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Aria Park

Can you go on unemployment if you get fired in California? EDD eligibility explained

So I got let go from my job last Friday and I'm freaking out a little trying to figure out my options. My manager called me into the office and said they were 'releasing me from my position' - it wasn't a layoff exactly, they said it was due to performance issues but honestly the whole situation felt really unfair and out of nowhere. I've been with this company for 2.5 years and never had any written warnings or formal disciplinary action on file. Now I'm sitting here wondering - can you even collect unemployment if you get fired? I always assumed unemployment was only for people who get laid off but a coworker told me it depends on the reason. Is that true? Do I even have a shot at getting benefits through California EDD?

Yes you absolutely can file for unemployment even if you were fired - this is one of the biggest misconceptions people have about California EDD. The key distinction is whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' as defined under California unemployment law. Being fired for performance reasons, especially without documented warnings, is actually often NOT considered misconduct under EDD's definition. Misconduct typically means things like intentional rule violations, dishonesty, or deliberate disregard for your employer's interests. Poor performance alone usually doesn't meet that bar. File your claim immediately at UI Online on the EDD website - you have nothing to lose by applying.

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Aria Park

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Wait really?? So even though they said it was performance related I might still qualify? That's a huge relief to hear. I was convinced I just wouldn't be eligible at all.

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This is correct. I work in HR and can confirm that EDD makes its own independent determination about whether termination constitutes disqualifying misconduct. The employer's characterization of why they fired you isn't automatically binding on EDD's decision.

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yeah this happened to my brother he got fired and still got approved. just file and let edd decide dont assume you wont get it

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Filing is definitely the right first step. When you complete your UI Online application, you'll be asked to explain the circumstances of your separation. Be honest and specific - describe that it was a termination, explain that there were no prior written warnings, and describe the performance issues they cited as best you can. EDD will then contact your former employer for their side. Both accounts go to an EDD interviewer who makes the determination. The process usually takes a few weeks but you want to get that application in ASAP because your benefit year starts from the week you file, not the week you were fired.

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Aria Park

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Should I be worried about what my employer is going to say to EDD? They seemed pretty firm that the firing was justified.

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Don't let that intimidate you from filing. Employers often characterize terminations in the most favorable way for themselves to avoid unemployment charges on their account. EDD interviewers are trained to evaluate both sides. Your 2.5 years without documented discipline is actually meaningful context.

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also make sure you file your weekly certifications every week while your claim is being processed!! a lot of people dont know they have to do that and then lose out on weeks of benefits

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I went through almost this exact situation about eight months ago - fired after almost 3 years, they claimed performance issues, no write-ups on record. I was terrified I'd get denied but I filed anyway. EDD sent me a written notice asking me to participate in a phone interview to discuss my separation. The interview was honestly pretty straightforward, I just explained what happened factually. Got approved about two weeks after the interview. Don't give up before you even try. One thing I'll say though - getting EDD on the phone when you have questions during this process is genuinely painful. I spent days redialing and getting disconnected. A friend eventually pointed me toward Claimyr (claimyr.com) which gets you connected to an actual EDD agent without the endless hold nightmare. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - I used it when I had questions about my interview and it saved me so much stress.

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Aria Park

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The phone interview part is making me nervous. Did they ask a lot of specific questions? I want to make sure I'm prepared.

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They asked things like: what were your job duties, what performance issues did they cite, were you ever given formal warnings or a performance improvement plan, did you have any prior disciplinary actions. Just be factual and calm. Don't embellish or get emotional, just tell your honest story.

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seconding the claimyr recommendation - i used it when my claim went into adjudication and actually got through to someone same day. way better than spending hours hitting redial

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ugh the edd phone system is genuinely one of the worst experiences of my life. took me 3 weeks to get through to an actual person on my own

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One important thing to understand about California EDD misconduct determinations - California actually has a relatively claimant-friendly interpretation compared to many other contexts. Under California Unemployment Insurance Code, misconduct requires a showing that the employee substantially breached a material duty owed to the employer. Courts and EDD have consistently held that mistakes, inefficiency, or inability to perform the job are NOT misconduct. Only willful, wanton, or intentional misbehavior typically qualifies. So if your employer is claiming you just weren't performing well enough, that's a factual pattern that tends to favor approval rather than denial.

