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Ava Rodriguez

Can I get California EDD unemployment if I get fired from my job?

So I just got let go from my job at a logistics company where I'd been working for about two and a half years. My manager called me into the office last Tuesday and said they were letting me go due to 'performance issues' but honestly the whole thing felt really sudden and I'm not even sure what I did wrong. They gave me my final paycheck and that was it. I've never filed for unemployment before and I'm trying to figure out if I'm even eligible. I always thought you could only get unemployment if you got laid off, not fired. But someone told me it depends on the reason? I'm confused about what California EDD looks at when they decide if you qualify. Can someone explain how this works? Do I still have a shot at getting approved even though my employer called it a performance termination?

Yes, being fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from California EDD unemployment benefits. This is one of the biggest misconceptions out there. California EDD looks at the specific circumstances behind the termination, not just the label your employer puts on it. The key question they ask is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' as defined under California unemployment law. Performance issues, mistakes, or even being bad at your job generally do NOT count as misconduct in the legal sense. Misconduct under California EDD rules typically means intentional wrongdoing, deliberate violation of company policy, or something along those lines. If you were simply not meeting performance standards or made honest mistakes, you very likely still qualify for UI benefits. File your claim right away because there's a waiting week and delays in filing cost you money.

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Wait so the difference is intentional vs unintentional? Like if I just wasn't performing well enough that's not misconduct?

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Exactly right. California law makes a distinction between 'misconduct' and 'unsatisfactory performance.' Honest mistakes or inability to meet performance standards typically don't disqualify you. Intentionally violating company rules knowing you could get fired is a different story. Since your employer said performance issues, you have a solid case for benefits.

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This is correct and worth emphasizing. I've seen people NOT file because they assumed being fired meant automatic disqualification and they lost weeks of benefits they were entitled to. Always file and let California EDD make the determination.

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omg i went through the exact same thing last year!! got fired from my retail job and was so scared to even apply bc i thought id get denied automatically. ended up filing anyway and got approved no problem. my employer didnt even contest it. just file asap dont wait

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That's really encouraging to hear, thank you. Did your employer fight it at all?

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nope never heard anything from them. i think a lot of employers dont bother contesting unless it was like a serious situation

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I was in a similar boat about 6 months ago and the hardest part for me wasn't the application itself, it was actually getting through to California EDD on the phone when I had questions about my claim status after filing. Kept getting busy signals or getting disconnected after waiting forever. A coworker mentioned a service called Claimyr that basically gets you connected to a live California EDD agent without you having to sit on hold for hours. I checked out their site at claimyr.com and watched their demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 and decided to try it. Got through to an agent same day and they confirmed my claim was processing normally. Honestly was a lifesaver when I was stressed about whether my fired-for-performance claim was going to be approved.

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I didn't even think about needing to call them but I probably will once I file. Good to know this exists.

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seconding this, getting a live person at EDD is nearly impossible otherwise

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Is that service legit? Never heard of it before

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Here's a step-by-step breakdown of what happens when you file after being fired. First, you file your initial claim on UI Online at the California EDD website. California EDD will then contact both you and your former employer to get both sides of the story. This is called the fact-finding process. Your employer will be asked to explain the reason for termination and provide any documentation. You'll be asked for your version of events. A California EDD representative then reviews everything and makes an eligibility determination. If they find the termination was NOT due to misconduct, you get approved. If they do find misconduct, you'll receive a disqualification notice that you can appeal within 30 days. The whole fact-finding process can add 2-4 weeks to your timeline so file TODAY to start the clock.

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So they actually investigate it? I was worried my employer could just say whatever and I'd automatically be denied.

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Correct, California EDD is required to consider both sides. Your statement carries real weight. Be detailed and honest when you respond to their fact-finding questionnaire. Explain the performance issues were not intentional misconduct and describe any context around the termination.

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Also document everything you remember about the situation before your memory fades. Dates, what was said, any written warnings you received. All of that could help if it goes to an appeal hearing.

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Does this process take forever tho? Like how long until you actually get paid

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THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DONT KNOW THEY CAN QUALIFY AFTER BEING FIRED IS EXACTLY WHAT EDD COUNTS ON. File your claim. Seriously. I've watched friends not file because they assumed they didn't qualify and lost thousands of dollars in benefits they were entitled to. The system is confusing on purpose.

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honestly not wrong lol

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While I understand the frustration, California EDD doesn't actively try to confuse people. But the rules ARE complex and a lot of misinformation circulates, which is why threads like this matter.

