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If you are fired from a job can you collect unemployment in California?

So I got let go from my job at a logistics company last week and I'm honestly not sure where I stand with filing for unemployment. My manager said I was being 'terminated' but they gave me a bunch of vague reasons about 'performance concerns' and 'attitude issues' — nothing specific, no write-ups, no prior warnings. I've been there for almost 4 years and this came totally out of nowhere. I always thought that if you get fired you just automatically can't collect unemployment but my cousin told me that's not always true in California? I don't want to waste my time filing if I'm just going to get denied anyway. Does anyone know if you can actually get unemployment benefits through California EDD if your employer fired you? What factors does California EDD look at when deciding?

Your cousin is absolutely right — being fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from unemployment in California. California EDD evaluates the reason behind the termination, not just the fact that you were terminated. The key distinction California EDD makes is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' as legally defined. Under California unemployment law, misconduct has a pretty specific meaning — it's not just poor performance or making mistakes. It generally means intentional wrongdoing, a willful disregard of your employer's interests, or a deliberate violation of known company policies. If you were let go for things like not meeting performance targets, lacking skills for the role, or even clashing with management without any formal disciplinary history, California EDD will typically find that your separation doesn't meet the legal standard for misconduct and you'd be eligible for benefits. I'd strongly recommend filing your UI claim right away at UI Online (edd.ca.gov). The clock starts ticking from when you file, not when you were terminated, so every week you wait is potentially money left on the table. Your employer will be contacted and given a chance to provide their side, and then California EDD will make a determination. If they do find misconduct, you have the right to appeal that decision.

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This is really helpful, thank you. So even though it says 'terminated' on my paperwork I should still go ahead and file? I've been putting it off because I was sure I'd just get denied automatically.

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Yes, file immediately. The worst that happens is you go through adjudication and potentially need to appeal. But if your termination was vague and undocumented like you described, there's a solid chance you qualify. California EDD gives you the benefit of the doubt when the employer can't prove specific misconduct.

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agreed file right away, i waited two weeks thinking i wouldnt qualify and lost those weeks of benefits entirely

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Just to add some practical detail to what was said above — California EDD uses a 'misconduct standard' that's actually pretty claimant-friendly compared to a lot of other states. Here's what generally DOESN'T count as disqualifying misconduct under California unemployment law: - Performance issues (not hitting sales goals, productivity below expectations) - Personality conflicts or attitude problems without documented policy violations - Mistakes or errors in judgment that weren't intentional - Being fired during a probationary period for 'not being a good fit' - Layoffs disguised as terminations for cause What CAN disqualify you: - Proven theft or dishonesty - Repeated willful violations of known written policies AFTER warnings - Drug/alcohol use on the job in violation of a known policy - Intentional insubordination Given your description — 4 years at the company, no prior write-ups, vague reasons — I'd say you have a really reasonable shot at qualifying. File your claim, be honest about what happened, and let California EDD sort it out.

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Okay this breakdown is exactly what I needed. The 'attitude issues' thing they mentioned — I disagreed with my supervisor about some scheduling changes a few times but nothing that ever became a formal complaint or warning. Does that kind of thing hurt me?

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Disagreeing with a supervisor, even repeatedly, without any formal disciplinary action on record is generally NOT going to be considered misconduct by California EDD. Employers need to show a pattern of documented warnings and willful violations. One-sided verbal complaints without documentation rarely hold up.

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This is good info. I got fired from a restaurant job and thought the same thing — that I was automatically disqualified. Ended up qualifying no problem because they couldn't prove any real misconduct. The adjudication process took about 3 weeks but it worked out.

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When I got fired last year I was in the exact same boat — panicking and assuming I couldn't get benefits. I spent a week calling California EDD trying to get a straight answer and couldn't get through to anyone. The phone lines are absolutely brutal, I was on hold for hours and kept getting disconnected. A friend told me about a service called Claimyr that basically gets you through to a live California EDD agent without you having to sit on hold all day. I was skeptical but at that point I just needed answers about whether I could even file. Went to claimyr.com, used the service, and actually got connected to an EDD rep who walked me through my options. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see before trying it. The agent confirmed I could file as a terminated employee and explained the adjudication process. Ended up getting approved. Definitely worth it just to get those initial questions answered from an actual person.

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I've been trying to call California EDD for two days and can't get through. I'll check that out, I really just want to talk to someone who can look at my specific situation.

