matter how long you worked there or what you were making?

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California EDD calculates your weekly benefit amount based on your earnings during a 'base period' - typically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. The amount is roughly 60-70% of your average weekly earnings up to a maximum. For 2025 the max weekly benefit amount is around $450.

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Oh okay so it depends on your salary. Makes sense I guess

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Correct, and you need to have earned enough wages during the base period to qualify at all. Most people who worked a regular job for at least 6 months or so will meet the earnings threshold.

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Coming back to add - if your claim does end up stuck and you need EDD help, Claimyr (claimyr.com) genuinely saved me weeks of frustration. The video demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 explains the whole thing. When you're dealing with adjudication on a termination claim and the clock is ticking on your bills, getting an actual human at EDD on the phone makes a massive difference versus just staring at a pending status screen.

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Bookmarked. The pending status screen anxiety sounds extremely real and I haven't even gotten there yet.

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It's real. Very real. Having a way to actually get through to EDD is worth so much during that waiting period.

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Can I ask a related question - what if you kind of knew you were about to be fired and quit first? Does that change anything for California EDD?

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Yes it changes things significantly. Quitting generally disqualifies you unless you can show 'good cause' for quitting - which is defined differently than misconduct. If you quit to avoid being fired, EDD will likely treat it as a voluntary quit without good cause and deny benefits. In most cases it's better to wait and actually be terminated.

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Ugh I wish I had known that a year ago when I quit right before I was definitely about to be fired. Lost out on months of benefits probably.

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Yeah this is a really important point for anyone reading this. Do not preemptively quit. Let the termination happen.

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wait can you get fired AND get severance AND still get unemployment? asking for a friend lol

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You can receive severance and still apply for unemployment. However, if your severance is structured as continued wages (meaning your employer is technically treating you as still employed for a period), that can delay when your benefit year starts. If it's a lump sum with no ongoing employment relationship, it generally doesn't affect your EDD eligibility.

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interesting. my friend got 2 weeks severance as a lump sum payment

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In that case your friend should be fine to file immediately. Lump sum severance typically doesn't affect California EDD eligibility.

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The job search requirement is something nobody mentioned - once you start receiving California EDD benefits you're required to make a minimum number of job search contacts each week (currently 3 per week in most areas) and you have to log them. Don't ignore this. If EDD audits your claim and you can't show you were actively seeking work, you could face an overpayment determination.

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Oh I didn't even know about this requirement. So I need to be actively applying to jobs and tracking it?

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Exactly. Keep a log with employer name, contact method, position, and date for each contact. You don't submit it every week but you need it available if EDD ever requests it.

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Also register with CalJOBS (the state job search site) - EDD requires this and it's one of the things they check.

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I got fired for being late too many times and got approved for EDD benefits. My employer said I was terminated for 'repeated tardiness' and EDD still approved me. I think they determined it wasn't malicious misconduct or something. Point being even things that sound bad might not actually disqualify you.

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Tardiness is actually a good example because even repeated tardiness usually isn't considered 'misconduct' under California law unless there were clear written warnings and the employee just completely blew them off anyway. Attendance issues tend to fall under performance/inability to meet standards rather than willful misconduct.

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That tracks with what happened in my case. They couldn't show I had been warned enough times in writing.

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This is really encouraging honestly. I feel much better about my situation now.

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One more thing I want to add that I learned the hard way - after you submit your initial claim, set up your UI Online account immediately and make sure your bank info is entered for direct deposit or request a debit card. EDD will not automatically know how to pay you. I missed setting this up and there was an additional delay before my first payment went through.

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Good call, I'll do that tonight when I file. UI Online is the EDD website portal right?

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Yes, UI Online at myedd.edd.ca.gov - that's where you do everything: weekly certifications, check claim status, update payment info, see correspondence from EDD.

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Also download the EDD mobile app if you have a smartphone, makes weekly certs way easier

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Checking back in on this thread - OP if your claim ends up in adjudication for more than 3-4 weeks with no update, that's when I'd strongly recommend trying Claimyr. The phone system is notoriously brutal for termination cases because the adjudication team is different from the regular claims team. Getting through to the right person can unstick a claim that would otherwise just sit forever. claimyr.com and the demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 give you the full picture of how it works.

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I'm going to file tonight and see what happens. If I hit that wall I'll definitely reach out through Claimyr. Thank you to everyone in this thread, I came in panicking and I'm leaving feeling like I actually have a shot.

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You do have a shot. California unemployment law genuinely protects workers in situations like yours. Good luck!

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Update us when you find out! Rooting for you.

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