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Aisha Abdullah

Does unemployment come from the employer or California EDD directly?

Okay so I just got laid off last week and I'm completely lost about how this whole thing works. I always assumed unemployment checks came directly from my old employer, like they set aside money or something. But my coworker told me that's not how it works at all and I should be applying through California EDD instead. Now I'm second-guessing everything. Does unemployment actually come from the employer or does it come from the state? And if I apply through California EDD, does my employer even get notified? I haven't filed anything yet because I wanted to understand the basics before I start. Any help would be seriously appreciated because I need money coming in soon and I don't know where to even begin.

Great question and totally understandable to be confused about this. So here's how it actually works: unemployment benefits in California come from the state through California EDD, NOT directly from your employer. Your employer doesn't cut you a check or anything like that. What actually happens is employers pay into a state unemployment insurance fund through payroll taxes throughout the year. When you file a claim, California EDD draws from that fund to pay your weekly benefits. So yes, your employer is connected to the process financially, but they're not the ones sending you money. Your benefits come straight from California EDD either by debit card (Bank of America EDD debit card) or direct deposit to your bank account. And yes, your employer does get notified when you file - they receive a notice and have a chance to contest your claim if they believe you're not eligible.

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Oh wow okay so my coworker was right. So I need to go to the California EDD website and file there? And what do I need to have ready when I apply?

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Exactly right. Go to edd.ca.gov and file a UI claim online. Have your Social Security number, last employer's info including their address and phone, your dates of employment, and your reason for separation ready. The whole online application takes maybe 45 minutes if you have everything handy.

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also make sure you know your gross wages from the last 18 months if you can, they use that to calculate your benefit amount

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Yeah the employer funding piece trips up a lot of people. Technically your employer paid unemployment insurance taxes specifically so that their employees could collect benefits if laid off. It's basically insurance the employer buys for you through mandatory payroll taxes. So in a roundabout way it DOES come from your employer, just not directly. California EDD acts as the middleman holding and distributing those funds. The state sets the benefit amounts and handles all the eligibility determinations.

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That actually makes a lot of sense when you explain it that way. So my employer can't refuse to let me collect unemployment?

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They can contest your claim if they think you don't qualify - like if they claim you quit voluntarily or were fired for misconduct. But if you were genuinely laid off, their ability to block your benefits is very limited. California EDD makes the final eligibility call, not your employer.

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my old boss tried to fight my claim saying i quit but edd sided with me because i had texts showing i was laid off, so document everything just in case

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One thing I'd add - file your claim ASAP. There's no reason to wait. California EDD has a one-week unpaid waiting period built in already, so every day you delay is money you're not getting back. The online portal at UI Online on the edd.ca.gov site is the fastest way to file. If you have issues getting through to an actual EDD rep to ask questions during the process, I actually used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) when I was confused about my claim status. They basically get you connected to a live California EDD agent without sitting on hold forever. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - saved me a ton of time when I had questions about my benefit amount calculation.

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I didn't realize there was a waiting week. So I lose that first week no matter what?

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Unfortunately yes, the first week is always the unpaid waiting period in California. It's just how the program works. But that's another reason to file immediately so your waiting week happens now rather than after more delay.

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the waiting period thing is so annoying honestly, especially when you're already stressed about money

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Does Claimyr work if you havent filed yet or only after? Asking bc I'm in a similar situation trying to figure out my first claim

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WAIT. I was confused about this same exact thing when i first got laid off and made the mistake of thinking my employer would just send me something in the mail. I waited almost 2 weeks for something that was never coming lol. Don't make my mistake - go file with California EDD right now today. The longer you wait the longer it takes to get that first payment.

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Oh no that's exactly what I was about to do, just wait for something from my employer. Thank you for saying this!

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Yeah i thought HR would mail me paperwork or something. Nope. You have to initiate everything yourself through California EDD. HR might give you a pamphlet about filing but that's usually it.

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Something important to understand about the employer tax piece - in California employers pay both FUTA (federal unemployment tax) and SUI (state unemployment insurance) taxes based on their payroll. New employers pay a higher rate and it can go down over time based on how many claims their former employees file. This is why some employers try to contest claims - too many successful claims against them raises their tax rate. But that's their problem, not yours. You earned this benefit through your employment, your employer funded it, and you're entitled to it if you meet eligibility requirements.

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Interesting, so employers actually have a financial incentive to fight claims even if the person was legitimately laid off?

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Exactly. It's called experience rating - their tax rate goes up if lots of claims are filed against them. Some employers, especially smaller ones, contest almost every claim for this reason. Just be ready to provide documentation of your layoff if needed.

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This is why I always say save everything - emails, texts, any written communication about your separation. If your employer contests and you have documentation California EDD almost always sides with the claimant.

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had no idea about the experience rating thing, that explains so much about why my old company fought my claim so hard

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not to overwhelm you but after you file the initial claim you also have to do weekly certifications every week to keep getting paid. It's not a one-time thing. You log into UI Online and certify that you were able and available to work, looked for work, and report any wages you earned that week. If you miss a week of certifications you don't get paid for that week and it can cause headaches with your claim.