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the edd phone lines are literally impossible. been trying for a week on a different issue. might try that claimyr thing

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I used Claimyr too when I had an adjudication issue after being fired. Got connected pretty quickly and the agent was actually helpful about explaining what documentation I needed. Way better than the hold music lottery.

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ok so genuine question — does it matter WHY they say they fired you on their end? like what if the employer tells california edd something different from what they told you

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Great question and yes, this matters a lot. California EDD will contact your former employer for their version of events. If their story and yours conflict, EDD will weigh the evidence — and here's the important part: the burden of proof is on the EMPLOYER to prove misconduct, not on you to prove you didn't commit misconduct. If their explanation is vague, inconsistent, or undocumented, that typically works in your favor during adjudication.

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oh interesting so the employer actually has to prove something, i always thought it was the other way around

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Exactly right. In a termination case, California EDD starts from the assumption that you're eligible and the employer has to overcome that with specific documented evidence of disqualifying misconduct. Vague 'performance' or 'attitude' claims without documentation are very hard for employers to prove.

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this tripped me up too. i thought i had to prove i DESERVED to keep my job. nope. they have to prove you did something specifically wrong enough to disqualify you from benefits

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went through this exact situation 6 months ago. fired from a tech startup after 2 years, they called it 'performance related' but i had never had a bad review and there were zero write-ups. filed anyway because someone on a forum like this told me to. went into adjudication for about 3.5 weeks. california edd called me once to get my side of the story — make sure you answer that call if you can, it's really important. my employer apparently gave some vague answer and couldn't produce any documentation. i was approved. got my first payment about 5 weeks after filing. definitely file don't just assume you're disqualified

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The part about answering the call from California EDD — do they call from a specific number? I'm nervous I'll miss it and mess everything up.

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They usually call from an 833 or 800 area code but honestly just answer calls from numbers you don't recognize while your claim is in adjudication. If you miss it they may leave a voicemail with a callback number. You can also sometimes reach out through UI Online to confirm your phone number on file is correct.

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this is a good point, i almost missed mine because i thought it was spam. answer every unknown number when your claim is pending

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Something that's really important and I don't see mentioned yet — when you fill out your California EDD claim application online, there will be a section asking about the reason for separation. Be honest and accurate but also be specific. Don't just write 'fired' or 'terminated.' Explain in your own words what happened. Something like: 'I was terminated on [date]. My employer cited performance concerns and attitude issues. I had no prior written warnings or formal disciplinary actions during my 4 years of employment. I was not informed of specific policy violations.' The more factual detail you provide, the easier it is for California EDD to evaluate your claim without needing additional investigation. Vague answers sometimes trigger longer adjudication periods.

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This is super useful. I was just going to select 'fired' from the dropdown and leave it at that. I'll make sure to write out the full explanation.

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Yes definitely use the explanation field. Also keep a personal record of everything you remember — what your manager said, what date, any witnesses, anything in writing. You may need it if your employer disputes things during adjudication.

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Adding to this — if you have any emails, texts, or documents from your employer that back up your version of events, keep copies somewhere safe. You don't have to submit them initially but if you end up needing to appeal, you'll want that paper trail.

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EDD is just going to deny you anyway lol they deny everything first and make you appeal. just be ready for that

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That's actually a misconception. California EDD does approve a meaningful percentage of claims without requiring an appeal — especially termination cases where the employer can't demonstrate misconduct. That said, it's always wise to know the appeal process exists and to use it if you get an unfair denial. The appeals process through the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB) is free and claimants win a significant portion of appeal hearings.

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ok fair enough i guess i just had bad luck twice. both times i got denied first and had to appeal to get anywhere

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Same experience here — I did have to appeal but ultimately won. The appeal process is actually pretty claimant-friendly in California if you document your case properly.

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Real talk — I work in HR and see the other side of these California EDD claims. When employees get terminated and file UI claims, we as employers DO get notified and have to respond. Honestly, for terminations involving vague performance issues without documentation, most HR people know the company has a weak case for misconduct. If your employer didn't document anything — no performance improvement plans, no written warnings, no formal reviews citing the specific issues — they're going to have a very hard time convincing California EDD that your termination was for disqualifying misconduct. My advice: file your claim, tell your honest story, and let the process work. A lot of employers won't even bother fighting UI claims they know they can't win.

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This is genuinely reassuring to hear from someone on the employer side. I was imagining my old company going all out to fight my claim but if they have nothing documented I guess there's not much they can do.

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Exactly. And most companies know that aggressively fighting UI claims with weak documentation just wastes everyone's time. The unemployment tax rate impact on employers is relatively small, and fighting a claim you're likely to lose anyway doesn't make a lot of business sense.

