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Zane Hernandez

If fired can I get unemployment through California EDD?

So I got let go from my job last week and I honestly don't even know where to start. My manager called me in and said they were letting me go - gave me some reason about performance but honestly it felt super sudden and I wasn't expecting it at all. I've never filed for unemployment before in my life so this whole thing is new to me. Someone told me that if you get fired you can't get unemployment but someone else said that's not always true? I'm confused about what California EDD actually looks at when you get fired vs quit. Do I even qualify? Should I just apply and see what happens or is there some way to know before I file whether I'll get approved? I have bills due next month and I'm kind of freaking out about this.

Good news - getting fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from unemployment in California. The key thing California EDD looks at is WHY you were fired. If you were laid off for lack of work or business reasons, you'll almost certainly qualify with no issues. If you were fired for what EDD calls 'misconduct' - things like stealing, intentional rule violations, showing up drunk, that kind of stuff - THAT can disqualify you. But 'performance issues' by itself? That usually doesn't rise to the level of misconduct under California law. You should definitely file your claim. The worst that happens is EDD investigates and you explain your side.

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Oh that's actually really reassuring. So performance-related stuff isn't automatically misconduct? Because my manager mentioned I missed some deadlines but it wasn't like I was doing anything intentionally wrong.

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Yeah this is correct. There's a difference between being bad at your job and intentionally violating company rules. California EDD recognizes that distinction. File your claim asap because there's a waiting period and you want to start the clock.

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My coworker got fired for being late too many times and still got unemployment approved. They put it under misconduct initially but then it got approved on appeal. The bar for actual misconduct is higher than most people think.

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File immediately. Seriously don't wait. Go to ui.edd.ca.gov and start your claim today. There's already a one-week unpaid waiting period built into every new claim and it starts from when you file, not when you were fired. Every day you delay is a day you potentially lose benefits. When you file they'll ask you the reason for separation - just describe exactly what happened honestly. EDD will contact your former employer to get their version too. This is normal and doesn't mean you did anything wrong.

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Wait so there's a waiting week where I won't get paid no matter what? So I should have filed like the day I got fired?

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Exactly. The waiting week is mandatory under California law - everyone serves it. You can't get benefits for that first week. So yes, file as soon as possible to start that clock running.

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i filed same day i got laid off lol didnt even know about the waiting week thing until i saw my first payment was one week less than expected

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When I got fired from my warehouse job last year I was so stressed thinking I wouldn't qualify. The whole adjudication process was confusing. What actually happened was EDD sent me a questionnaire asking me to explain the circumstances of my separation in detail, and my former employer responded with their account. It took about 3 weeks but I was approved. My advice: write down everything you remember about the circumstances NOW while it's fresh. Dates, what was said, any written warnings you received. That documentation helped me a lot when I had to respond to EDD's questionnaire.

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3 weeks in adjudication sounds really stressful. Did you keep filing your weekly certifications during that time?

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YES - keep filing your weekly certifications every week no matter what. Even if your claim is in adjudication or pending. If you stop filing and then get approved, you may lose those weeks entirely. File every single week.

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This is the most important advice in this thread honestly. I made the mistake of not filing my weeklies during adjudication thinking there was no point and I lost like 3 weeks of benefits. Don't make my mistake.

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honestly when i got fired i spent like 2 weeks trying to call edd to ask questions before i even filed and i could never get anyone on the phone. kept getting the busy signal or getting disconnected. a friend told me to try Claimyr at claimyr.com - it basically gets you through to an actual EDD agent on the phone instead of you sitting there redialing forever. there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you wanna see how it works. saved me so much time and the agent was able to answer all my questions about my specific situation before i filed

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Oh interesting. I was actually just trying to call EDD this morning and got a busy signal four times in a row. Is this legit?

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yeah totally legit. i was skeptical too but it worked. the agent i got was actually super helpful and explained the whole misconduct definition to me which calmed me down a lot

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I've heard of this. My sister used it when she had an overpayment issue she needed to resolve. Said it was way less frustrating than trying to call herself.

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Can I ask a dumb question - does it matter how long you worked there? Like I've only been at my job for 8 months, does that affect whether I qualify for unemployment in California?

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Not a dumb question at all. California EDD looks at your earnings during what they call the 'base period' which is typically the 12-18 months before you filed your claim. You need to have earned at least $1,300 in your highest quarter OR $900 in your highest quarter AND total base period earnings of 1.25x that amount. Eight months of work could easily be enough depending on your wages.

