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Do companies pay unemployment or does it come out of my own money with California EDD?

So I just filed my first unemployment claim with California EDD last week and honestly I've been confused about something super basic that nobody really explained to me. Do companies pay unemployment benefits or does the money somehow come from what I personally contributed? My coworker told me that employers pay into some kind of fund and that's where the benefits come from, but another person said it comes out of taxes workers pay. I have no idea which is true and it's making me anxious because I want to understand where my UI payments are actually coming from. I also want to know if my old employer can actually fight my claim or deny it somehow. Does anyone actually understand how the California EDD unemployment funding system works? I feel like this is something I should have known before filing but nobody ever explains it.

Your coworker is right! Employers pay into the unemployment system, not workers. In California, employers pay into the State Disability Insurance and UI fund through payroll taxes. Workers don't contribute to regular unemployment benefits at all - that's entirely on the employer side. The California EDD collects these taxes from businesses based on their payroll size and history of former employees filing claims. So yes, your old company is essentially funding the pool that your benefits come from, but you personally didn't pay into regular UI.

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Wait so my employer actually pays MORE if a lot of their employees file claims? That's kind of wild. Does that mean they have a reason to fight my claim to keep their tax rate down?

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Exactly right. It's called an experience rating system. Employers with more former employees collecting UI benefits get assigned a higher tax rate. So yes, they do have a financial incentive to contest claims, which is why some companies will protest your claim if they think they can argue you were fired for cause or quit voluntarily.

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This happened to me. My old employer fought my claim saying I quit when they actually laid me off. California EDD did an investigation and sided with me but it took like 6 weeks of adjudication before I got paid anything.

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To answer your question more directly - in California the UI tax system works like this: employers pay Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) and State Unemployment Insurance (SUI) taxes. The state rate varies per employer based on their claims history. New employers start at a standard rate. None of this comes out of your paycheck. The SDI (State Disability Insurance) line you might see on your paystub is separate - that's worker-funded and covers disability/paid leave, not regular unemployment.

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Oh! So the SDI deduction I see on my check is different from unemployment? I always thought that was the same thing. So if I file for regular unemployment I'm drawing from the employer-funded pool, not my SDI contributions?

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Correct. SDI = State Disability Insurance, funded by employees, covers disability and Paid Family Leave. UI = Unemployment Insurance, funded by employers, covers job loss. Two totally separate programs under California EDD. Don't mix them up when you call or they'll route you wrong.

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ugh I mixed these up when I first called EDD and wasted like 45 mins being transferred around lol

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Since you mentioned you just filed - one thing worth knowing is that your former employer will receive a notice from California EDD asking them to confirm the reason for your separation. If they respond saying you were fired for misconduct or that you quit, your claim goes into adjudication while EDD investigates. This is super common and can delay your payments by weeks. If that happens and you can't get anyone on the phone to check your claim status, I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual EDD agent when I couldn't get through on my own. There's a demo video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - honestly saved me during my claim when I needed answers about my adjudication status.

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How long does the employer response period usually take? And is there any way to check if my employer has responded yet through my UI Online account?

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Employers typically have about 10 days to respond to EDD's notice. You won't see their actual response in UI Online but you'll see if your claim moves into adjudication status, which signals they disputed something or EDD needs to verify information. If it does go to adjudication, that's when you really want to be able to reach a live agent.

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I never knew employers had a deadline to respond. My claim sat for 5 weeks and nobody told me anything. The whole system is designed for you to just give up and stop asking questions if you ask me.

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ok so i had this same question when i got laid off lol. short answer is ur employer pays, you dont. the money comes from taxes ur company paid. but here's what people dont tell you - if your employer FIGHTS your claim (they call it protesting) then your payments get frozen while edd investigates. happened to my friend and she went like 2 months with nothing coming in

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Two months with no payments?? How did she survive that? Did she eventually get backpay for those weeks?