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huh i never thought about the employer calculating whether its worth fighting. makes sense though

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Just to make sure you understand the timeline here since I went through a fired-from-job UI claim last year: 1. File your claim online at UI Online on edd.ca.gov 2. California EDD sends a questionnaire to both you and your employer about the separation 3. Your claim goes into adjudication while EDD reviews both sides — this typically takes 3-6 weeks 4. You'll receive a written Notice of Determination in the mail (and it shows up in your UI Online inbox) 5. If approved, payments are backdated to your filing date 6. If denied, you have 30 days from the determination date to appeal to CUIAB IMPORTANT: Keep filing your weekly certifications every single week even while your claim is in adjudication and even if you think you'll be denied. If you're ultimately approved, those weekly certifications are how you get paid for those weeks. If you don't certify, you don't get paid for that week even if your claim is approved.

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WAIT — I need to file weekly certifications even before I get a determination?? I had no idea. I haven't done this. How do I start?

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Yes! This is one of the most common mistakes people make. Log into UI Online and look for 'Certify for Benefits' — it becomes available every two weeks (you certify for both weeks at once). Start doing this immediately. If you've already missed weeks, there's a process to certify for past weeks but it's more complicated, so don't miss any more going forward.

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This is SO important and so many people miss it. I almost missed my first certification and would have lost two weeks of benefits. File weekly no matter what.

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my sister got fired last year and they called it gross misconduct but she still applied and got benefits. the employer said she violated a dress code policy lol. edd basically laughed at that

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Dress code violations are a classic example of something employers call 'misconduct' that doesn't come close to meeting California's legal standard. California EDD looks for willful, substantial disregard of the employer's interests — a dress code issue almost never qualifies unless there are extreme circumstances and documented repeated violations.

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yeah exactly, edd told her it didnt rise to the level of misconduct. took maybe 4 weeks in adjudication but she got approved

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can i ask kind of a related question — what if you were fired during a probationary period? does that make it harder to qualify? i started a job in january and got let go after 6 weeks, they said i 'wasnt meeting expectations during probation

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Probationary period terminations are actually a really common California EDD question. The short answer is: the same misconduct standard applies regardless of whether you were in probation or not. 'Not meeting expectations during probation' is essentially the same as performance-based termination — it generally doesn't constitute disqualifying misconduct under California unemployment law. You would still need to meet the base period earnings requirements to be eligible (you typically need at least $1,300 in your highest-earning quarter, or at least $900 in your highest quarter with total base period wages of 1.25x that amount), so the 6 weeks of earnings factor in. But the reason for termination itself shouldn't automatically disqualify you.

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ok thanks that makes me feel better. i was basically told i wouldnt qualify at all because i was on probation. maybe ill file anyway

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Definitely file. The worst case is you get a determination and appeal if needed. But 'fired during probation' is NOT a disqualification in itself under California EDD rules.

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I got burned by NOT filing when I was fired because I assumed I wouldn't qualify. By the time I realized I probably did qualify it had been like 8 weeks and I'd missed a ton of benefit weeks I couldn't get back. Please don't make my mistake — just file and let California EDD decide.

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This is exactly the situation I was about to put myself in. Filing today.

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Good! Also take screenshots of your submission confirmation and write down your claim number. You'll need to reference it for everything going forward.

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For anyone who gets stuck trying to reach California EDD to ask questions about a termination claim or to check on their adjudication status — I mentioned Claimyr earlier but want to say again that it genuinely made a huge difference for me. The regular EDD phone line has brutal wait times and often disconnects before you get to anyone. Claimyr (claimyr.com) routes you through to an actual agent. The video demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 explains how the process works. When you're stressed about a termination claim and need real answers fast, being able to actually speak to someone is worth a lot.

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Adding this to my list. I've already tried the regular EDD number twice with no luck.

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yeah the regular edd phone line is basically impossible right now. anything that actually gets you through to a human is valuable when you have a complex claim situation

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Something nobody has mentioned — your former employer's unemployment insurance tax rate can actually increase if you successfully receive benefits after being fired. Some employers know this and will contest claims just to keep their UI tax rate down, even with weak cases. This means for some employers — especially smaller ones — they WILL respond to California EDD and may exaggerate or embellish what happened. Just be prepared that your employer may tell a different story than what you experienced and make sure your written account to EDD is detailed and factual so EDD has your full side.