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Aria Park

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This is really reassuring. They never accused me of anything dishonest or intentional - just said my work wasn't meeting expectations. No PIP, no formal review, nothing like that documented.

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Honestly EDD should just communicate this clearly because so many people don't file because they assume being fired means automatic disqualification. The system is confusing on purpose it feels like

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The lack of a Performance Improvement Plan or documented warnings is actually going to help your case. It's harder for the employer to demonstrate they gave you fair notice and opportunity to correct behavior if there's no paper trail on their end.

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wait i'm confused about something - does it matter how long you worked there for whether you qualify?? like do you have to have worked a certain amount of time before you can get unemployment

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Great question - yes there are base period earnings requirements. California EDD looks at wages earned during a 'base period' which is typically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. You need to have earned at least $1,300 in your highest quarter, OR at least $900 in your highest quarter AND total base period earnings of at least 1.25 times your highest quarter earnings. With 2.5 years at a job OP definitely should meet the wage requirements.

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ok that makes sense, I only worked at my last job for like 4 months so I was wondering if that would be enough

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If you only worked 4 months you might still qualify depending on your wages during that period. You could also potentially qualify using an alternate base period that includes more recent wages. Worth filing and letting EDD determine eligibility.

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I filed for unemployment after being fired last year and got DENIED initially even though I had no written warnings either. My employer told EDD that I had received multiple verbal warnings about tardiness. It was their word against mine since nothing was in writing. I ended up appealing the denial and WON at the appeal hearing because I was able to show my timecards and demonstrate the tardiness claims were exaggerated. Just want OP to know that even if you get denied initially, that's not the end - you have the right to appeal within 30 days of the denial notice and present your case to an Administrative Law Judge.

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Aria Park

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Oh wow I didn't even know there was an appeals process. That's really good to know as a backup. Did the appeal process take a long time?

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My appeal hearing was scheduled about 5-6 weeks after I filed the appeal. The hearing itself was over the phone and took maybe 45 minutes. It honestly wasn't as scary as I expected. The ALJ was pretty neutral and just let both sides explain their positions.

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appeals are underrated honestly. edd initial determinations are sometimes wrong and the appeal success rate for claimants who actually show up to their hearing is pretty decent

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just file asap seriously stop overthinking it. the worst that happens is you get denied and then you appeal. the best that happens is you get approved and start receiving benefits. you literally have nothing to lose by filing today. UI Online takes like 30-45 minutes to complete

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Aria Park

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You're right, I've been sitting here agonizing when I should just be doing it. Filing today.

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exactly this. every week you wait is potentially a week of benefits you cant get backdated so just go file

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The whole 'you can't get unemployment if you're fired' myth drives me absolutely crazy because it stops so many people from even applying. I've seen people go months without income they were legally entitled to because they assumed firing = no benefits. California EDD is specifically designed to cover people in exactly OP's situation - involuntary job loss through no deliberate fault of their own. Even if your employer fought the claim, you deserve the opportunity to have your case evaluated fairly.

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100% this. I've told at least 4 friends in the past year to file after being fired and 3 of them got approved. the 4th got denied but appealed and I think is still waiting on that

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the misconception is so widespread. my own mom told me not to bother filing when i got fired because she was convinced it was only for layoffs. glad i ignored that advice

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Aria Park

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This thread has completely changed my understanding of how this works. I genuinely thought I had zero options.

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Something practical to help you prepare for the EDD phone interview - write down a clear timeline of your employment before the interview. Include your start date, your job title and main responsibilities, any performance feedback you received (even informal), the date of the termination, exactly what was said to you, and whether you were given any documentation at the time of firing. Having this written out means you won't fumble for details during the interview when you're nervous. EDD interviewers typically schedule these calls and give you advance notice so you'll have time to prepare.

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Aria Park

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This is super practical, thank you. I'm going to put together that timeline tonight. The termination meeting was so sudden I'm still processing it honestly.

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Also recommend saving any emails or messages related to your job performance from the past year if you can access your work email. Even positive feedback from a manager is useful context to have handy.

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Good point on documentation. If you were given any written termination paperwork save that too - sometimes what's written in the termination letter differs from what the employer later tells EDD

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you register with CalJOBS (the California job search portal) and understand the work search requirements once your claim is approved. You'll need to document job search activities each week you certify for benefits. Usually that means a certain number of employer contacts per week. Failing to meet work search requirements is one of the ways people inadvertently lose benefits they legitimately earned.

