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Ethan Clark

If I was terminated can I get unemployment in California EDD?

So I got let go from my job last week and I'm honestly not sure if I even qualify for unemployment benefits. My manager called me into a meeting out of nowhere and said they were letting me go - gave me some vague reason about 'performance issues' but never gave me any written warnings before this or put me on any kind of improvement plan. I'd been with the company for almost two years and never had any formal disciplinary action on my record. Now I'm sitting here wondering if California EDD is going to approve my claim or deny it because of how I was terminated. I filed my initial claim online already but I'm terrified they're going to say I was fired for misconduct and disqualify me. Does being terminated automatically mean you can't collect UI benefits? Or does it depend on WHY you were fired? I genuinely have no idea how this works and the EDD website isn't exactly written in plain English. Any help would be really appreciated.

Great question and honestly one of the most common misconceptions about unemployment - being terminated does NOT automatically disqualify you from California EDD benefits. The key thing EDD looks at is the reason behind the termination. If you were laid off or let go without serious misconduct on your part, you generally qualify. Misconduct in EDD's definition is actually pretty specific - it means a willful or deliberate violation of a reasonable employer rule, not just poor performance or not being a good fit. Sounds like your situation could very well qualify for UI benefits.

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Okay that's really reassuring. So 'performance issues' without any documentation or warnings probably wouldn't count as misconduct in EDD's eyes?

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Correct. EDD typically requires the employer to prove misconduct with actual documentation. Vague verbal reasons and no paper trail usually work in the claimant's favor during adjudication.

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This is right. I work in HR and the burden of proof is on the employer to demonstrate misconduct. Performance issues alone, especially without a PIP or written warnings, rarely meet EDD's misconduct threshold.

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yeah i got terminated a while back and was SO scared to even file because i thought being fired meant automatic denial. Nope! Got approved after a few weeks. EDD does an investigation where they contact your former employer and ask for their side of the story too. The adjudication process basically weighs both accounts.

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Did they ask you a lot of questions during that process? I'm worried my old employer is going to exaggerate what happened.

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They sent me a questionnaire asking me to explain the circumstances around my separation. Just be honest and specific - give dates, explain there were no formal warnings, that kind of thing. The more detail the better.

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same here got fired and still got approved. dont assume you wont qualify just because you were let go

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Filing right away was smart. One thing to know - after you file your initial claim, California EDD may send you a Notice of Interview or a phone interview request to discuss the circumstances of your termination. This is super important to respond to. Missing that interview can result in a denial even if you had a legitimate case. Keep checking your UI Online account and your mailing address for any notices.

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How soon after filing do they usually schedule that interview? I filed like 4 days ago and haven't heard anything yet.

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Timing varies a lot - could be a week, could be 3-4 weeks. The claim goes into adjudication while EDD investigates the separation reason. Check UI Online daily and make sure your contact info is current.

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Also make sure your phone number on file is correct and you're available to answer calls from unknown numbers - EDD interviewers call from numbers that sometimes show up as spam on caller ID!

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I was in a really similar boat last year - got terminated with basically no documentation and had to wait out the adjudication process which was stressful. When I was trying to get updates on my claim status I could NOT get through to anyone at EDD by phone. Tried for weeks. Someone in a different forum suggested I try Claimyr (claimyr.com) - it basically navigates the EDD phone system and gets you connected to an actual agent. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. Used it when my adjudication dragged past 5 weeks and finally got a real person who could tell me where my claim stood. Huge relief.

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Ugh I've already tried calling twice and couldn't get through. I'll check out that Claimyr thing - did it actually work quickly?

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For me yeah, got connected within the same day. The agent I spoke to was able to tell me my claim was still in adjudication pending employer response and gave me a clearer timeline. Worth it just to stop guessing.

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gonna bookmark claimyr.com for when I inevitably need to call EDD... their phone lines are a nightmare

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wait does that actually work?? I've literally spent hours on hold with EDD and given up every time

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To directly answer your original question: California EDD distinguishes between being discharged (fired) for misconduct vs. being discharged for reasons that don't constitute misconduct. Under California Unemployment Insurance Code, misconduct specifically means a substantial breach of a duty owed to the employer. Examples that typically qualify as misconduct: theft, repeated insubordination after warnings, violation of a clearly communicated policy. What does NOT typically qualify: poor performance, inability to meet expectations without deliberate intent, or conflicts with management. Your situation - terminated without formal documentation or a disciplinary trail - sounds more like the latter.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you. So I should make sure to mention in my EDD interview that there were no written warnings and no performance improvement plan?