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yes she got all the back weeks paid at once when edd finally decided in her favor. but those 2 months were brutal. she said she was on the phone for hours every day trying to get through to someone at edd and could barely reach anyone

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Backpay getting released all at once is actually kind of a silver lining I guess but yeah the waiting is awful. I had a similar situation and the not-knowing is the worst part

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Adding some important nuance here since there's a lot of good info but a few things worth clarifying. The employer tax rate in California ranges roughly from 1.5% to 6.2% of taxable wages per employee depending on their claims history (this is called the UI contribution rate). Employers with no claims history or very few claims pay less. Employers who've had many former workers collect UI pay more. This is specifically why employers sometimes contest claims - every successful UI claim incrementally increases their rate at renewal. However, California EDD has a pretty thorough process for investigating disputed claims, and simply contesting a claim doesn't mean the employer automatically wins.

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So if my separation was a legitimate layoff due to budget cuts, would my employer still have reason to fight it?

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A true layoff (reduction in force, budget cuts, position elimination) generally would not give the employer strong grounds to contest. Those are legitimate qualifying reasons for UI. Where employers typically fight back is if they claim you were terminated for misconduct or that you voluntarily resigned. Layoffs are generally undisputed.

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This is the most useful explanation in this whole thread honestly. My employer tried to contest my claim calling it 'voluntary separation' when the reality was they made my conditions so bad I had no choice but to leave. That's called constructive discharge and EDD does recognize it but you have to argue your case.

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Something nobody mentioned yet - even though employers fund the unemployment pool, California EDD is the one making ALL the decisions about your claim. Your employer can submit their side of the story but they don't get a vote in whether you're approved or denied. EDD does its own investigation. I know people who were scared to file because they thought their former employer would just block it, but that's not how it works. Employer protests just trigger a review process.

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This is really reassuring actually. I was a little worried that my old company could just say no and that would be the end of it.

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Nope, your former employer has no veto power. EDD is an independent state agency and they make the final call. The employer gets to present evidence and their account of events, but so do you, and EDD weighs both sides.

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Been through this exact process. EDD interviewed me over the phone for like 20 minutes asking about why I left and what happened. Then interviewed the employer separately. Then made a decision. Very fair process in my experience even though it's slow

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I went through a situation where my employer initially protested my claim and I want to share what I learned. First, if your claim goes to adjudication because of an employer protest, keep filing your weekly certifications every week without missing them even though you're not getting paid yet. If EDD decides in your favor, you'll get paid for all those certified weeks as backpay. Second, document EVERYTHING about your separation - emails, texts, HR communications, anything that shows what really happened. Third - and this was huge for me - I had to actually speak to a California EDD representative to understand what evidence they needed from me. Getting through on the phone was nearly impossible until someone in a forum like this mentioned Claimyr. I used claimyr.com and finally got connected to a real EDD agent who told me exactly what documentation to submit. Seriously made a difference in my case.

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The part about continuing to file weekly certifications even during adjudication is gold. I had no idea I needed to keep doing that. I actually almost stopped filing because I thought what's the point if they're not paying me.

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Do NOT stop filing. That is one of the most common mistakes people make during adjudication. If you stop certifying and then EDD approves your claim, you only get backpay for the weeks you actually certified. Any weeks you skipped are gone.

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Seconding this so hard. I learned this the hard way. Missed 3 weeks of certifications during my adjudication because nobody told me to keep filing and lost those weeks permanently even after my claim was approved. Keep filing no matter what.

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here's what nobody tells you about the whole employer pays unemployment thing - companies have gotten really good at classifying people in ways that affect their UI eligibility. independent contractor vs employee is the big one. if your old company classified you as a 1099 contractor you can't collect regular UI because your employer wasn't paying into the UI system for you. been seeing this more and more especially in tech and gig work

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I was a W-2 employee thankfully. But good to know for others. Can misclassified workers do anything about it?

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Yes actually! California has pretty strong worker classification laws (AB5). If you believe you were misclassified as a contractor when you should have been an employee, you can file a complaint with the Labor Commissioner AND potentially still claim UI if EDD determines you were actually an employee for their purposes. It's a complicated process but some people have successfully gotten benefits this way.