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Aria Park

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Oh I didn't even know about this CalJOBS thing. Is that something I need to do right away or only after I'm approved?

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You should register with CalJOBS as soon as possible - ideally within the first week or two of filing your claim. EDD requires registration as part of your ongoing eligibility. Then once approved you log your job search activities and certify weekly through UI Online.

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the job search requirements are like 3 contacts a week I think? or is it more now

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It's currently a minimum of 3 employer contacts per week in California. These can be job applications, interviews, connecting with employers directly, or using approved job search resources. Keep records of all of them with dates, employer names, and contact methods.

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lol when i got fired my first thought was 'well that's it i'm done' and didn't file for like 3 weeks because i was embarrassed and thought i didn't qualify. finally filed and got approved within like 3 weeks after that. lost 3 weeks of benefits for no reason. dont make my mistake OP just file NOW

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Aria Park

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The embarrassment thing is real. I feel weird about it too. But you're right that's not a good reason to wait.

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There's genuinely nothing to be embarrassed about. Unemployment insurance exists precisely for situations like this. You paid into this system through taxes on your wages. It's not charity, it's an earned benefit.

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I want to add some clarity on what California EDD actually considers disqualifying misconduct since there's some vague info floating around this thread. Under California UI Code Section 1256, you're disqualified for misconduct if you were discharged for 'misconduct connected with the most recent work.' California courts have interpreted this to require that the conduct be (1) willful or wanton, (2) in disregard of the employer's interests, (3) a violation of the employee's material duty to the employer, and (4) a substantial breach of that duty. Simply being bad at your job, making honest mistakes, having performance issues, or even being fired for cause in an HR sense doesn't automatically meet this legal standard. OP's situation - no documented warnings, performance-based termination - reads as a strong candidate for approval.

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Aria Park

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This is incredibly helpful context. Reading that legal definition actually makes me feel like I have a real shot here.

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Section 1256 is the key statute yes. Also worth knowing that the BURDEN OF PROOF falls on the employer in these determinations. They have to prove misconduct, you don't have to prove you didn't commit it.

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Wait that's actually huge - the burden is on the employer?? I wish more people knew this. The whole framing always seems like the claimant has to justify themselves

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been reading this whole thread and just want to say as someone who went through a really rough unemployment process last year - the emotional toll of it is real and it's okay to feel stressed about this. dealing with edd while also job hunting while also worrying about money is genuinely exhausting. hope things work out for OP

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Aria Park

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Thank you, that actually means a lot. It's been a rough few days.

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Solidarity. The financial uncertainty combined with the bureaucratic complexity is a lot to manage. Hang in there OP, sounds like you have a genuinely strong case.

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DONT FORGET to file your weekly certifications every single week even while your claim is still processing or in adjudication!! I cannot stress this enough. So many people wait until they're 'officially approved' to start certifying and then they can't get retroactive payment for those uncertified weeks. File the certifications every week from the very first week, even if you're not sure about your status yet.

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Aria Park

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I've seen this mentioned twice now so I'm going to make sure I do this. Does it matter what I answer on the weekly certification while things are still being decided?

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Just answer honestly every week. The weekly certification asks about work and earnings that week, any school attendance, availability and ability to work, and whether you looked for work. Answer accurately. The benefit determination happens separately from the weekly certification process.

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This is critical advice. Weekly certifications are the mechanism through which you actually receive payment. If you don't certify for a week, you don't get paid for it, period. EDD won't automatically pay you retroactively just because your claim was later approved.

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Jumping in because I had a slightly different situation - I was fired AND my employer initially contested my unemployment claim. It went to adjudication for almost 5 weeks. I was panicking the whole time trying to get updates from EDD and their phone system is genuinely broken. After 2 weeks of failed attempts I tried Claimyr (claimyr.com) based on a tip from someone on Reddit. Got connected to an actual EDD rep within like 20 minutes. The agent was able to tell me exactly where my claim was in the process and what documentation I still needed to submit. That alone was worth it - just knowing the status instead of refreshing UI Online every hour wondering what was happening. There's a walkthrough video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see how it works before trying it.

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Aria Park

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5 weeks in adjudication sounds incredibly stressful. Did it eventually get resolved in your favor?

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It did! Employer claimed I violated company policy but couldn't produce documented evidence of warnings. EDD approved my claim. The whole process was nerve-wracking but the outcome was right.

