
California Unemployment
CommunityGovernment Services


Ask the community...
So I shut down my LLC about six weeks ago. The business had been struggling since early this year and I finally had to close the doors in March. I was the sole owner and also paid myself a W-2 salary through the business - my accountant set it up that way from the beginning. Now that everything is closed and I have zero income coming in, I'm wondering if I can actually file for California EDD unemployment benefits or if being a business owner automatically disqualifies me. I've heard conflicting things from people. My neighbor said business owners can never get unemployment. But my accountant mentioned something about how since I paid into SDI and UI taxes through my own payroll, I might actually have a legitimate claim. I don't want to waste time filing if I'm just going to get denied immediately. Has anyone else been through this situation? Does California EDD even consider claims from people who owned their own company but paid themselves as a W-2 employee? I have all my payroll records and tax filings if they matter. Just really stressed about finances right now and trying to figure out every option available to me.
So I just wrapped up my third season working at a ski resort up in the Sierra Nevada and for the first time I'm actually thinking about filing for unemployment through California EDD instead of just burning through my savings until spring work picks up. I've heard conflicting things from coworkers - some say seasonal workers can't get UI benefits at all, others say they can but it's complicated. I worked from mid-November through late March, full time the whole season, earned decent wages, paid into the system every paycheck. Does any of this actually qualify me? I'm not sure if EDD treats seasonal work differently during the off-season or if I'd just get denied automatically. Has anyone navigated this as a seasonal worker before? I don't want to waste time filing if I'm just going to get hit with a disqualification notice.
Update for anyone following - I finally filed after reading this thread and a bunch of similar discussions. Used UI Online, took about 25 minutes to complete the application, and it was much less confusing than I expected. Claim status currently shows as pending. Will update when I hear something.
The part about 'separation reason' had me second-guessing myself but I just said 'lack of work/end of season' and it seemed fine. The base period wage section was auto-populated which was helpful.
this thread is so helpful, bookmarking it. i've been doing seasonal harvest work for 8 years and always just didn't file because i assumed i didn't qualify. going to actually try this year
So I've been working part time at a retail job for the past several months, about 20 hours a week, and my hours just got cut down to practically nothing - maybe 6-8 hours some weeks, and zero other weeks. I always thought unemployment was only for people who lost their jobs completely but my coworker mentioned I might still qualify even though I'm technically still employed. Is that actually true? Can you get California EDD unemployment benefits if you're still working part time? I'm so confused about how this works and whether it's even worth applying. My earnings are barely covering my bills as it is and I really need to figure out if I have any options here.
just finished filing my initial claim for partial unemployment after reading this whole thread - took about 45 minutes online. the edd.ca.gov UI Online system is actually not terrible. now waiting for my determination letter. thank you everyone in this thread for the info!!
real talk - i work about 15 hours a week at a cafe and my manager keeps 'forgetting' to put me on the schedule some weeks. can i file for unemployment for those zero-hour weeks even though I'm still technically an employee there?
they definitely aren't offering me the hours, I just don't appear on the schedule. should I document this somehow?
I'm really frustrated and could use some advice. I've been working as a substitute teacher for East Bay Unified for the 2024-2025 school year. When summer break started, I filed for unemployment since I won't have work until fall. Just got denied because EDD says I have 'reasonable assurance' of returning to work after the break. The letter mentioned something about Education Code 1253.3. But here's the thing - as a sub, I have ZERO guarantee of any work. Some weeks during the year I barely got called at all. The district just sent a general email asking if we want to remain on the sub list for next year. That's not a job guarantee! Has any other substitute teacher successfully appealed this kind of denial? I've got bills to pay and was counting on UI to help get through summer. Any tips on what to include in my appeal letter?
I'm dealing with something similar but as a substitute aide, not teacher. Got the same "reasonable assurance" denial even though I'm purely on-call with zero guaranteed hours. Reading through everyone's advice here - especially about the P-B-218 precedent case and highlighting the conditional language in district communications - this is exactly what I needed to see! One question for those who've been through the appeal process: how detailed should I get about my irregular work pattern? I have pay stubs showing I worked 0 hours some weeks, 8 hours others, up to 32 hours occasionally. Should I create a spreadsheet or chart showing this inconsistency, or is just submitting the pay stubs enough evidence? Also super frustrated with the EDD phone system. Been trying to get through for a week with no luck. Definitely going straight to the formal appeal route based on what everyone's shared here.
https://proteacher.net/discussions/threads/reasonable-assurance-standard-for-substitute-teachers-is-legal-false-equivalency.694916/ Every Substitute Teacher needs to download copy of this table! Include with your claim. It's complete b s that they say Substitutes have "reasonable assurance" of ANYTHING. In talking to CA EDD, they said this law goes back to like the 1940's (FUTA). If no one will stand up for substitute teachers, substitute teachers have to stand up for themselves. https://www.reddit.com/r/SubstituteTeachers/comments/1hf3ovr/take_the_reasonable_assurance_quiz_something_to/
@AllThings Books Super helpful. Thank you.
Liam Sullivan
slightly off topic but does anyone know if business owners in California can claim disability (SDI) instead of or in addition to unemployment? asking because I have a health situation that developed right around when my business closed and I'm not sure which benefit is more appropriate for my situation
0 coins
Liam Sullivan
Thank you - I didn't realize they were completely separate programs. My payroll definitely withheld SDI taxes so that sounds promising. I'll look into both and figure out which fits my situation better.
0 coins
Ethan Clark
also worth noting SDI pays up to 60-70% of your wages vs UI which maxes at $450/week. if your W2 wages were significant SDI might actually pay more
0 coins
Amara Okafor
For anyone still uncertain: the tl;dr of this whole thread is basically (1) W-2 wages from your own business = potential UI eligibility, (2) pure self-employment income = no regular UI, (3) document your business closure thoroughly, (4) be scrupulously honest on your weekly certifications especially about job search, (5) read every piece of mail from EDD immediately and respond by the deadlines. Bookmark this thread, there's genuinely good information here.
0 coins
Zara Mirza
Good luck! Come back and update us. These success stories help other people going through the same situation know it's possible.
0 coins
NebulaNinja
seriously good luck. the system is confusing and frustrating but people do get approved from these kinds of claims. worth fighting for what you paid into
0 coins