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Natasha Volkov

Can you file for unemployment if you were fired in California?

So I got fired from my job last Tuesday and I honestly don't know where to stand with all this. I'd been at the company for about 4 years working in logistics coordination and out of nowhere my manager called me into a meeting and let me go. They said it was due to 'performance issues' but I genuinely disagree with that assessment - I never received any written warnings and my last review was actually decent. A coworker told me I probably can't file for unemployment if I was fired but that doesn't sound right to me either. I went ahead and filed a claim through UI Online anyway but now I'm second guessing myself. Can you actually file for California EDD unemployment benefits if you were terminated? Does being fired automatically disqualify you or does it depend on the circumstances? I have bills due in like two weeks and I'm spiraling a little bit trying to figure out if I have any shot at getting approved.

Yes you absolutely can file if you were fired. Being terminated does NOT automatically disqualify you from California EDD unemployment benefits. The key distinction EDD looks at is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' as defined under California unemployment law. Getting let go due to performance issues, company restructuring, personality conflicts, or reasons that aren't deliberate misconduct typically qualifies you for benefits. Your situation actually sounds like it could work in your favor since you mentioned no written warnings and a decent review - that weakens any misconduct argument from the employer's side.

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This is really reassuring to hear. I was so convinced my coworker was right. So EDD will contact my former employer to get their side of the story too?

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Yes, California EDD will send a questionnaire to your former employer asking them to describe the reason for separation. You'll also get a chance to explain your side. That's part of the adjudication process - EDD weighs both sides before making a determination. Just be honest and detailed when you respond to any requests for information.

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same thing happened to me last year, got fired and still got approved. just make sure you respond fast when edd sends you letters

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Your coworker is wrong lol. tons of people get unemployment after being fired. the only time it really becomes a problem is if you did something like stole from the company or intentionally violated a major policy. 'performance issues' is pretty vague and employers love to use that phrase to try and dodge paying into unemployment but EDD sees through it.

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That's what I'm hoping. They never put anything in writing about performance concerns. Would that help my case?

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Definitely helps. No documentation = harder for employer to prove misconduct. Keep any emails, reviews, or anything that shows your work history was fine.

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I was in almost the exact same boat eight months ago - fired after 3 years, told it was performance, no warnings on file. When I filed my California EDD claim it went into adjudication because my employer contested it. That was genuinely stressful but I eventually got approved after about 5 weeks. One thing that really helped me was actually getting through to an EDD agent to check on my adjudication status and ask questions. I tried calling for like two weeks straight and couldn't get anyone. A friend told me about Claimyr (claimyr.com) - there's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - basically it helps you get through to a live EDD agent without sitting on hold forever. Used it once and got someone on the line within an hour. Was able to ask about my case and it genuinely calmed my nerves a lot.

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Wait so your employer actually fought it and you still won? That gives me a lot of hope. And thanks for the tip about Claimyr, I'll look into that if my claim gets stuck.

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Yep they contested and I still got approved. Just make sure you document everything - the lack of warnings, your good review, any communications. And yeah Claimyr was honestly a lifesaver when I needed actual answers from EDD.

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ive heard of claimyr before. does it actually work? i spent 3 days trying to get through to edd last month and gave up

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It worked for me. I was skeptical too but I was desperate at that point. Got through and the agent actually explained exactly where my claim stood in adjudication.

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Important clarification here because there's some nuance people miss: California uses a specific legal definition of 'misconduct' that is actually pretty high bar for employers to meet. Under California Unemployment Insurance Code, misconduct generally requires showing the claimant willfully or wantonly disregarded the employer's interests. Things like making honest mistakes, having performance that didn't meet expectations, or having disagreements with management typically do NOT rise to the level of disqualifying misconduct. So the fact that your termination was framed as performance-related is actually meaningful - that framing works more in your favor than against you.

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wait so there's actually a legal definition? i always thought fired just meant fired and you were out of luck

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Yeah most people don't realize this. The EDD adjudication process exists specifically to examine these situations. They're not just taking the employer's word for it.

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This is exactly what I needed to understand. The legal threshold thing makes sense - they were definitely framing it as 'you weren't meeting expectations' not 'you did something terrible.

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ok but what if the employer LIES during the adjudication process?? my sister got fired and her boss straight up made stuff up during the EDD investigation and she got denied. It happens more than people think and the whole system feels rigged toward employers sometimes

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If you disagree with an EDD determination you absolutely have the right to appeal. Your sister should have filed an appeal with the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB) within 30 days of her denial notice. The appeals process gives you a hearing in front of an administrative law judge where you can present your evidence directly.

