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What reasons qualify for unemployment in California EDD?

So I just got laid off from my warehouse job last week and I'm trying to figure out if I even qualify to file. My supervisor basically told me they were 'restructuring' the department and my position was being eliminated. Does that count as a qualifying reason? I've been working there for 2 years full time. I also have a friend who quit her job because her commute went from 20 minutes to over 2 hours when the company relocated offices and she wants to know if that counts too. There's so much confusing info online about what reasons qualify for unemployment in California and I can't find a straight answer anywhere. Like does it have to be a straight up layoff or are there other situations that count?

Good news - your situation sounds like a straightforward qualifying reason. When an employer eliminates your position due to restructuring, that's considered a layoff through no fault of your own, which is exactly what California EDD looks for. You should absolutely file. As for your friend, she might actually qualify too under what's called 'good cause' for voluntarily leaving. When a company relocates and significantly increases your commute - especially something as drastic as going from 20 minutes to 2 hours - California EDD generally considers that a substantial change in working conditions. The key term she'll want to use when filing is 'voluntary quit with good cause.' She'll need to show she made reasonable efforts to address it before quitting, like asking about remote work options or a transfer.

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That's a huge relief about my situation. Do I need any kind of documentation from my employer proving it was a restructuring? They didn't give me anything in writing.

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You should request a separation notice or termination letter from HR if you haven't received one. But even without documentation, you can still file - EDD will contact your employer directly to verify the reason for separation. Just make sure your account of events is consistent and accurate when you certify.

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wait does restructuring count as a layoff for the weekly claim certifications too? like when it asks why you're no longer working do you just say laid off?

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There are actually several qualifying reasons for California unemployment benefits that people don't know about. The main categories are: 1) Laid off or position eliminated, 2) Temporary or seasonal work ended, 3) Fired but NOT for serious misconduct, 4) Quit for good cause (medical reasons, unsafe working conditions, domestic violence situations, significant changes to job duties or location), 5) Still employed but hours reduced significantly. The ones that do NOT qualify are: voluntarily quitting without good cause, being fired for proven serious misconduct, being a contractor rather than an employee (though this can get complicated), and not meeting the base period earnings requirements.

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wait so if you get fired you can still get unemployment?? I always thought getting fired automatically disqualified you

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Really common misconception. Being fired for performance issues, personality conflicts with management, or even minor policy violations often still qualifies. EDD looks at whether it rises to the level of 'misconduct' which has a specific legal definition - it generally means deliberate or willful wrongdoing, not just making mistakes or not being good enough at the job.

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This is actually really important info. I got fired last year and assumed I didn't qualify and never filed. Wish I had known this sooner.

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yeah same thing happened to my cousin, he got let go for being late too many times and thought he couldnt file. turns out chronic tardiness without warnings doesnt always count as misconduct. he got approved

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I went through this exact situation six months ago when my company did mass layoffs. Filing was straightforward once I knew I qualified but actually getting through to EDD to ask questions before I filed was a nightmare. I kept calling and either getting a busy signal or sitting on hold for 3+ hours only to get disconnected. Someone in another forum mentioned Claimyr (claimyr.com) which is a service that basically gets you connected to a live EDD agent without you having to sit on hold all day. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - I was skeptical at first but it actually worked and I was able to get my eligibility questions answered directly by an EDD rep before I even submitted my claim. Really helped me understand which qualifying reason to select on the application.

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Omg I've been trying to call EDD for two days straight and can't get through. Definitely checking out that Claimyr thing, thanks

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does it actually work? sounds almost too good to be true honestly

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I was skeptical too but yes it genuinely worked for me. Got connected to an actual EDD agent who walked me through the qualifying reasons and helped me understand what documentation I needed. Saved me so much stress.

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gonna try this tomorrow morning, been trying to reach EDD all week about whether my situation qualifies

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omg I had no idea quitting could sometimes qualify!! I left my job 3 months ago because my manager was straight up harassing me and I just assumed I couldn't get unemployment. is it too late to file now??

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Unfortunately there are strict deadlines for filing. Generally you should file as soon as possible after becoming unemployed. While technically you can file a late claim, you will likely lose benefits for the weeks you waited. I'd strongly recommend filing TODAY if you haven't already - don't wait another day. The harassment you described may qualify as constructive discharge or quitting for good cause due to workplace conditions.