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Oh I had no idea about weekly certifications. How many jobs do I need to apply to each week?

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California requires you to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep a log of them. EDD can audit your job search records so actually track them - employer name, position, date, how you applied, contact info.

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Good advice. The job search requirement is 3 contacts per week in California. Keep a detailed log in a spreadsheet or even just a notebook. You probably won't get audited but if you do you'll be glad you documented everything.

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Can I ask a related question? My employer told me I was being laid off but they're calling it a 'furlough' - does that change anything with California EDD? Still comes from EDD either way right?

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Yes California EDD handles furloughs too. A temporary furlough is treated similarly to a layoff for unemployment purposes as long as your hours were reduced to zero or significantly reduced. File with California EDD and indicate you were furloughed - they'll determine eligibility based on the specific circumstances.

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Ok good because my employer was acting like I couldn't collect during a furlough and that didn't sound right to me

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Your employer is wrong. You can absolutely collect California unemployment during a furlough. Employers sometimes say things like that either because they don't know the rules or because they're trying to discourage claims to protect their experience rating. File your claim.

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yeah employers say all kinds of wrong stuff about unemployment. Always go straight to California EDD for the real answer, not your employer.

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To circle back to the original question with a complete answer: unemployment benefits flow like this in California. 1) Your employer pays mandatory UI taxes to California EDD throughout your employment. 2) You get laid off and file a UI claim with California EDD online. 3) California EDD reviews your claim, determines eligibility, sets your weekly benefit amount based on your past wages. 4) California EDD sends you a Bank of America debit card or direct deposit. Your employer is the ultimate source of funding but has zero involvement in actually paying you. They just get notified and have a window to contest.

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This is the clearest breakdown I've seen. Thank you. I'm going to go file right now.

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Good luck! The online filing process is pretty straightforward. If you get stuck or have questions after filing and need to reach a live EDD agent, remember that service I mentioned - claimyr.com - was genuinely helpful when I couldn't get through on the phone. Sometimes you just need to talk to an actual person at California EDD.

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one thing nobody mentioned - when you file they ask about your last 18 months of employment not just your most recent job. If you worked anywhere else in the last year and a half make sure you include all of it because it can affect your weekly benefit amount calculation. More wages reported can mean higher benefits.

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Wait so I list every job for the past 18 months? Even part time stuff?

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Yes include everything. California EDD looks at your base period wages to calculate your benefit amount. More total wages generally means a higher weekly benefit up to the maximum which is around $450 per week currently.

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The base period is actually the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. So it's not exactly 18 months, it's a specific 12-month window. California EDD also has an alternate base period if you don't qualify under the standard one.

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Just want to say thank you for this thread, I literally had the same exact question and was too embarrassed to ask. Was also sitting here waiting for something to show up from my HR department lol. Filing right now after reading this.

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Ha, glad I'm not alone in being confused about this! Good luck with your claim!

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This is such a common misconception. The unemployment system isn't intuitive at all and nobody really explains how it works when you start a job. Good luck to both of you filing.

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Also worth knowing - if your claim goes into adjudication (which means California EDD needs more info before approving) don't freak out. It doesn't mean you're denied. It usually means there's something they need to verify, often related to why you left your job. Just respond to any notices quickly and honestly.

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What does adjudication actually mean? Is that like an appeal?

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No adjudication is different from an appeal. Adjudication happens before a decision is made - EDD is just investigating your eligibility. An appeal happens after they've denied you and you want to fight the denial. Adjudication is basically a review period where your claim is on hold while they gather information.

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I went through adjudication and it took almost 3 weeks but I was approved in the end. Just be patient and check your UI Online account for any action items or notices they need you to respond to.

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During adjudication keep filing your weekly certifications on schedule even if you're not getting paid yet. If you're approved they'll pay all the weeks you certified for. If you stop certifying you lose those weeks.

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THE PHONE SITUATION WITH EDD IS A NIGHTMARE just want to prepare OP for that. If you ever need to actually talk to someone at California EDD you will be on hold forever or get disconnected. I've spent entire days just trying to reach a rep. It's honestly one of the most frustrating government systems to navigate.

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That sounds really stressful. Are there any tricks to getting through?

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Honestly I tried every trick - calling right at 8am, calling on Tuesdays, calling on Fridays, all the supposed tips. Hit or miss at best. I eventually used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and that actually worked. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 showing the process. Got me connected to an actual California EDD agent within a reasonable time when I had an issue with my claim. Way less frustrating than the traditional hold line.

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seconding this, the edd phone situation is genuinely awful. i once waited on hold for 4 hours and then got disconnected

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For your benefit amount calculation - California uses a base period formula. They look at the quarter in your base period where you earned the most money and typically your weekly benefit is about 60-70% of your previous weekly wage up to the state maximum. The maximum weekly benefit amount in California is currently $450. If you were making good money you might hit that cap. If you were part time you might get significantly less. You can estimate your amount on the California EDD website before you even file.

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Is there a calculator on the EDD website? I want to get an idea of what to expect.

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Yes on the edd.ca.gov site there's a UI benefit calculator. It gives you an estimate based on your wages. It's not exact but gives you a ballpark. The official calculation happens when EDD processes your actual claim.