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Absolutely. Specifically state: no written warnings, no formal disciplinary meetings, no PIP, and that this was your first indication that your job was at risk. That context matters significantly in EDD's determination.

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Does the length of employment matter? Like being there almost 2 years vs. a few months?

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Employment length affects your benefit amount (based on wages earned) but not necessarily the misconduct determination itself. However it does add credibility to a 'no prior issues' claim.

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honestly the EDD website is SO confusing i remember when i first filed i thought terminated automatically meant denied. spent like 2 hours reading through their FAQ pages and still wasn't sure. this thread is more helpful than anything on their official site lol

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Right?? The official language is so dense. I appreciate everyone breaking it down here.

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also make sure you're filing your weekly certifications every week even while your claim is in adjudication! i forgot to do this for like 3 weeks and it created a whole mess

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Quick clarification on something important - when you file your weekly certifications, you'll be asked whether you were 'fired, quit, or laid off.' Answer accurately (terminated/fired). Don't overthink the wording or try to soften it. EDD already knows from your initial claim how the separation happened, and inconsistencies between your initial filing and weekly certs can raise red flags.

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Good to know. I was wondering if I should say 'laid off' instead since it wasn't really for a clear reason but I'll just say terminated.

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Stick with terminated - it's accurate and EDD doesn't penalize the word itself. What matters is the adjudication findings about WHY you were terminated, not the label.

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THE WAITING IS THE WORST PART. I was terminated 8 months ago and my adjudication dragged on for SEVEN weeks. Seven!! Meanwhile bills are piling up and EDD won't tell you anything useful when you do manage to get someone on the phone. The whole system feels designed to make you give up.

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Seven weeks is terrifying to think about. Did you eventually get approved?

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Yes finally approved and got all back pay for the weeks I certified. But those 7 weeks were genuinely brutal. Document EVERYTHING and follow up constantly.

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This is exactly why I used Claimyr during my adjudication period - not knowing anything for weeks is maddening. Having an actual agent explain your claim status makes a huge difference mentally even when you can't speed up the process.

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One more practical tip: get your employment records together now before the EDD interview. Things like: your offer letter, any performance reviews (which if they're positive actually help your case), email records of your work, pay stubs, and any communication around your termination. You don't necessarily submit all of this but having it ready means you can speak accurately about your employment history during the interview.

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I have all my pay stubs and I do have some positive performance review emails from like 8 months ago. Should I mention those during the interview?

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Absolutely mention them. Positive reviews followed by a sudden termination with no documented disciplinary steps in between is a strong narrative for EDD adjudication purposes.

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Yeah having receipts matters. My former employer tried to claim I violated a policy and I was able to point out that I'd never been informed of that policy in writing. EDD sided with me.

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does anyone know if it matters what industry you were in? like i'm in food service and wondering if EDD treats terminations differently for that sector vs like an office job

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EDD's misconduct standard applies uniformly regardless of industry. The key factors are the same: was there a clear rule, were you aware of it, did you deliberately violate it. Industry doesn't change that analysis.

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ok good to know. i was worried because restaurants fire people so casually that EDD might assume it's always misconduct

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filed my claim after getting fired from a warehouse job and got approved no problem. My old manager tried to say I violated safety protocols but I had never been trained on whatever they were talking about. EDD sided with me because the employer couldn't prove I had received any training documentation. point is - fight for your claim don't just assume you'll be denied

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That gives me a lot of hope honestly. My former employer has basically no paper trail on me at all.

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Then you're probably in good shape. No paper trail = harder for them to prove misconduct. EDD can't penalize you for things that were never documented.

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wait so if you're fired and your employer says you were fired for misconduct but you disagree, what happens? does EDD just believe the employer??

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No - EDD investigates both sides. They'll send questionnaires to both you and your former employer, then weigh the evidence. If the employer claims misconduct but can't back it up with documentation, EDD typically sides with the claimant.

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oh okay that makes way more sense. I always assumed they'd just take the employer's word for it

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Common misconception. EDD is actually fairly claimant-friendly in adjudication when misconduct isn't clearly documented. The burden is on the employer to prove it, not on you to disprove it.

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went through this exact process six months ago. one thing nobody told me was to write down a timeline of your last few weeks at that job BEFORE your EDD interview while everything is fresh. dates, conversations, who said what - as much detail as you can remember. when the EDD phone interview finally came I was so glad I had notes because they ask very specific questions

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This is such practical advice, doing this tonight while everything is still fresh in my mind.