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Yes, this is accurate. The experience-rating system does create an incentive for some employers to contest UI claims. For smaller businesses particularly, a successful UI claim can meaningfully affect their quarterly unemployment tax contributions. This is why your written account to EDD needs to be clear and thorough.

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I hadn't thought about this at all. I'll make sure to write out everything in as much detail as I can when I file.

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good to know. i always wondered why some employers seem to fight so hard on claims that seem pretty obviously legitimate

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RANT but also relevant — I was fired from my job of 6 years and california edd denied me initially claiming misconduct. the 'misconduct' was that i called in sick on a day my manager wanted me to come in even though i had remaining PTO and a doctor's note. CALLING IN SICK WITH A DOCTOR'S NOTE IS NOT MISCONDUCT. Appealed to CUIAB, won my hearing, got my benefits retroactively. The point is even if you get denied don't just accept it. appeals are free and the standard at the hearing level gives you a real chance to make your case in front of an actual human.

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This is a really important example. Using legally protected sick time with a doctor's note is pretty clearly not misconduct under California law, and the appeals board knows this. The initial determination process is sometimes just not thorough enough. The CUIAB hearing is a much more robust process where you can actually present evidence and testimony.

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exactly. and at the CUIAB hearing my employer didn't even bother to show up, which the judge noted. all my documentation was there, they had nothing. instant win.

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This gives me a lot of confidence about the process overall. Even if something goes wrong initially there's a path to fight it.

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just wanted to say this thread is really helpful. been searching for like an hour trying to understand if being fired means automatic denial and this is the clearest explanation ive found anywhere

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The 'fired = no unemployment' misconception is really widespread and unfortunately stops a lot of people from filing who would actually qualify. Glad this thread is helping!

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yeah i came here assuming the answer was no and now i'm going to go file. thank you everyone

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One last practical note — make sure you have the following ready when you file your California EDD claim: - Your Social Security Number - Last employer's name, address, and phone number - Your last date of work - Your reason for separation (be specific) - Employment history for the last 18 months (all employers) - Your bank account info if you want direct deposit (otherwise they'll mail a Bank of America EDD debit card) The UI Online system at edd.ca.gov is generally pretty straightforward. Set aside about 30-45 minutes for the initial application. After filing you'll get a confirmation number — write it down or screenshot it.

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This is a great practical list. I'm going to sit down and file this afternoon. I'll report back on how it goes.

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Good luck! And remember to set a calendar reminder for your weekly certification dates so you don't miss them. You can certify every two weeks through UI Online or by calling 1-866-333-4606.

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also if you don't have a personal email already set up separate from your work email now is the time to do that before filing. all your EDD correspondence will go to whatever email you register with

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OP quick question — did you sign anything when they let you go? like a separation agreement or severance offer? asking because that can sometimes affect your unemployment eligibility timing

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Good question to raise. Signing a general release as part of a severance agreement typically does NOT affect your California EDD unemployment eligibility — the two systems are separate. However, if a severance agreement includes continued pay for a period of time (sometimes called 'salary continuation' rather than a lump sum), that income could affect the timing of when your UI benefits begin. California EDD treats severance differently based on how it's structured. If this applies to OP's situation, it's worth a call to California EDD to clarify.

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They offered some kind of small severance but I haven't signed anything yet. I'll make sure to ask about how that affects my UI claim timing before I sign.

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smart, get that info from edd first before signing anything. you have rights on both sides and you don't want to accidentally complicate your ui claim

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OP — circling back since you said you're filing today. A few things that can slow down or complicate a termination-based California EDD claim that are worth knowing upfront: 1. If your employer contests your claim, adjudication almost certainly gets triggered 2. Adjudication interviews with California EDD — answer fully and calmly, stick to factual specifics 3. If you're still waiting after 6-8 weeks with no movement, contact California EDD directly — sometimes claims get stuck and a call can shake things loose 4. Document every contact with EDD: dates, times, who you spoke to, what they said 5. Your Notice of Determination will tell you exactly why you were approved or denied and what to do next If you need to actually reach someone at California EDD by phone and can't get through on your own, Claimyr (claimyr.com) is a legitimate option that a few people in this thread have vouched for. Watch their demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 to see how it works — it's specifically designed for getting through EDD's phone system.

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Thank you — this is an amazing thread. I came here totally lost and I feel like I actually understand the process now. Filing this afternoon.

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You've got this. Come back and let us know how the adjudication goes. A lot of people in your situation do end up getting approved.

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rooting for you OP. file today, certify every two weeks, answer that phone call from edd when it comes, and you'll be in good shape

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