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filing right now oh my god. thank you. I had no idea

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When you file make sure you describe the harassment in detail and use the term 'hostile work environment' and explain that you attempted to resolve it through HR before leaving. That documentation of effort to fix the situation before quitting is really important for good cause claims.

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What about if you're self employed and the business just isnt making money anymore? does that qualify

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Generally no - self-employed individuals don't qualify for regular California UI benefits because you haven't been paying into the state's unemployment insurance system through payroll taxes. There's no employer contributing on your behalf. However if you also had W-2 employment during your base period (the 12-18 months before you filed) that income could potentially establish eligibility. Worth filing anyway to see if you have enough qualifying wages from any traditional employment.

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dang ok. I had a part time W2 job for about 6 months while running my business. you think that would be enough?

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Possibly! California EDD looks at wages in your base period quarters. You'd need to have earned at least $1,300 in your highest earning quarter or $900 in your highest quarter plus total base period earnings of 1.25x that highest quarter amount. If your W2 job paid decently you might have enough. File and find out - worst they can say is no.

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I qualified because my employer reduced my hours from 40 to 15 per week. Just want to add this for people who don't realize you don't have to be completely unemployed to file. California has partial unemployment benefits and it makes a real difference when you're trying to make ends meet on reduced hours.

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Oh wow I didn't know that was a thing. So you're still working but getting partial benefits?

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Exactly. You still have to do weekly certifications and report your earnings each week. EDD then calculates a reduced benefit amount based on what you earned. You also still need to be looking for full time work unless you have some kind of special status.

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my company just cut everyone to 3 days a week, definitely going to look into this now

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my sister got denied because edd said she quit without good cause but she left because her boss kept changing her schedule last minute and she has two kids in daycare with fixed pickup times. does that sound like it could be appealed

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Yes that situation has strong grounds for an appeal. California courts have found that an employer making significant and repeated last-minute schedule changes that make it impossible to fulfill family care obligations can constitute good cause for leaving. She needs to file an appeal within 30 days of the denial notice - that deadline is strict and missing it means losing the right to appeal. She should gather any texts or emails showing the schedule changes, documentation of her childcare situation, and any communications where she asked her employer to accommodate a consistent schedule.

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She got the denial like 3 weeks ago, is there still time?

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Cutting it close but probably yes if she acts immediately. The 30-day clock starts from the mailing date on the Notice of Determination, not when she received it. She should file the appeal TODAY through UI Online or by faxing the appeal form to her local EDD office. Don't wait even one more day.

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Appeals are actually more successful than people think. EDD denies a lot of borderline claims initially but the appeal process gives you a chance to present your case to an actual administrative law judge who looks at it fresh.

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THIS SYSTEM IS SUCH A JOKE. I qualified under every single criteria, had all my documents, filed correctly and STILL got stuck in adjudication for 8 weeks with no explanation. How is anyone supposed to survive financially while EDD just sits on claims doing nothing?? And good luck getting anyone on the phone. I called 47 times in one week. FORTY SEVEN.

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47 times omg. I thought my 20 calls in one day was bad

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The phone situation is genuinely awful. That's why I ended up using Claimyr - after weeks of failed attempts at calling EDD directly I finally got through to an agent using their service. The adjudication delays are a separate nightmare but at least being able to actually talk to someone helped me understand what was holding my claim up.

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I've heard of Claimyr but was hesitant. Did it actually get you real answers about why your claim was in adjudication or just generic info?

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I got actual specific info about my claim - the agent told me exactly what issue had triggered the adjudication review and what I needed to do to resolve it. Way more useful than anything I got from the website. Check claimyr.com if you haven't already.

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Can someone clarify the difference between being laid off vs fired for the purposes of qualifying for unemployment? My employer is trying to make me sign a document saying I resigned but I absolutely did not resign, they told me my services were no longer needed.

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Do NOT sign that document. What you're describing is a classic employer tactic to avoid their unemployment insurance costs - if EDD believes you resigned voluntarily without good cause, your claim gets denied and their unemployment insurance account doesn't get charged. The reality is that if you were told your services were no longer needed, that is a termination/layoff regardless of what the employer calls it. You have every right to file, describe the situation accurately as being told your position was ended, and EDD will investigate. Your employer will face penalties if they lie during the investigation.

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They're telling me I have to sign it to get my final paycheck. Can they do that?

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No - in California employers are required to provide your final paycheck immediately upon termination (or within 72 hours if you gave notice). Withholding your final paycheck is illegal under California Labor Code. Contact the California Labor Commissioner's office about the paycheck issue separately from your EDD claim. File both complaints.

