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Wow, this is such a helpful thread! I'm a substitute teacher too and just got denied for reasonable assurance, but I also work part-time at a private daycare center. After reading all this, I'm wondering if I should appeal or wait to see if they do a second review automatically? @Yara Haddad - did you have to do anything specific to trigger that second review, or did it just happen on its own? I'm hesitant to spend money on services like Claimyr if there's a chance EDD will review it themselves.
@Mason Lopez I didn t'do anything to trigger the second review - it just happened automatically! I think what happens is they have specialists who review certain types of denials, especially for school employees. Since you work at a private daycare, you re'probably in a similar situation to mine. I d'give it a few weeks to see if they do the automatic review before spending money on appeal services. But definitely keep checking your account and don t'ignore any certification notices if they start coming. The key thing is that private sector work like (your daycare job isn) t'subject to reasonable assurance rules, so you might qualify based on those earnings alone.
This is such valuable information for substitute teachers! I'm in a similar boat - got denied for reasonable assurance but also work evenings at a retail job. Based on what everyone's sharing here, it sounds like having ANY non-educational employment during your base period can potentially override the reasonable assurance denial. @Yara Haddad - I'm curious, did they send you any kind of notice explaining the reversal, or did the money just appear with no explanation? I want to know what to watch for in my own case. Also wondering if the benefit calculation was significantly different when based on your tutoring income versus what it would have been with substitute teaching wages?
I've decided to submit my resignation tomorrow, effective two weeks from now. I'm going to clearly state in my letter that I'm resigning due to the elimination of my current position and the incompatibility of the new role's hours with my family care responsibilities. I'll apply for EDD benefits immediately after my last day. Thank you all so much for the guidance and support through this stressful situation.
Smart approach. Make sure your resignation letter is clear, professional, and specifically mentions that you're leaving because your position was eliminated and the new role conflicts with your family obligations. Keep a copy of this letter for your records. When you file your claim, use the exact same reasoning. Consistency between what you tell your employer and what you tell EDD is important. Be prepared for a phone interview about 1-2 weeks after filing your claim. Good luck!
This sounds like a really strong case for unemployment benefits! The fact that your employer is essentially eliminating your position and forcing you into a completely different role with incompatible hours should definitely qualify as "good cause" to quit. I went through something similar when my company restructured and moved me from part-time administrative work to full-time sales. Like you, the new schedule didn't work with my family obligations. EDD approved my claim because I could show that the job fundamentally changed and staying wasn't feasible. Make sure to emphasize in your application that this wasn't just a preference - the new hours make it impossible for you to fulfill your childcare responsibilities. Document everything: the original job description, the new requirements, your attempts to negotiate, and especially that HR communication acknowledging your need to resign. You've got solid documentation and valid reasons. Don't let the initial stress discourage you from applying!
Thank you for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through something so similar. I'm definitely feeling more confident about applying now. One quick question - did you mention the childcare responsibilities prominently in your initial application, or did that come up more during the phone interview? I want to make sure I frame everything correctly from the start.
I'm really hoping this works out for you! I've been following this thread because I'm in a similar situation with penalty weeks, though not as severe as yours. One thing I wanted to add that might help others reading this - when you're putting together your hardship documentation, make sure to include a timeline showing how your financial situation deteriorated specifically because of the penalty weeks. For example, show your account balance before the penalty period started versus now, and connect the dots between losing those unemployment payments and your current crisis. The Appeals Board needs to see that the penalty weeks are the direct cause of your extreme hardship, not just general financial struggles you might have had anyway. Also, if you have any medical conditions or disabilities that make job searching more difficult, document those too. Even if it's just anxiety or depression from the stress of potential eviction, a letter from a doctor can strengthen your case. Really rooting for you - please keep us updated on the outcome!
This is such great advice about showing the direct connection between penalty weeks and financial hardship! I wish I had thought to include that timeline approach in my packet. The documentation I sent focused more on my current desperate situation but didn't clearly show how it was specifically caused by losing those unemployment payments. If my initial request gets denied, I might try appealing again with this more detailed timeline approach. It makes total sense that they'd want to see the penalty weeks are the actual cause rather than just coincidental timing with other financial problems. Thank you for thinking of others who might be in similar situations - this thread has become like a mini guide for penalty week hardship appeals!
Just wanted to jump in here as someone who works in social services - while you're waiting for the EDD hardship decision, definitely explore other emergency assistance options! Many counties have emergency rental assistance programs that can help prevent eviction while you're dealing with unemployment issues. In California, you can also apply for CalFresh food benefits and potentially cash aid through CalWORKs if you qualify. These programs can help free up what little money you do have for rent. The application process for these is much faster than EDD appeals - usually 1-2 weeks. Also check if your county has a "homelessness prevention" program. Los Angeles, San Francisco, and several other counties have specific funds to help people avoid eviction when they're between jobs. Some of these programs work directly with EDD cases. Don't forget about utility assistance programs too - if you can get help with electric/gas bills, that's more money you can put toward rent. Most utility companies have hardship programs, and organizations like The Salvation Army often help with utility bills in emergencies. The key is to apply for everything simultaneously rather than waiting. Even if your EDD hardship appeal gets approved, it might not be in time to prevent eviction. Having multiple safety nets gives you the best chance of getting through this tough period.
To all those having trouble reaching a human at California Unemployment. I just ran across this video that gave me a shortcut to reach a human. Hope it helps! https://youtu.be/Ize0EkN4HDI
For the phone interview, they'll typically call you at the number on file during the scheduled time. Make sure to keep that number updated and available. From what I've seen in this community, some reps are scheduling interviews unnecessarily for PUA claims - you might want to call back and ask to speak with a Tier 2 specialist who can clarify if an interview is actually required for your situation. Don't let one rude rep discourage you from getting the help you deserve!
NeonNomad
After you file your initial claim, you'll start receiving certification forms every two weeks. Be 100% honest when reporting your job search activities and any income. Being suspended for not passing an exam is different from being fired for misconduct, which works in your favor. But they'll want to see that you're making a genuine effort to resolve your employment situation - either by passing the exam or finding suitable work elsewhere. Also, start documenting everything now. Keep emails from your employer about the suspension, exam registration receipts, study materials you've purchased, etc. Having this documentation ready for your eligibility interview will help tremendously.
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Giovanni Ricci
•Thank you - I've started a folder with all my documentation already. I have the email from my supervisor about the suspension and my exam attempts. I've been applying to at least 3 jobs every day too, so I'll keep detailed records of all of that.
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Nia Thompson
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now as a medical assistant - failed my certification renewal exam twice and my clinic suspended me until I pass. What I learned from talking to EDD is that the key factor is whether your employer considers this a "temporary suspension" vs "termination for cause." Since you're still technically employed and they're willing to take you back once you pass, that's actually good for your case. Make sure when you apply that you emphasize you're actively job searching AND working toward resolving the certification issue. One thing that helped my case was getting a letter from my employer stating that this is a temporary suspension pending certification, not a firing. Maybe ask your supervisor if they can provide something like that? It shows EDD that you have a clear path back to work. Also, have you looked into any free or low-cost exam prep resources? Some community colleges offer certification prep courses that might help you finally pass on the next attempt.
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