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she did appeal actually and it took like 4 months but she ended up winning at the hearing. so the process works but wow is it slow and stressful

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Good to know appeals are an option if it comes to that. Hopefully I won't need to go that route but I'll keep it in mind.

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filing right after being fired is the right move, don't wait around. there's already a waiting week built into California EDD where you don't get paid, so every day you delay just pushes back when your money starts. i waited two weeks thinking i'd find something quick and regretted it

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I already filed the day after I was let go so that's good. Didn't know about the waiting week thing though.

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yep there's a one week waiting period before benefits kick in. you still have to certify for that week, it's just unpaid. so definitely good you filed right away.

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this is true. filing fast matters a lot, good advice

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I work in HR (not at your company obviously lol) and I can tell you from the employer side: 'performance issues' as a termination reason is genuinely difficult to prove as misconduct in California UI cases. HR departments know this. If they didn't document progressive discipline - verbal warning, written warning, performance improvement plan - EDD tends to side with the claimant. The burden is really on the employer to show misconduct with documentation.

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This is incredibly useful context. I literally never received any written warnings or was put on a PIP. Would it help to mention that specifically when I respond to EDD?

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Absolutely mention it explicitly. Tell them you received no written warnings, were never placed on a performance improvement plan, and reference your last performance review being satisfactory. Specific facts matter more than general statements.

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This is solid HR perspective. The PIP thing especially - no PIP basically signals the employer didn't follow their own disciplinary process.

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does it matter what industry you were in? i feel like some jobs have different rules or something idk

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The California unemployment misconduct standard applies across industries. The type of job doesn't change whether you qualify - what matters is the reason for separation and whether it meets the legal definition of misconduct. There are some nuances for things like union employees with specific contracts but the basic eligibility rules are the same.

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ok good to know i was just wondering

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you're ready to file your weekly certifications every two weeks (California EDD uses a biweekly certification schedule). Even while your claim is in adjudication you should be certifying, because if you get approved they can pay you back for those weeks. If you forget to certify you could lose those payments entirely.

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Wait, I need to certify even before I'm approved? I had no idea. How do I do that?

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Yes! Log into UI Online and certify for each two-week period. You'll answer questions about your job search activities and whether you worked or earned any money. Don't skip weeks even if your claim status shows pending or adjudication.

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this tripped me up so bad my first time. i waited until i was approved to certify and lost like 3 weeks of benefits. don't make my mistake

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Oh no I'm so glad you said this. Logging in to certify right now.

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I got fired too and I was so scared to even file. Felt embarrassing somehow? Like I didn't want to admit I got fired. But my friend pushed me to do it and I'm glad - I got approved without any issues. The EDD process wasn't as scary as I built it up to be in my head.

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Honestly this is how I feel too. Like there's some stigma around it. But I need the help so I'm pushing through that feeling.

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Totally understandable. You paid into this system while you were working. You deserve to use it when you need it.

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ALSO if your employer tries to tell you that you can't get unemployment because you signed some kind of agreement when you were hired - that is NOT true. Employers cannot contractually waive your right to UI benefits in California. I see people get confused about this a lot.

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Correct. UI benefits are a statutory right in California. No private employment contract can override the California Unemployment Insurance Code. Your eligibility is determined by EDD based on the law, not by what your employer says.

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my old employer literally told me this when i got laid off that i couldnt collect. had to find out myself they were wrong

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what happens after you file? like what's the actual process step by step? i'm about to file for the first time too

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After you file your initial claim through UI Online: 1) EDD sends notices to you and your employer about the claim 2) You receive a Notice of Unemployment Insurance Claim Filed 3) Your employer has 10 days to respond if they want to contest 4) If contested, your claim goes into adjudication where an EDD interviewer reviews both sides 5) EDD issues a Notice of Determination with their decision 6) If approved, benefits are paid going back to your filing date minus the waiting week. Throughout this whole time you should be certifying every two weeks.

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thank you this is exactly what i needed, i had no idea what to expect

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Saving this breakdown, very helpful for me too.

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the adjudication wait times right now are pretty rough from what i've seen on here. some people waiting 6-8 weeks. if your claim gets stuck in adjudication and you need answers I've seen people mention Claimyr as a way to actually get through to EDD. I tried calling EDD myself and spent 3 hours across two days just getting busy signals and disconnects. ended up using claimyr.com and got a real person who could see exactly where my claim was. way less stressful than the phone lottery

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6-8 weeks?? that's terrifying. I don't have that kind of savings cushion

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I know it's rough. The Claimyr thing helped me feel less helpless because I actually got to talk to someone and understand what was happening vs just staring at a pending status screen

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How long did adjudication take for you specifically?