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Oh okay so it's based on how much I earned not just how long I worked. That makes more sense. I was making decent money so hopefully that helps.

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Yeah the base period calculation is something a lot of people don't understand. Even part time work can qualify you if the earnings were sufficient. The EDD website has a benefits calculator you can use to estimate your weekly benefit amount before you even file.

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Something important people forget to mention: when your claim goes into adjudication because of a misconduct question, you have the RIGHT to tell your side of the story. EDD will send you a form - fill it out completely and honestly. If you have any documentation supporting your version of events (emails, texts from supervisors, performance reviews that were actually positive, etc) you can reference those. The burden is actually on the EMPLOYER to prove misconduct, not on you to prove you didn't commit it.

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Wait really? The burden is on the employer? That's not how I thought it worked at all. I assumed I had to prove I deserved to get unemployment.

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Correct. Under California unemployment law, if EDD denies your claim for misconduct, the standard requires the employer to demonstrate you knew the rule, the rule was reasonable, and you deliberately violated it. 'You weren't meeting performance expectations' is usually not misconduct under that definition.

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This is accurate. I worked in HR for a few years and watched employers try to fight unemployment claims. Honestly unless there was something really egregious it's often hard for employers to meet that misconduct standard.

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THE PHONE SITUATION AT EDD IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. Sorry for yelling but I spent 6 hours on hold one day and never got through. Then the next day same thing. And I had a super specific question about my claim that I couldn't figure out from the website. Eventually I had someone help me use Claimyr and got through within the hour. The agent actually pulled up my claim right there and explained exactly what was happening. If you have specific questions about your claim situation you really need to talk to someone directly because the website is not helpful for anything complicated.

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6 hours and still didn't get through?? That's insane. At least now I know I'm not the only one having this problem.

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i literally took a day off work (when i still had a job) to try to call edd about a previous claim issue. spent the whole day and got nowhere. the phone system is genuinely broken

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calling early in the morning is supposed to help but even then it's a gamble. tried at 8am on a tuesday and still got busy signal for like 45 minutes

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I want to clarify something about the misconduct question because I see a lot of confusion online about this. There are actually different LEVELS of misconduct that EDD considers. Regular misconduct can disqualify you temporarily (you may still qualify after a disqualification period). Gross misconduct - like getting fired for a felony - can disqualify you entirely. But simple performance issues, not meeting quotas, making mistakes on the job? Those generally don't even qualify as misconduct at all. California has some of the most worker-friendly unemployment laws in the country.

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This is really helpful context. I feel way better about my situation after reading this. My firing was definitely a performance thing, nothing like stealing or anything serious.

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wait so even if you get disqualified for misconduct there's like a window where you can still eventually get benefits? i didnt know that

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Yes - for regular misconduct EDD typically disqualifies you for a period of time (usually tied to how much your former employer paid into the system) but you're not permanently barred. Gross misconduct affecting public safety or involving a felony is different. But regular misconduct has a disqualification period, not a permanent ban.

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just here to say I was in the exact same position about 4 months ago. fired, never filed unemployment before, totally confused and scared. I filed within 3 days, my claim went into adjudication for 2.5 weeks, and then I was approved. weekly benefit was around $450 which isn't a ton but it definitely helped while I was job searching. the process is stressful but it works out if you just file honestly and keep up with your weekly certifications

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This is exactly what I needed to hear honestly. How did you handle the adjudication period emotionally? I'm already anxious about money.

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It was rough ngl. I just kept telling myself there was nothing more I could do except file my weeklies and wait. Tried to focus on job applications. The hardest part was not knowing the timeline.

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The adjudication uncertainty is the worst part. You just have to keep certifying and trust the process. Most first-time filers who got fired for performance reasons do end up approved in my experience.

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One thing I don't see mentioned - when you file your claim and get approved, you'll also have to meet job search requirements. California EDD requires you to make a minimum number of job search contacts each week (currently 3 per week for most claimants) and keep a record of them. If you're ever audited you need to show proof of your job searching. Use CalJOBS to register and log your search activities - it's the state's job search system and EDD may check it.

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Oh I had no idea about the job search requirements. So I have to be actively applying while receiving benefits?

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Exactly. You certify each week that you were able and available to work and that you made your required job search contacts. Keep a log with dates, company names, position applied for, and how you applied. EDD can ask to see it.