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Keep in mind the estimate might differ from your actual award amount depending on how California EDD calculates your base period wages. The online estimator is a good starting point though.

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Something I want to clarify because I've seen misinformation about this - you do NOT have to be fired to collect unemployment. The most common reason is a layoff, which is what OP has. But there are other qualifying situations too. Quitting for a 'good cause' attributable to the employer (like unsafe working conditions, significant pay cuts, harassment) can also qualify. The key disqualifying factors are: quitting without good cause, or being fired for serious misconduct. Just being laid off is a clean path to eligibility assuming you meet the wage/hours worked thresholds.

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What counts as misconduct exactly? I'm asking for a friend who got terminated.

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Misconduct in California unemployment law generally means a deliberate or substantial disregard of employer's interests - things like repeated policy violations after warnings, theft, violence at work. Incompetence or simple mistakes usually don't rise to the level of disqualifying misconduct. Tell your friend to file and let California EDD make the determination - don't assume they can't collect.

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Yeah this is important - 'fired for cause' doesn't automatically mean disqualified. California EDD has a specific legal definition of misconduct and a lot of employers use that phrase loosely. Always file and let EDD decide.

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OP update us when you file and let us know how it goes! The process is much less scary once you actually start it. The online UI application at edd.ca.gov is pretty user-friendly and walks you through each step. If you get confused at any point don't hesitate to try calling California EDD, and if you can't get through remember that Claimyr option I mentioned earlier - it's specifically useful for situations where you need a live agent to answer questions about your specific claim situation.

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I actually went and filed right after reading the first few comments! It asked me a bunch of questions about my separation and wages. Now it says my claim is being processed. How long until I hear something?

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Typically California EDD takes 3-5 weeks for an initial determination on a straightforward layoff claim. Make sure you start filing your weekly certifications right away even while waiting - you can certify starting the Saturday after your first week of unemployment.

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Great that you filed already! Watch your mail for a notice from EDD with your claim details and the debit card. Also check your UI Online account regularly for any notices or action items they need from you.

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random tip - set calendar reminders for your weekly certification days. California EDD opens certifications on Sunday and you have until Saturday to submit for that week. If you miss the window you have to call in and request to file a late cert which is a whole headache. Just make it a weekly habit on Sundays.

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This is super practical advice, adding a calendar reminder right now. Thank you!

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Also screenshot or print your certification confirmation number every time. If something goes wrong with your payment you'll want proof that you certified on time.

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Yes to this!! I missed a certification once and it took me forever to get it sorted with EDD. Not worth the stress, just do it every Sunday.

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Does anyone know if working part time while on unemployment disqualifies you completely? Like if I pick up some gig work while job searching?

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No, part time work does not automatically disqualify you in California. You report those wages during your weekly certification and EDD adjusts your benefit payment for that week. They use an earnings disregard formula - you keep the first 25% of your weekly benefit amount plus $25 without any deduction, and amounts above that reduce your benefit dollar for dollar. So part time work can actually make sense financially while collecting UI.

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The key is you MUST report all earnings honestly during your weekly cert, including gig work, cash jobs, etc. Failing to report wages is fraud and California EDD does audit this. The penalties are severe including repayment with penalties and possible criminal charges for large amounts.

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Thanks for clarifying - I just want to make sure I'm doing everything by the book. So report all income even small amounts?

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Yes every single dollar. Better to over-report than under-report. California EDD will calculate the adjustment and usually you'll still receive a partial benefit even in weeks you worked.

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I want to revisit the employer contesting thing because I don't think people understand how stressful that process can be. When your employer contests your claim it goes into fact-finding and California EDD contacts both you and the employer for statements. Be very specific and factual in your response. Don't exaggerate or make things worse than they were. Just state the facts of the layoff clearly and provide any documentation you have. EDD interviewers are usually pretty fair but you need to actually respond to their inquiries or you lose by default.

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My employer hasn't contested yet but I'm a little worried they might. I was technically part of a group layoff - does that make it harder to contest?

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Group layoffs are actually the clearest cases for California EDD. If multiple people were laid off at once it's obviously a business decision not a performance issue. Your employer would have a hard time arguing you were fired for misconduct when they laid off a bunch of people at once.

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Agreed. Mass layoffs and reductions in force are very straightforward unemployment cases. Employer contests in those situations rarely succeed.

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This thread has been so helpful I had to comment again. I've been reading everything and I actually had a misconception corrected - I thought unemployment was like some kind of charity or government handout but learning that it's funded by employer taxes that were paid specifically for this purpose makes me feel a lot better about collecting it. It's literally insurance you earned through your employment.

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Exactly right and that's a really healthy perspective. UI is employment insurance - it's a system designed to help workers through transitions between jobs. There is absolutely no stigma in using it when you need it, especially after a layoff you didn't choose.

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I felt the same way honestly. Knowing my employer paid into this fund changes how I think about it. I'm not asking for a handout, I'm using a system that was set up specifically for situations like mine.

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Preach. The whole system exists for exactly this purpose. Use it, that's what it's there for.

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