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Whoa this is really important info. Had no idea employers could face penalties for lying to EDD about separation reasons.

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One thing I want to add that trips a lot of people up - qualifying for unemployment isn't just about the reason you stopped working. You also have to meet the earnings requirements from your base period. I've seen people who were clearly laid off through no fault of their own but got denied because they hadn't earned enough in the qualifying quarters. Make sure you check whether your past earnings meet EDD's minimums before you count on receiving benefits.

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How do you check what your base period earnings are? I've been at my job 2 years full time so I think I should be fine but now I'm second guessing everything

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Your base period is typically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. If you were employed full time for two years you almost certainly meet the earnings requirements. EDD will calculate your weekly benefit amount based on your highest earning quarter - you can estimate it using the calculator on the EDD website before you officially file.

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what if you had a gap in employment during the base period, like you took 3 months off for personal reasons? does that mess up your eligibility?

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It can reduce your weekly benefit amount since it affects your total base period wages but it doesn't necessarily disqualify you. As long as you hit the minimum thresholds in whatever quarters you did work, you can still qualify. EDD does also have an alternate base period option that looks at more recent quarters if you don't qualify under the standard base period.

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what about if you got laid off from a temp agency job? does the temp agency count as your employer or does the company you were placed at count

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The temp agency is your employer of record for unemployment purposes since they're the ones paying your wages and the UI taxes. When you file you'll list the temp agency as your last employer. One complication with temp agency jobs is that EDD sometimes considers you to have 'refused suitable work' if you don't contact the agency for a new assignment after your placement ends - so make sure you reach out to the agency about new placements before filing, and document that you did so. That protects you from a potential denial.

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ugh ok so I need to contact the agency first even though I already know they don't have anything right now?

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Yes, document the attempt. Send an email or call and keep a record. It creates a paper trail showing you didn't just walk away from potential work through the agency. Even if they have nothing available, you've fulfilled your obligation to check in with them.

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I'm so stressed reading all of this. I filed last Tuesday and I haven't heard anything and don't know if my reason qualifies or if I made a mistake on the application or what. How long does it take to even find out if you're approved

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usually a few weeks for initial determination, sometimes longer if they need to verify stuff with your employer. try not to panic yet

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but what if I made a mistake on the application? can I fix it

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Yes you can contact EDD to make corrections before a determination is made. You can send a message through UI Online or try to reach them by phone. If you realize you made a significant error, addressing it proactively is much better than waiting for a denial and then having to appeal. Keep certifying for your weekly claims in the meantime so you don't lose those weeks if you are approved.

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ok filing the weekly claims. I just really need this to come through, my savings are basically gone

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genuine question - if you get unemployment and then find a part time job while claiming, do you have to report it? asking for a friend lol

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Yes absolutely you must report all earnings on your weekly certification. This is not optional - failing to report earnings is considered UI fraud and can result in repayment of all benefits received plus penalties up to 30% and potential criminal prosecution. California EDD cross-references wage records with employers. The good news is earning some money doesn't necessarily disqualify you for the week - EDD uses a formula where you can earn up to 25% of your weekly benefit amount without any reduction, and earnings above that reduce your benefit dollar for dollar. But you MUST report every dollar.

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ok ok noted. telling my friend

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lmao 'asking for a friend' but seriously though this is important info that people really need to know before making a huge mistake

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for people wondering about the medical reasons qualifying - if you had to leave your job to care for a sick family member does that count as good cause

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Leaving to care for a family member is actually a nuanced situation for California EDD. Simply needing to be a caregiver by itself isn't automatically considered good cause for quitting, UNLESS the employer denied a reasonable accommodation like a leave of absence or flexible schedule before you quit. California also has Paid Family Leave (PFL) which is a separate program that provides wage replacement if you need to take time off to care for a seriously ill family member while keeping your job. If you've already quit, you'd be looking at the unemployment good cause analysis. The key question EDD will ask is whether you exhausted all other options before resigning.

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what if the employer didn't offer any kind of leave at all, is that their problem or yours

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If the employer failed to offer legally required leave - California requires employers with 5+ employees to offer family care leave - that actually strengthens your good cause argument. Document that no accommodation was offered or even discussed. That context matters a lot in an appeal.

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UPDATE: I didn't sign the paper and filed my claim describing exactly what happened - told my services were no longer needed. EDD contacted my employer, employer tried to say I resigned, EDD found in my favor after an interview and I was approved. For anyone in a similar situation STAND YOUR GROUND.