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Good call. They asked me things like 'when was the last time you spoke to your supervisor about performance' and 'were you given any opportunity to correct the issue' - having a timeline helped me answer accurately

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i mean technically every termination COULD be misconduct in EDD's view right?? i heard they sometimes deny claims even when you're laid off

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Not exactly - layoffs are almost always approved because there's no misconduct involved. The tricky situations are terminations where the employer claims misconduct. But even then EDD has a high bar for what legally constitutes misconduct under UI code.

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okay so laid off = basically always approved and fired = depends on the reason. got it

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That's a reasonable simplification. Though even 'laid off' claims can go to adjudication if there's something unusual about the separation. The important thing is to always file and let EDD make the determination rather than assuming you won't qualify.

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Just want to add - even if you DO get denied initially, you have the right to appeal within 30 days of the Notice of Determination. Many termination-related denials get overturned on appeal especially when the employer can't substantiate their misconduct claim in an actual hearing. So file, and if denied, appeal immediately.

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I didn't know the appeals process was that accessible. That's comforting to know there's a backup option.

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Yes - California EDD appeals go before an Administrative Law Judge and you can present evidence and testimony. Employers often don't bother showing up to appeal hearings which also helps claimants.

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Appeals process saved my cousin's claim. Employer claimed misconduct at the initial stage, couldn't prove it at the hearing, claim was approved with all back pay. Worth pursuing if denied.

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sorry to hijack but this thread reminded me of my situation lol - I quit my job but my employer is saying I was fired. does EDD investigate that kind of dispute too or are you just stuck with whatever they decide?

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Yes EDD investigates these disputed separation reasons too. If both parties give conflicting accounts of whether it was a quit vs. discharge, EDD will review the evidence - things like any written communication, whether you gave notice, who initiated the final conversation, etc.

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okay good because my old company is being really shady about how they're characterizing what happened

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honestly just file and don't overthink it. so many people don't file because they assume they won't qualify and they leave money on the table. worst case you get denied and then appeal. best case you get approved. the only guaranteed way to not get benefits is to not apply at all

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This is genuinely what I needed to hear. I almost didn't file because I was so sure I'd get denied automatically.

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filed after getting let go from a job i honestly wasn't great at lol. still got approved because 'not being great at your job' is not EDD misconduct

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^^^ this. so many people self-disqualify before EDD even has a chance to review their claim

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OP - one more thing on the phone situation. During adjudication you might want to check in with EDD a couple times especially if it drags past 3-4 weeks. I mentioned Claimyr earlier (claimyr.com) - used it twice during my adjudication and both times got actual useful information from EDD agents about my claim status. There's a demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see how it works before trying it. Especially helpful for something like a termination claim where the waiting and uncertainty are brutal.

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I'm definitely keeping this in my back pocket. If my claim goes more than a month with no updates I'll try it.

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Seconded - I used it when my adjudication hit week 5 and the agent I reached was actually able to look at my specific claim notes and tell me what was happening. That kind of specificity you just can't get from the automated system.

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To circle back to your original question for anyone finding this thread later: yes, you CAN get California EDD unemployment if you were terminated. The key factors are: (1) did you earn enough wages in your base period to qualify, (2) are you able and available to work, and (3) was the termination due to misconduct as legally defined by EDD. If the answer to 1 and 2 is yes and the answer to 3 is no (no misconduct), you qualify. Based on what OP described - no documented warnings, vague performance reason, no PIP - this sounds like a qualifying separation.

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Thank you for summarizing it so clearly. This whole thread has been incredibly helpful and I feel way less panicked about my claim now.

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Good luck with your claim. File your weekly certs every week without fail, respond to any EDD correspondence immediately, and be patient with adjudication. You've got this.

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Great summary. For anyone else reading - the base period wages question is also important. Generally you need to have earned enough in the 5-18 months before your claim to meet EDD's minimum threshold. For most people who've been employed full time for nearly 2 years like OP, this isn't usually an issue.

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my sister just went through this and I watched her stress about it for weeks. she was convinced she'd be denied because she was fired. approved after 5 weeks of adjudication and got all her back-certified weeks paid out at once. honestly the lump sum was a nice surprise after all that waiting

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Oh that's good to know the back pay comes all at once - I didn't realize that's how it works during adjudication.

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Yeah you keep certifying weekly even while in adjudication, and when they finally approve you they release all the payments for those certified weeks at once. So the wait is painful but you don't actually lose those weeks.

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Correct - this is why it's SO important to keep filing your weekly certifications even when nothing seems to be happening with your claim. Those weeks are being banked pending your approval.

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