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The job search requirement is important but don't let it stress you out. It's meant to encourage active searching anyway. Just document what you're doing and you'll be fine. Most people are already applying for jobs so it's just a matter of keeping a record.

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does anyone know if you can file if you got fired and then worked a short gig job for a couple weeks after? like technically i wasnt unemployed for those 2 weeks but now the gig dried up and i need benefits

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Yes you can still file! Your base period earnings from all jobs count toward your eligibility. The gig work may actually help your earnings total. When you file, report all your employment history accurately including the gig work. If you earned wages from gig work as a W-2 employee it counts. If it was 1099 independent contractor work it's more complicated but you may still have options.

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it was kind of a mix honestly, some of it was w2 some was 1099. gonna call edd i think to figure out my specific situation

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for calling edd definitely try claimyr.com - like i mentioned earlier it's way better than just dialing and hoping. your situation sounds complicated enough that you really need to talk to an actual agent

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My aunt works at a law firm that handles employment cases and she told me that if you think your firing was actually discriminatory (like based on your age, race, gender, disability, etc.) you should NOT just accept the unemployment claim process as your only option. You might have separate legal claims. The unemployment and any potential wrongful termination/discrimination claim are totally separate processes. Just wanted to throw that out there in case it applies to anyone reading this.

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My situation was pretty clearly performance-related from what I can tell but this is good information for others. I hadn't even thought about that angle.

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Correct and worth noting - filing for unemployment doesn't waive any other legal rights you might have. They're completely separate. If you have any suspicion your firing was discriminatory, consulting with an employment attorney is worth it, many do free consultations.

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I remember when I got fired from my retail job like 3 years ago and I was in the same panic you're in. Here's the condensed version of what I learned: file immediately, certify every week, answer EDD questionnaires completely and honestly, don't stress about the employer fighting your claim because the bar for misconduct is high, and be patient with the timeline. The anxiety of not knowing is the hardest part. Also keep your contact info updated in your UI Online account because EDD sends notifications by email and you don't want to miss anything.

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Thank you for this, really. I updated my contact info right after reading this. I didn't even think about that.

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Yeah the number of people who miss time-sensitive EDD notices because their email was wrong or went to spam is probably huge. Check your spam folder too after you file - EDD emails sometimes end up there.

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good tip about spam. EDD emails about my adjudication went to my spam folder and I almost missed the deadline to respond to their questionnaire. scary

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Something I haven't seen mentioned yet: if EDD denies your claim you have the right to appeal within 30 days of the denial notice. Don't just give up if you get denied. The appeal process involves an actual hearing with an Administrative Law Judge where you can present your side. A lot of denials get reversed on appeal especially when the fired-for-misconduct determination was borderline. So file, and if denied, appeal immediately.

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Good to know there's a safety net if I do get denied. 30 days to appeal - I'll write that down.

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The appeals process is more formal than the initial claim but it's designed to be accessible without a lawyer. You can bring documentation, written statements, even witnesses. Take it seriously but don't be scared of it.

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Also worth noting: if you win your appeal, you receive all the back payments for the weeks you were certified for during the adjudication and denial period. Which is why it's SO important to keep certifying every week even when things look uncertain.

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I'm in the middle of this same situation right now and honestly this thread is helping me more than any official EDD page. Quick question - do I have to tell future employers I collected unemployment? Like is it on some record somewhere?

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No, collecting unemployment is completely confidential between you and EDD. Future employers don't have access to whether you filed or collected unemployment. It's not on any background check report. Collect your benefits without worrying about this.

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Oh thank god. I was actually more worried about that than the money honestly. That's a huge relief.

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yeah there's a lot of myths about unemployment that scare people out of filing. like this one or the idea that it 'hurts' your former employer somehow. collect what you're entitled to, you paid into the system through payroll taxes

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Late to this thread but wanted to add one more thing. When I was in my adjudication period I tried calling EDD probably 20 times over two weeks with no luck. Someone in another forum suggested Claimyr and I finally caved and tried it. Got connected to an EDD rep the same day and she was able to confirm my claim was in process and give me an approximate timeline. Sometimes just knowing your claim isn't lost in the system is worth a lot for your sanity. You can check it out at claimyr.com, they also have a walkthrough video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10

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I think I'm going to try this. The not-knowing is killing me already and I just filed yesterday.

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Yeah for peace of mind alone it was worth it to me. The EDD agent I spoke with was actually really nice and helpful once I got through. The system itself isn't bad, it's just the getting through to someone part that's broken.

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adding this to my list too. thank you for sharing

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