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To answer the timeline question from above - after you file your initial claim there's a mandatory one-week unpaid waiting period (this week does not get paid). After that, if your claim is straightforward, benefits can start within 3 weeks of filing. However if your claim goes into adjudication (which is common when someone is fired), it can take 4-8 weeks before you receive a determination. During adjudication you should still certify for benefits every two weeks so the weeks don't get lost. If approved, you'll receive back pay for all certified weeks.

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Wait I need to keep certifying even while it's in adjudication? I didn't know that.

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YES this is critical. Do not stop certifying just because your claim is in adjudication or pending. If you get approved later, you'll receive payment for all weeks you properly certified. If you stop certifying, those weeks are gone.

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Cannot stress this enough. I made the mistake of not certifying for 3 weeks thinking I had to wait for adjudication to resolve. Lost those weeks entirely.

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okay but what if the employer lies about what happened?? like my cousin got fired and his employer told edd it was for stealing when it wasnt and he had to fight it and it was a whole nightmare

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That's what the appeals process is for. If your employer makes false claims and California EDD denies you based on that, you have 30 days to appeal the decision to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB). At the appeal hearing, both you and your employer present evidence and a neutral administrative law judge decides. Many claimants win on appeal even after initial denials.

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Your cousin's situation is actually really common unfortunately. But employees win a significant number of those appeal hearings because employers often can't back up their claims with actual documentation.

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This is making me a little nervous. My employer didn't give me anything in writing about why I was fired, just told me verbally it was performance.

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The fact that your termination was verbal with no written documentation actually works in your favor potentially. California EDD places the burden of proof on the employer when it comes to misconduct claims. If your employer can't produce written warnings, performance improvement plans, or other documentation showing they followed progressive discipline procedures, their case for misconduct is significantly weaker. Just make sure when California EDD contacts you for fact-finding that you clearly explain: 1) you were not given prior written warnings, 2) the termination was sudden and verbal, 3) you had no intention to harm the company and were doing your best. Those are the key points.

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This is incredibly helpful. I genuinely was trying my best there and just struggled with some of the metrics they used for performance evaluation.

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That context is important and exactly what you should communicate to California EDD. Performance metric struggles are not misconduct. Document everything you've shared here and have it ready for fact-finding.

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went through adjudication after being fired in march and got approved in about 5 weeks fwiw. the waiting is the hardest part tbh. i called edd like every day trying to get updates and kept getting the 'we are experiencing high call volume' message and hanging up. someone in another thread mentioned claimyr.com for getting through to a live edd agent and it worked for me too. definitely worth it when you're stressed and just need a human to tell you where your claim stands

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5 weeks isn't too bad. Did you have to do anything special to help move it along or did it just resolve on its own?

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honestly just let it process and called once i got through using claimyr to confirm they had everything they needed. the agent confirmed all my docs were received and said the claim was in queue. peace of mind was worth it

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quick question that might be dumb but when you file for unemployment after being fired do you have to tell them you were fired or can you just say you left the job. asking for a friend lol

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You should never misrepresent the reason for separation on your California EDD claim. California EDD cross-references your information with employer records and they WILL find out if the story doesn't match. Misrepresentation can result in disqualification, overpayment demands, and potentially fraud penalties. Just be honest - as explained in this thread, being fired for performance is NOT an automatic disqualification.

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ok yeah makes sense just wasn't sure thanks

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people think they can hide things from edd but they literally check with your employer. just be honest.

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I want to add some nuance to the 'performance termination is always fine' advice. There are situations where being fired CAN lead to disqualification even if the employer calls it a performance issue. For example: if you were fired because you repeatedly refused to follow reasonable workplace directives without good cause, that could potentially be interpreted as misconduct. Or if you had multiple documented warnings and continued the same behavior. The gray areas are where it gets complicated. The best approach is to be completely honest in your fact-finding responses and let California EDD make the call rather than trying to strategically frame things.

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Fair point. The word 'performance' from an employer doesn't guarantee approval just as the word 'fired' doesn't guarantee denial. California EDD looks at the actual facts. But yes, straightforward 'couldn't meet metrics' situations overwhelmingly result in approval.

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Mine was genuinely about not hitting sales targets that most of my team also struggled with. Does that context matter?

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That context matters a lot actually. If the performance targets were unreasonable or most employees struggled to meet them, that supports your case strongly. Mention that in your fact-finding response.

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also just want to say - file online through UI Online on the California EDD website not over the phone if you can. the online system is way faster and you get a confirmation number right away. phone filing takes forever and the hold times are brutal

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Good to know, I'll do it online. Is there anything I need to have ready before I start the application?