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the edd phone system failure during adjudication is SO common. at least 3 people in my family have gone through the same thing - approved eventually but weeks of radio silence where you can't get any info on what's happening

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From an employer-side perspective (I work in HR at a mid-size company) - when EDD contacts your former employer, they'll typically send a written questionnaire about the separation circumstances. Employers have to respond within a deadline or EDD may rule in the claimant's favor by default. In your case OP, your employer will have to specifically articulate what misconduct occurred and ideally back it up with documentation. If their position is essentially 'performance wasn't good enough' with no paper trail, that's a difficult case for them to make under California's legal standards.

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Aria Park

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This is so useful to know. I was imagining my old manager just saying whatever they wanted and EDD automatically believing them.

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That's a common misconception. EDD is an independent adjudicator, not an arm of employers. Their job is to determine eligibility under state law, which means evaluating both the employer's claims AND the claimant's account.

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Even when employers do submit documentation, EDD interviewers are trained to evaluate whether that documentation actually demonstrates legal misconduct vs just poor performance. I've seen people get approved even when employers submitted a whole stack of performance reviews.

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quick question for the thread - if OP gets approved how long does it actually take to get the first payment? i'm about to file too and trying to figure out the timeline

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Generally after approval there's a one-week unpaid waiting period (the first week of your benefit year doesn't pay). After that, once you certify for week 2 and it's processed, payment typically arrives within 2-3 business days if you have direct deposit set up on your EDD debit card or bank account. Initial approval determination after filing typically takes 3-4 weeks if there are no complications.

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ok so realistically like 4-5 weeks from filing to first payment if everything goes smoothly? that's a long time to wait

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That's about right for uncomplicated claims. If your claim goes into adjudication because of a dispute or question about eligibility it can be significantly longer - sometimes 8-12 weeks or more. Which is why getting a quick resolution on any issues matters so much.

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OP wanted to check back in - did you actually file yet? Rooting for you over here

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Aria Park

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Yes! Filed this morning through UI Online. Took about 40 minutes total. It asked me to describe the circumstances of my termination and I just wrote out honestly that it was performance-related, no written warnings, employed for 2.5 years. Now waiting for EDD to contact me about the next steps. Thank you to everyone in this thread - you all genuinely helped me understand my situation way better than I did before.

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That's awesome news. Now just make sure to certify every week and check your UI Online inbox regularly for any notices from EDD. You've got this.

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So glad you filed! This thread is a great example of why it matters that accurate info gets out there about fired employees being able to collect unemployment. Good luck OP, hope you hear back quickly.

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one more thing people should know - even if you accept a severance package when you're fired it doesn't necessarily disqualify you from unemployment. EDD treats severance differently depending on how it's structured. if it's paid as a lump sum it usually doesn't affect your benefits. if it's paid as ongoing salary continuation it might reduce your weekly benefit amount during those weeks. definitely worth clarifying with EDD if you received any severance.

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Aria Park

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I actually did receive a small severance - two weeks pay. This is important to know, thank you. I'll make sure I disclose this on my claim.

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Yes always disclose any severance. Based on what you described (two weeks lump sum) it likely won't disqualify you or significantly impact your ongoing benefits, but EDD needs to know about it. Failing to disclose income can create overpayment issues down the road which are a serious headache.

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Overpayment notices are not something you want to deal with on top of everything else - definitely report it upfront. Claimyr (claimyr.com) can also be useful if you need to reach EDD to clarify exactly how your severance will be treated before your first certification - better to get confirmation than guess.

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This whole thread should be pinned honestly. The misinformation that circulates about who can collect unemployment is so damaging. People who are legitimately entitled to benefits go without because they believe myths. For anyone finding this thread through a search - if you were fired in California and are wondering whether to file, the answer is almost always: YES, file. Let EDD make the determination. Don't make that determination yourself based on assumptions about the system.

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Agreed 100%. The system is confusing enough without adding incorrect assumptions on top of it. File first, understand the details as you go through the process.

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Aria Park

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Could not agree more based on my experience starting this thread. I was fully prepared to just not file because I 'knew' I wouldn't qualify. This community saved me from making a really expensive mistake.

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genuinely one of the more helpful threads i've seen on here. the combo of legal context, practical advice, and real experiences is exactly what people need when they're freaking out about this stuff

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