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This is correct and worth emphasizing. California EDD has its own test for employment classification (the ABC test) that's actually more protective of workers than federal standards. Being classified as 1099 by your employer doesn't automatically mean EDD agrees with that classification.

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quick question to add to this thread - does anyone know if your employer can see your weekly certifications or the amount you're getting paid in UI? asking because my boss at my new part-time job seems weirdly interested in whether I'm still collecting and idk if they have access to that info

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No, your current or former employers cannot see your weekly certifications or benefit amounts. That's private information between you and California EDD. Your former employer only gets notified if you file a claim (so they can respond to it) and later if a determination is made. They don't get ongoing access to your claim details.

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huge relief thank you. was getting kind of paranoid about it

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Your new employer does have to report wages they pay you though, which affects your UI benefit calculation if you're doing partial unemployment. So EDD knows about your part-time income through wage reporting but your employer doesn't see your UI details.

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Not to hijack this thread but your question about do companies pay unemployment actually made me realize I never understood my own situation. I was self-employed for 3 years before going back to W-2 work and then got laid off 8 months later. I always wondered if my short W-2 history was enough to qualify. Turns out EDD looks at your base period earnings and I had just enough from those 8 months to qualify. The point being - EDD calculates your benefit amount based on wages your employer reported paying you, which also connects back to why employers have to pay UI taxes on those wages in the first place.

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How does EDD determine your weekly benefit amount? Is it a percentage of your old salary?

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Roughly 60-70% of your average weekly wages during a specific base period, capped at a maximum weekly benefit amount. The exact formula is on the EDD website. For 2025 the max is around $450/week I believe though you should verify that on edd.ca.gov

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The max is actually higher now - California raised it. Check edd.ca.gov/unemployment/calculate-your-benefits.htm for the current calculator. I think it's closer to $450-$1,300 range depending on your prior wages but the website will give you the accurate current figures.

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Nobody warned me before I filed that the process would involve so much waiting. I filed my initial claim, waited for my employer to respond, went into adjudication, waited more, got scheduled for a phone interview, waited to be called, and then waited for the determination. The whole thing took almost 7 weeks from filing to first payment. Just want to set expectations for OP since it sounds like you just filed.

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Seven weeks is really discouraging to hear. Did you have anything to live on in the meantime?

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It was genuinely rough. I ended up borrowing from family. The thing that helped most eventually was actually being able to talk to an EDD agent directly to understand where my claim stood. I'd been calling for weeks with no luck until I tried Claimyr - got through to a real human at EDD within a reasonable wait which was a completely different experience than dialing the main number and getting disconnected or busy signals. Their site is claimyr.com if you end up needing it.

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I'm bookmarking that. I have a feeling I'm going to need every tool available if this process takes that long.

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Also worth knowing - if you have savings, continue living as normal as possible and preserve that cash. Don't assume the claim will resolve quickly. The 7-week timeline is actually pretty typical when there's any kind of complication.

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To anyone reading this who's worried about employer protests - I want to share a positive outcome. My former employer protested my claim claiming I was fired for attendance issues (I had FMLA-protected absences that they apparently didn't track correctly). I gathered my FMLA paperwork, doctor notes, and the HR email chain showing they knew about my protected leave. Submitted it all to EDD, did a phone interview, and California EDD found in my favor. Got all my backpay at once including the 5 weeks I waited during adjudication. The system does work even if it's slow and frustrating.

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Did you have to submit documentation through UI Online or mail it or what?

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There's an upload option in UI Online now for submitting documents related to your claim. You can also mail or fax but the online upload is way faster. Make sure you keep copies of everything you submit and write down the date you submitted it.

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Also take screenshots of your UI Online status before and after you submit documents. I've heard of cases where EDD claimed they didn't receive something that was definitely submitted. Having timestamps helps.