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mine took about 5 weeks. felt like forever but it did get resolved. just stay on top of certifying and respond to any EDD requests immediately - delays in your response add time to the process

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responding to edd fast is SO important cannot stress this enough. i missed a deadline to respond to an interview request once and my claim got denied for non-response. had to appeal the whole thing. if you get ANY mail or notice from edd treat it like an emergency and respond same day if possible

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Noted. I have mail forwarding set up and the UI Online app notifications on. Hopefully I won't miss anything.

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also check your UI Online messages section not just your physical mail. edd sometimes sends things electronically only depending on your notification settings

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Something worth knowing: California EDD adjudication interviewers are generally pretty fair but the phone interview (if they schedule one) can feel intimidating. A few tips: stick to facts not emotions, answer the question asked without volunteering extra information, and have a clear simple narrative ready - 'I was terminated on X date, I had received no prior warnings, my most recent review was satisfactory.' Short and factual tends to work better than long explanations.

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This is practical advice I really appreciate. I tend to over-explain when I'm nervous so I'll practice keeping it concise.

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Totally normal to want to explain everything. But in these interviews less is often more. Let the facts speak for themselves.

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I wish I had this advice before my interview lol I rambled so much

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random question but do you have to do job search activities even when your claim is in adjudication? like before you know if you're even approved?

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Yes. California EDD requires you to be actively seeking work as a condition of eligibility. You should be conducting and documenting at least three job search activities per week during your claim. Keep a log with dates, employer names, positions applied for, and contact information. EDD can ask for this documentation at any time.

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three per week? i had no idea it was that specific

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You should also register with CalJOBS (the California job seeker platform) which is a requirement for most UI claimants. If you haven't done that yet, do it soon.

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I actually didn't know about CalJOBS either. Going to register today.

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my brother in law got fired for 'attendance issues' and still got approved. he'd had a documented medical situation affecting his attendance and EDD considered that context. so even if the reason sounds bad on the surface it doesn't automatically mean denied

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Good example. EDD does look at context and circumstances. There's a difference between willful disregard of company policy and situations with legitimate explanations. The adjudication process is meant to capture exactly that nuance.

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That's reassuring. My situation feels pretty clear cut compared to that but it's good to know they look at context.

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One more heads up - if your former employer challenges your claim and you end up needing to appeal a denial, you can request a hearing before the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board. You can represent yourself or get free assistance from a legal aid organization. Some California counties have worker centers or legal aid clinics that specifically help with UI appeals. Just putting this out there in case things don't go smoothly.

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I'm writing all of this down. Really hoping I don't need to appeal but it's good to know the safety net exists.

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CUIAB hearings are actually way more claimant-friendly than people expect. the ALJ asks questions and it's more of an actual conversation than a scary courtroom thing. my sister's experience was much better than she expected

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honestly the worst part of all this is just not knowing whats happening with your claim. the UI Online status page is so vague. 'pending' or 'adjudication' with zero explanation of what that actually means or when it'll change. i sat in adjudication for 7 weeks and the only way i found out what was actually happening was when i finally got through to an edd rep. tried calling on my own for weeks and couldn't get through until I used Claimyr - claimyr.com has a video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 showing how it works. not exaggerating when I say talking to that agent changed everything because she could actually see notes on my case and tell me what was needed to move it forward

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Seven weeks is a long time. I'm bookmarking that Claimyr link for sure. The uncertainty is already killing me and it's only been a few days.

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Yeah the not-knowing is genuinely the hardest part psychologically. Once I had actual information from the agent I felt so much better even though nothing had been decided yet.

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the UI Online status descriptions are honestly useless lol. 'your claim is being processed' ok great that tells me nothing

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this is real talk. i would refresh the page 10 times a day looking for any change. getting actual info from a human was the only thing that helped

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late to this thread but just want to say - OP you have a really strong case based on what you described. no written warnings + decent review + employer using vague 'performance' language = you should be fine. just respond to everything EDD sends you promptly and document your job search and you're doing everything right

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Thank you, this whole thread has been so helpful. I feel genuinely better than I did when I posted this. Will update when I hear back from EDD.

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Please do update! These threads are helpful for the next person searching the same question.

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rooting for you OP, you got this

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