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This is so good to hear!! Gives me hope for my own claim

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Great outcome. EDD investigators are actually pretty good at sniffing out employer misrepresentation in these situations. They've seen every trick in the book.

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Love this update. The system is broken in a lot of ways but glad it worked for you here

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omg congratulations! this whole thread has been so helpful and stressful at the same time lol

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I keep seeing people mention adjudication but what does that actually mean? is it bad if your claim is in adjudication

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Adjudication just means EDD is reviewing an aspect of your claim that needs further investigation before they can approve or deny it. It's triggered whenever there's a question about your qualifying reason - like if your employer contests your reason for separation, or if there's ambiguity about whether you quit or were let go. Being in adjudication doesn't automatically mean you'll be denied - it just means they're looking more carefully. The frustrating part is it can add weeks to your timeline and EDD doesn't always communicate clearly about what they're investigating.

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ok that makes sense. mine has been in adjudication for 2 weeks, should I be trying to contact them

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Two weeks isn't unusual but if it stretches past 4-5 weeks or you haven't been contacted for a phone interview yet, yes you should try to reach EDD. Make sure you're still certifying your weekly claims every two weeks even during adjudication - those weeks are back-paid if you're approved.

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Honestly reading this whole thread I feel like the system is designed to confuse people into not filing or giving up. Like why does 'good cause' not have a clear published list of what qualifies? My coworkers and I got laid off at the same time and we're all getting completely different information when we call EDD.

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Because it IS designed to be confusing. Fewer successful claims = lower costs for the state and for employers. I'm not even being cynical, this is how it works.

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I understand the frustration but I'd push back slightly - the reason 'good cause' isn't a fixed list is because life situations are genuinely varied and a rigid list would exclude legitimate hardships. The discretion is supposed to work in claimants' favor for unusual situations. The problem is the system's lack of communication, not necessarily the legal framework itself.

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fair point but the communication issue is the whole problem. if you can't get a clear answer from EDD and can't get anyone on the phone it might as well not exist

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just wanted to share that I qualified after being let go during my probationary period. a lot of people think probationary periods mean you can't get unemployment but that's not true in california. if you're let go during probation and it wasn't for misconduct you still qualify. took me forever to find this out

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Oh this is SO helpful because I've heard people say probationary period = automatic denial and I was worried about this for a coworker

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nope, the probationary period thing is a myth. California looks at the reason for separation, not your employment status when separated. Just make sure to file and describe it accurately.

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good info. another myth is that you can't file if you worked part time. you can as long as you meet the base period earnings requirements

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This might be a weird question but what if the reason you got fired was that you failed a drug test? Does that automatically disqualify you in California

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Not automatically, but it often does depending on the circumstances. EDD looks at whether failing the drug test constitutes 'misconduct.' If drug testing was a clearly stated condition of your employment, you were aware of the policy, and you violated it, EDD will likely find misconduct. However there are nuances - if the job duties didn't require sobriety for safety reasons, if the policy wasn't clearly communicated, or if the substance was legally used medical marijuana off-duty (though this is complicated), there may be arguments against a misconduct finding. This is a situation where talking to someone at EDD directly about your specific circumstances really matters.

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it was cannabis, used on my own time, not right before work or anything. California is legal state does that matter

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It's a genuinely complicated area right now. California has some employee protections regarding off-duty cannabis use but it's still evolving legally. Your best bet is to file, describe the situation honestly, and let EDD make the determination. If denied, appeal - this is an area where appeals have had mixed results and your specific facts matter a lot.

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I'd definitely try to reach EDD directly with a question this specific before filing if possible so you know what to expect and how to frame your claim accurately.

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UPDATE FROM OP: Filed my claim on Monday describing the restructuring/position elimination. Got an email confirmation that my claim is being processed. Also my friend filed describing the office relocation and commute change as the reason for quitting. We're both just waiting now. Will update when we hear back. This thread has been incredibly helpful, thank you everyone.

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Great news on both filings! Make sure you're both starting your weekly certifications right away even before you get an official approval - benefits are typically not paid for weeks you didn't certify even if you were eligible. Good luck to you both.

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Already set up the weekly certifications, checked that off immediately. Now just the waiting game...

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rooting for you both!! please do update us

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Both situations sound strong. Your restructuring layoff is textbook qualifying and office relocation causing a massive commute increase is well-established good cause. Should be okay.

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