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One more thing about the employer funding question since I work in HR (former claimant now on the other side) - most employers especially small businesses genuinely don't protest most claims because it requires time and paperwork they don't want to deal with. The protests you mostly see come from larger companies with dedicated HR/legal teams who monitor claims as part of cost management. If you worked for a smaller company your chances of a protest are honestly lower.

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That's actually good to hear. I worked for a small company, like 15 people. So maybe they won't bother fighting it.

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Very possible. Small employers sometimes don't even respond to EDD's notice within the deadline, in which case EDD typically proceeds with approving the claim based on the claimant's account. I've seen that happen more than you'd think.

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my company had like 8 people and they 100% did not protest my claim at all. was approved in like 2 weeks. small company things

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does anyone know if theres a way to see if ur employer has contested your claim or if it like notifies you somehow?? ive been checking ui online every day and it still just says pending

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If your claim moves into adjudication it will show as 'pending' or sometimes you'll see a notice in your UI Online inbox asking you to call EDD or schedule a phone interview. You won't see the employer's specific response but the change in your claim status is the signal. If it's been more than 3 weeks with no change and you're not receiving payments, it's worth trying to contact EDD directly.

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its been 3 weeks exactly so i guess i should try calling

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Given how hard it is to get through to EDD by phone, definitely try Claimyr (claimyr.com) - check out their video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 to see how it works. The regular EDD phone line is brutal for actually reaching a live person, especially when your claim is in any kind of pending status and you need real answers.

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ok just watched that video might try it tomorrow morning if i cant get through the normal way

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Slightly off topic but your question made me think - do employers pay more into UI if they pay higher wages? Like does a company with highly paid employees fund more of the system than a company with lower paid workers? Always wondered how that math works

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Yes, the UI tax is calculated as a percentage of taxable wages per employee up to a wage cap (called the taxable wage base). In California the taxable wage base for UI purposes is currently $7,000 per employee per year. So employers pay their UI tax rate on the first $7,000 of each employee's annual wages. After $7k in wages, that employee's wages aren't subject to additional UI tax for that year. It's capped so higher earners don't result in proportionally higher UI taxes per person.

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That's lower than I expected. $7k taxable wage base seems like it was set a long time ago and never updated.

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You're right, it hasn't been updated frequently and there have been ongoing discussions in California about raising the taxable wage base to better fund the UI system. The federal FUTA taxable wage base is only $7k too, both are considered outdated by most economists who study unemployment insurance funding.

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Coming back to basics for OP since this thread went in some interesting directions - to directly answer your original question: Yes, employers pay for unemployment. Your weekly UI payments from California EDD come from a fund that your former employer contributed to through payroll taxes. You personally paid nothing into this fund (the SDI deduction on your check is separate). You earned this benefit by working for a company that paid into the system. There is zero reason to feel like you're taking something you don't deserve. File, certify every week, report any income honestly, and document everything about your work search activities.

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Thank you for this. Honestly I did feel a little guilty filing like I was somehow mooching. But knowing my employer funded this specifically for situations like mine makes me feel better about it.

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That guilt is incredibly common and honestly unnecessary. The UI system exists precisely for moments like yours. Your employer paid into it on your behalf for as long as you worked there. Use the benefit it's there for.

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The guilt thing is SO common in these forums. People treating UI like charity when it's literally an insurance product that was paid for by your employment. Claim what you're entitled to.

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Agreed. Nobody feels guilty using car insurance after an accident. UI is the same concept just for job loss.

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final tip from someone who's been through the california edd system twice now - save every single communication you get from them. every letter, every email, every notice. screenshot your UI online status regularly. write down dates and times of every call you make including hold times and what was said. if your claim ever goes sideways or you get an overpayment notice later, having this documentation is worth its weight in gold

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Really good advice. I've been taking screenshots but not writing down call attempts. Starting a log today.

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also note the name of every EDD rep you talk to if you can get it. some will give you a first name or ID number. having that can help if there's ever a discrepancy about what you were told

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The paper trail saved me during an overpayment dispute. I had documentation showing I reported exactly what EDD said to report. Without it I would have had no way to fight the notice.

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