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yeah have your social security number, last employer info including their address and phone, your last day of work, reason for separation (just say performance termination), and your bank account info for direct deposit if you want direct deposit. takes maybe 20-30 min online

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I had what sounds like a similar situation two years ago. Fired for 'not meeting company standards' after 18 months at a tech startup. I was terrified to file because my manager had made a bunch of verbal threats about fighting any unemployment claim I made. Filed anyway, went into adjudication for about 6 weeks, employer did respond to California EDD's inquiry but couldn't provide any written documentation of warnings. Approved in full. Got several months of benefits. Don't let employer bluster stop you from filing what you're legally entitled to.

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The verbal threats thing is interesting - can employers actually prevent you from getting unemployment?

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They can contest it and provide information to California EDD but ultimately they cannot just veto your claim. California EDD makes the independent determination. An employer saying they'll fight it is often just intimidation.

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And even if the employer contests successfully and you're denied initially, you can appeal. Employers know that appeals take their time and resources too, so many don't follow through on threats.

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does anyone know if part time work affects things?? like if i get a part time job while waiting for edd to process can i still get benefits

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Yes you can work part time and still receive partial unemployment benefits in California. When you certify for benefits you report any earnings during that week. California EDD uses a formula: your weekly benefit amount is reduced by the amount you earn above $25 or 25% of your weekly benefit amount (whichever is higher). So working part time reduces your benefit but doesn't eliminate it entirely unless you earn more than your weekly benefit amount. This is actually encouraged - California EDD wants people to be working and earning even while receiving benefits.

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oh thats actually pretty good to know ty

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One more thing worth knowing - once your California EDD claim is approved, you'll also need to meet ongoing job search requirements. You're required to perform three job search activities per week and keep a record of them. These can be applying to jobs, attending job fairs, networking, etc. California EDD can audit your job search log so keep actual records with employer names, dates, and contact info. This is required for every week you certify for benefits.

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Three per week? That seems manageable. Do they actually check?

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They do periodic audits and if you're selected and can't provide your job search log you can be disqualified and potentially face an overpayment. Just keep a simple spreadsheet or use the California EDD website's job search log feature.

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i just use a google doc to track mine, employer name, date applied, position, and method of application. takes 5 minutes

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Update us when you find out what happens! Rooting for you. This thread is super helpful, saving it for reference.

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Will do! Going to file today after reading all this. Feeling a lot more confident than I did this morning.

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good luck!! the waiting is stressful but sounds like you have a solid case

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Something I wish someone had told me: after you file, log into UI Online regularly because California EDD sends notices and questionnaires through the online portal and you might miss them if you're only checking email or physical mail. Missing a fact-finding questionnaire deadline can result in a denial by default. Set a reminder to check your UI Online account at least every few days.

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Oh wow that's a really important tip. I would have just waited for something in the mail.

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This is excellent advice. California EDD uses UI Online as the primary communication channel now. Physical mail can lag by several days. Check your UI Online inbox frequently during the adjudication period.

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Also make sure the email address on your account is current so you get the notification pings when new messages arrive.

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If your claim does get denied and you have to appeal, don't freak out. I appealed a denial last year and won at the CUIAB hearing. The hearings are way less formal than I expected - it's basically a phone call with an administrative law judge where you each tell your side. I had printed out my employment agreement, some email chains showing the vague performance feedback I received, and a timeline I wrote out. The judge asked clear questions and was pretty fair. The whole hearing was maybe 45 minutes. Got the decision letter about 3 weeks later saying I won.

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Good to know the appeals process isn't as scary as it sounds. Hopefully I won't need it but this is reassuring.

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Yeah prepare thoroughly, be calm, stick to facts, and let your documentation speak. Employers often show up unprepared or don't show up at all.

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This is an accurate description of the CUIAB hearing process. Administrative law judges are there to find facts, not punish anyone. Being clear, organized, and honest is your best strategy.

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I just want to come back and say to OP - you have rights here. California EDD exists specifically for situations like yours. Performance terminations result in approved claims constantly. The system isn't perfect and it can be slow and frustrating but the law is generally on your side when you're fired for not meeting metrics rather than intentional misconduct. File today. Certify every two weeks. Check UI Online regularly. And if you need to reach an actual EDD agent to check your claim status during the process, I've heard good things about claimyr.com - apparently they help you get through to a live person without the endless hold time nightmare. You've got this.

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Thank you so much everyone in this thread. I filed my claim about an hour ago. Confirmation number received. Now I wait. I'll report back!

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yessss good luck!! you got this

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great news, fingers crossed for a smooth and fast approval!

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